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RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
July 28 2013 06:59 GMT
#189
/in
RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
July 30 2013 22:33 GMT
#245
I spend my day erasing bugs in code...time to do the same thing at night! Mwahaha
RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
July 31 2013 21:52 GMT
#427
On August 01 2013 04:09 Umasi wrote:
oh this is a good moment to mention, I totally forgot early game
guys
no lynching is retarded, the only weapon we have is our vote t.t
so voting to no lynch is squandering your vote, and I'll happily switch votes to prevent a no lynch

Why? Doesn't it make sense to try to get a solid read first? Otherwise odds are we are just killing off our own?
RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
August 01 2013 01:14 GMT
#472
Seems really suspicious to me that DeusX keeps trying to nail squishy. Umasi and Alak, why did you withdraw your votes for him? Did I miss something earlier in the thread?
RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
August 01 2013 01:17 GMT
#473
On August 01 2013 09:44 Nightcat99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 09:31 reps)squishy wrote:
infii did not want to lynch anyone night 1 and he is "neutral." And the neutrality seems to me he does not want to be a lurker but he does not want to draw attention to himself so I will.


RDaneelOlivaw and sc_a.M also do not want to lynch someone day one, what is the reason that you single infil out?

I would also like to talk about lynch every day, the reason we lynch every day is because this is the only method we have to force everyone to take a stand, and by taking this stand and backing them up with your words is the only way we can get reads to find the scum.

If we dont lynch anyone day one , then some one is going to die night one and the only information we will get, is well scum kills people.

I dont think rep is a scum because i know that scum has a private forum with scum friends and a scum coach... if he is scum, someone would have stopped him by now.....

However, i am watching infil RDaneelOlivaw and sc_a.M, i feel that atleast one of them or even two of them can be scummy, there is no reason for the scum team to agree to all voice their opinion on a no lynch but they would definitely jump onto that opportunity.


Ah, thanks for clarifying
RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
August 01 2013 01:27 GMT
#479
I take back what I said earlier about Deus...just found that awesome filter tool. Reps does look shady as hell...he has an excuse for everything, and that whole newbie act at the beginning was pretty fishy...I agree with Deus anyway at this point. At some point we're going to have to deal with him anyway, right now he is just muddying the waters.
RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
August 01 2013 01:47 GMT
#484
On August 01 2013 10:38 Alakaslam wrote:
Humph. Well if reps flips red I will be cool. If he flips green, know this: I have stated earlier that my own train of thought looked just like reps if not worse first game. It was because I 100% wanted to survive, rather than hunt scum- because I was tracker, and felt that tracking night actions would make me better prepared to successfully scumhunt.

See this; it hasn't happened yet, but I already feel that if reps flips green holy flare and deus x machina look scummier. Why?

Simple. Reps has given inclination toward being an ideal scum mislynch target.

That being said he hasn't helped things one bit. But I still fosftp for future reference, and yet here is my vote as I agree, we need to lynch.

I am fully aware that I will look scummy right with them if he flips town, because I'll look all knowing and distancing myself from mislynch. I am aware of this fact and still post it. So shouldn't affect your votes!

votes reps

I disagree. Deus and Holy really stuck themselves out there against him, seems like a foolish play if they are mafia. No reason for them to throw themselves at him so persistently if they are mafia, especially with this much time left in the vote.
RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
August 01 2013 01:57 GMT
#487
On August 01 2013 10:54 Umasi wrote:
Rdaneel, if he flips scum none of this matters
but if reps flips town, and we're all just like "well they went balls out to get him lynched so they can't be scum" and they're ACTUALLY SCUM, what did they lose?
You don't get towncred for pushing a mislynch on a townie.
Likewise though, they aren't condemned because of it. You need more than a single key point to say "this guy IS scum because of THIS action" or "this guy IS town because of THIS action". Look at their motivations for doing something, that's equally important as what actually occurs.

True, good point.
RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
August 01 2013 02:03 GMT
#489
if somebody dies do we find out their role beyond red/green?
RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
August 01 2013 02:06 GMT
#492
ah. well then I voted. ##reps
RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
August 01 2013 02:07 GMT
#494
##VOTE reps, in above post
RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
August 01 2013 22:42 GMT
#641
On August 02 2013 06:21 Umasi wrote:
On another note, scam and daneel, you should start posting, pretty much self explanatory WHY you should start posting.

Just in response to this, I work 800-500 every day, I'm not going to be posting between midnight and 530 pm. I'm about to go back through the thread, be back soon....
RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
August 01 2013 23:19 GMT
#646
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 31 2013 10:24 Nightcat99 wrote:
Hello everyone i am the newbie nightcat reporting in for duty.


+ Show Spoiler +

On July 31 2013 14:26 Nightcat99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 10:07 reps)squishy wrote:
I totally took this as a BroodWar Terran QQ.

On topic: I am super new to mafia (first ever game) and I think coming up with something to say is super hard. I hope this is just a beginning thing. Trying not to be a hated lurker is kind-of hard.

+I almost edited one of my posts good thing I read the rules xD.


I have a little problem with this post, i understand the fact that new player wants to tell other they are new, but this was one of the method i use last game to make myself look newer then you actually are.

He didnt edit his post, he found out he cant edit his post at the middle of him posting and decided to tell us about it. There is just something fishy about that.


Not necessarily the most to go on, but these two posts are a bit strangely contradictory. Really seems like there was an early game play to distract attention by getting everyone focused on squishy. I think one of the biggest things to do is go back and look at the instigators of the suspicscion on him.

With that in mind, Gotard's early vote still strikes me as suspicious. It too looks like another attempt to kind of stir up the pot unnecessarily...he did try to explain it but I'm just not satisified.

