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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 16 2013 16:07 GMT
#201
/in
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 17 2013 13:15 GMT
#234
On September 17 2013 18:42 marvellosity wrote:
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On September 17 2013 18:38 Koshi wrote:
If we all put some effort in I think we can make this a 500 page game.


That sounds like the worst thing ever. I'm ever so slowly moving into the less is more camp.

50 page filter incoming
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 17 2013 15:00 GMT
#250
On September 17 2013 23:58 yamato77 wrote:
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On September 17 2013 23:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
/policy lynch half of town


/in

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On September 17 2013 23:36 Clarity_nl wrote:
On September 17 2013 22:52 marvellosity wrote:
Voice mafia is fun, but it's very shallow compared to forum mafia.


True, but also has to do with everyone being fairly inexperienced in voice mafia. People are baffled by claims and stuff.
Obviously voice mafia is shallow in comparison but that's because of the time put in but I think it has plenty of room to grow.


Marv also happened upon some of the worst games that were played since we started all this. Doesn't get to see me win at LYLO all the time, hue

What changed from the previous the games? Mostly the same players right? Unless........
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 17 2013 15:03 GMT
#256
On September 18 2013 00:01 Clarity_nl wrote:
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On September 18 2013 00:00 iamperfection wrote:
On September 17 2013 23:58 yamato77 wrote:
On September 17 2013 23:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
/policy lynch half of town


/in

On September 17 2013 23:36 Clarity_nl wrote:
On September 17 2013 22:52 marvellosity wrote:
Voice mafia is fun, but it's very shallow compared to forum mafia.


True, but also has to do with everyone being fairly inexperienced in voice mafia. People are baffled by claims and stuff.
Obviously voice mafia is shallow in comparison but that's because of the time put in but I think it has plenty of room to grow.


Marv also happened upon some of the worst games that were played since we started all this. Doesn't get to see me win at LYLO all the time, hue

What changed from the previous the games? Mostly the same players right? Unless........


People were sleepy or waking up or something, not sure. But basically the first 2-3 games were like "ermm... sooo. I guess this person might be scum" and town would go "yeah I guess you have a point" and then someone would get lynched.
Only with more talking over eachother loudly.

can we just blame marv instead?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 17 2013 15:07 GMT
#260
oh by the way trying new style less posting etc etc
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 17 2013 15:14 GMT
#264
On September 18 2013 00:12 marvellosity wrote:
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On September 18 2013 00:07 iamperfection wrote:
oh by the way trying new style less posting etc etc


why as an IC would you change your posting style

preemptive mafia excuses imoimo

i will not even dignify this ludicrous accusation with a response.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 17 2013 21:19 GMT
#293
Switch me to replacement I will be busy until after the weekend I'm sure you will need some
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 18 2013 13:42 GMT
#327
see you guys spammed so much he missed my /out and /in as replacement
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 24 2013 03:19 GMT
#2722
im staying home sick tomorrow ill read it all and save you all
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 24 2013 20:46 GMT
#2958
On September 25 2013 05:41 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
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On September 25 2013 05:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 24 2013 18:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Since when has yamato been confirmed town?

Also, what do you guys think of Cheesecake lately? He's been under the radar for a while, only showed up once for night 1 to sheep yamato.

So now you think yamato is confirmed town? What made you chance your mind?


No I don't. I'm questioning his last post:

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On September 24 2013 12:22 yamato77 wrote:
I'm confirmed town, so what I say actually goes today.

We lynch Sentinel.


you know he is pretty much confirmed town right?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 24 2013 20:48 GMT
#2962
On September 25 2013 05:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On September 25 2013 05:46 iamperfection wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:41 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 24 2013 18:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Since when has yamato been confirmed town?

Also, what do you guys think of Cheesecake lately? He's been under the radar for a while, only showed up once for night 1 to sheep yamato.

So now you think yamato is confirmed town? What made you chance your mind?


No I don't. I'm questioning his last post:

On September 24 2013 12:22 yamato77 wrote:
I'm confirmed town, so what I say actually goes today.

We lynch Sentinel.


you know he is pretty much confirmed town right?

This is false. No one is confirmed town except for the dead. We have claims. Whether you believe the claims or not is your own thing, but no one in the game left alive is confirmed town.

do you have reason to not believe him? No you dont
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 24 2013 20:53 GMT
#2967
On September 25 2013 05:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
The fact that there are only 3 kills weighs on my mind. The fact that I was suspicious of Coag, and that he's claimed one of the three kills last night. The fact that Yamato hasn't done shit since the day post except try and leverage his position.

Yes, iamp, I do have reason not to believe him. Fucking ass.

so you think its more likely that two scum made fake claims then it being the far simpler explanation that they are simply town.

Or does it upset you that we may have confirmed townies running around?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 24 2013 21:34 GMT
#3026
On September 25 2013 06:23 FirmTofu wrote:
I was just reading Umasi's filter and I'm having a bit of trouble following his thought process.
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On September 23 2013 03:02 Umasi wrote:
On September 22 2013 17:19 Mocsta wrote:
On September 22 2013 16:39 Umasi wrote:
feel free to ask questions then


OK. I dont follow the progression here.


On September 22 2013 16:25 Umasi wrote:
I think ray is probably town


On September 22 2013 16:26 Umasi wrote:
wait after reading his post (didn't see it when I posted) he's even more probably town


Referring to post
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=54#1073

Im more concerned about the first post. Why feel the need to give a free town read on someone that wasn't being discussed at the time.