I have no clue what game alaksam is playing. That being said, he's gone so out of his way to demonstrate pro-towniness its a little strange...he was really working to position himself as in the clear if reps flipped green, which may just be good play but deserves to be remembered

Usami's last minute switch was stupid as either mafia or townie...I don't really get a good read off of it

RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
August 01 2013 23:37 GMT
#653
Also, I think we need to be careful in how we deal with scam...we really should have taken him out instead of reps. Since we misfired on reps, if we go after scam and he is also a townie we are in some pretty hot water, down 4 townies with little to show. I think its important for us to be pressing more active players, then we can deal with him later if we can get on top of the game
RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
August 01 2013 23:48 GMT
#657
On August 02 2013 08:36 StiMaDDict wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 08:19 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 31 2013 10:24 Nightcat99 wrote:
Hello everyone i am the newbie nightcat reporting in for duty.


+ Show Spoiler +

On July 31 2013 14:26 Nightcat99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 10:07 reps)squishy wrote:
I totally took this as a BroodWar Terran QQ.

On topic: I am super new to mafia (first ever game) and I think coming up with something to say is super hard. I hope this is just a beginning thing. Trying not to be a hated lurker is kind-of hard.

+I almost edited one of my posts good thing I read the rules xD.


I have a little problem with this post, i understand the fact that new player wants to tell other they are new, but this was one of the method i use last game to make myself look newer then you actually are.

He didnt edit his post, he found out he cant edit his post at the middle of him posting and decided to tell us about it. There is just something fishy about that.


Not necessarily the most to go on, but these two posts are a bit strangely contradictory. Really seems like there was an early game play to distract attention by getting everyone focused on squishy. I think one of the biggest things to do is go back and look at the instigators of the suspicscion on him.

With that in mind, Gotard's early vote still strikes me as suspicious. It too looks like another attempt to kind of stir up the pot unnecessarily...he did try to explain it but I'm just not satisified.

I have no clue what game alaksam is playing. That being said, he's gone so out of his way to demonstrate pro-towniness its a little strange...he was really working to position himself as in the clear if reps flipped green, which may just be good play but deserves to be remembered

Usami's last minute switch was stupid as either mafia or townie...I don't really get a good read off of it


Noncommittal much? Captatin obvious much?
So who exactly do you think is the scum?

I think Gotard is scum.
I think Deus is scum because of his early aggression to try to make
I think alaks is on the fence, not sure what to think of him yet.

I'd like to hear you elaborate on your thoughts a bit. We haven't seen a ton of substance from you yet (oh yes I'm totally a hypocrite ) You've had a lot of "I'll elaborate later posts", so flesh out your thoughts
RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
August 01 2013 23:53 GMT
#659
On August 02 2013 08:42 Umasi wrote:
that's not thought through too well.
You, daneel, are posting (I think) because we pressured you to post, so there's no reason to not pressure scam for not posting.

because we want him to post.
If you ignore a lurker, and don't vote a lurker, why on earth would they not keep on lurking? You'd have to hope it was just a scum not talking.
But what if it's just another lazy town?

I'm posting because I got home from work again :p. See my post earlier :p I agree we should pressure him a bit, but I don't think its a good idea to be spending our second lynch on him. Someone said earlier in the thread (you I think)? That you can't get a good read either way on the player if they don't post. So we'd be basically taking a complete shot in the dark. If we are wrong, I think we are in pretty serious trouble (maybe I'm wrong, haven't played this before...) with 3 mafia left, and what, 4 townies and one of the neutrals? I think we would be better off trying to identify more likely mafia that we have reasons for suspecting and trying to nail them down. If we make a strong lynch push for scam what are we going to learn

RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
August 02 2013 00:03 GMT
#666
On August 02 2013 08:49 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 08:37 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:
Also, I think we need to be careful in how we deal with scam...we really should have taken him out instead of reps. Since we misfired on reps, if we go after scam and he is also a townie we are in some pretty hot water, down 4 townies with little to show. I think its important for us to be pressing more active players, then we can deal with him later if we can get on top of the game

And in context of what I have been reading this implicates you STRONGLY. Why are you defending someone who voted no lynch?!?

And who still has a sub 3 page filter for certain?

Hmmm. I didn't see that he voted no-lynch....that's definitely suspicious.

Why the fuck would he throw himself out there like that though? Given that he doesn't seem to care enough to play the game, it could very well be a total newbie mistake. We had 4-5 people wondering why to lynch day 1 earlier.

Even if he is mafia, it's a totally boneheaded move. Like I said about Umasi's withdrawal before, its a bad move for either townie or mafia.
RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
August 02 2013 00:09 GMT
#668
My main point is I think he's just a bad player who has no clue what the hell he's doing. Like me!!! Does he look scum? Yeah, there's definite indications. But most of those were about not wanting to randomly start lynching people day one, which may just be a misunderstanding of his and not due to any scumminess.

RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
August 02 2013 00:11 GMT
#671
Who is indio jones?

You make a good point about not really needing to read the thread though. Interesting
RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
August 02 2013 00:17 GMT
#677
On August 02 2013 09:12 Umasi wrote:
I don't know why someone WOULD like infii, and would happily accept an explanation. Stim can't, apparently, idk why.
and even thne, he spends a lot of that post talking about the implications of reps flipping town, and at the end says that he's anti scam and stim.
Why is he anti stim? Why wasn't he anti Daneel?

Slam, he blatantly says that he won't post analysis on day one because there is not enough information to go on. (this is accepted to be untrue.)
He also spends most of the time in that quote defending himself against a single vote (I think it was just gotard at the time. if reps was on him at the time, doesn't really count as pressure :<)

I think in the context of that post its because I was on a posting spree a few hours before. The thread would have had quite a few of posts from me and almost none from Stim. go ahead and look back, that was just a couple of hours after I really started playing last night
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