Because I think he's town. Chairmans just pretty good lynchbait
he certainly was last game, and his play so far has evoked an identical feel.

on another note, find it annoying how you're like 'umasi hasn't talked enough about the important things in the thread' and then ask me about two one liners.
kinda wacky, but I have a town read on you.

idk about FT, slightly scummy for me, because of how contrived his pressure on DP felt for a silly reason
On September 22 2013 23:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I think despite Umasi's allegations to the contrary, he's been contributing nothing of value. After LoneMeow leaves he decides that since he can't get anymore fuel, he'll unvote. And then really all he talks about is people who aren't scummy looking.

I'm switching from Stutters to him because at least with Umasi, if he does end up flipping red then his filter becomes more useful than Stutters who just pushed kush all day. Since apparently pressuring him isn't working and he's lurking harder than ever. We could vig stutters though.

I don't like yamato's big post either. He calls DP mafia, rayn scummy, and then quotes Ray's fluffpost and says HE'S THE SCUM. And he's really got nothing else to show, especially afterwards he doesn't rationalize anything. I'm leaning red on him. Umasi seems more red to me but yamato has more to show for further analysis if he flips red.

But I'll keep my vote on Umasi for now.

##Unvote
##Vote: Umasi


Otherwise, out of the filter dives I want to say something about WoS but I can't quite put my finger on it. Perhaps I'll say something about him and also Koshi when I get back.

thank god your thoughts on me basically are 'if he's red, man we have some things to go on' and 'he hasn't talked about important things!'
Lynching for information is something I'm a firm disbeliever of, I think it's frequently a scum tool
fwiw, I told you guys I'd respond to questions you had for me (and the only one I've seen is mocsta's)
mocsta kinda grouped us together as non-contributing-flying-under-the-radar dudes iirc, so you suddenly voting me with THAT shit reasoning is why I'm voting you, because it feels you're like 'quick target the other dude who's in a similar position to me'


also there's a vote thread, use it

##vote sentinel

We see an OMGUS vote on Sentinel. Not really alignment indicative because town are guilty of this just like mafia are.

Then he gets pressured by rayn about his vote and slowly backs off, explaining that his vote was simply the best of the options available to him.
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On September 23 2013 04:10 Umasi wrote:
annoying thing is I don't feel that strongly about the sentinel lynch, just stronger than other lynches that have been tossed around.
kinda want to see what people think though

Note how the confidence in his reads has drastically diminished over the course of these two posts.

Then, near lynch, we have these kinds of posts.
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On September 23 2013 10:57 Umasi wrote:
sentinel vote for justice!
do it do it do it

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On September 23 2013 10:59 Umasi wrote:
no I mean people should vote sentinel for justice :|

He doesn't take a stance on the two candidates that are most likely to be lynched, as if he knows both are town and doesn't want to risk changing his vote and being called scum for it. He also is now suddenly way more confident that Sentinel is scum, despite being dissuaded by rayn at one point in the thread.

:/ I don't like Umasi at all.

this is actually a very good point.

He also say he is firm believer in not lynching for information but that firmness apparently disappears with rayn
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 24 2013 21:35 GMT
#3030
On September 25 2013 06:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On September 25 2013 06:32 FirmTofu wrote:
On September 25 2013 06:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Marv direct me. I'm too busy with work to reread the whole thread right now, but I can filter and give thoughts. Help me help you find scum.

Filter me please. I am one of the leading candidates for the lynch today so my filter would be a worthwhile investment.

I filtered you earlier and didn't like what I read. Feel free to filter me to get an idea of why.

what do you think of tofus point he made on umasi?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 24 2013 21:37 GMT
#3036
On September 25 2013 06:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Can anyone tell me who iamp replaced without telling me to RTFT?

onegu

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 24 2013 21:40 GMT
#3039
On September 25 2013 06:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, yeah you're gonna have to do something then iamp. You being here interacting with the thread without giving any kind of thougths on the gamestate is scummy as hell. It feels more like you're trying to manipulate town sentiment rather than trying to gather information.

im actually working on my analyze every player in the game post but then i f5 the thread and saw something stupid and i had to comment and have been distracted ever since
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 24 2013 21:41 GMT
#3040
also i will do what i want
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 25 2013 00:08 GMT
#3145
is cephiro in the game or did he get replaced?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 25 2013 00:11 GMT
#3150
On September 25 2013 09:09 Mocsta wrote:
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On September 25 2013 09:08 iamperfection wrote:
is cephiro in the game or did he get replaced?

He's here. As is the Mattchew case.

Gigogogo!

as in you want a peek on my notes i guess i can oblige

27: Mattchew-scum Terrible response to the pressure that has come to him. Seems like he has decided to use this cycle to just calling marv scum without putting any effort in to convince people why or to dow ell anything really. Seems to have resigned to his fate http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=149#2977 and dosnt want to try to convince anyone of anything. The spotlight is on him and he has crumbuled. mocs case has merit i specfically like his points about his approach to stutters. dont really care for the voice mafia junk but mattchew's actions since the case make me strongly believe he is scum
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 25 2013 00:45 GMT
#3166
On September 25 2013 09:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
*glare*

Wasn't Frued Australian?

Austrian
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