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I think to start things off, I want to implore you to please avoid spam in the thread, and at all costs, DONT LURK. Ima bit traumatized frm nuclear mafia Also, I would like everyone to comment on this QT mechanic, and how it should be used. To answer my own question, I am of the view that the QTs should be as active as possible. Each person in the QT should gauge the reaction of their buddy and try to compare the general posting on the thread and on the QT. Its another source of information that should be used. HOWEVER, the good posts and analysis should be in the thread, where everyone can view the info. Im sure scum would much rather hide behind the QTs instead of posting out in the open, so lets try to avoid that. For clarity: Random thoughts, fluff, and other stuff = QT Cases, relevant analysis, poking and prodding = thread Thoughts/comments? | ||
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I think there is no point to the QTs if we treat people there as we would treat people here. Anonymity is much more comfortable for scum to post in because they cannot be held liable for their posts. IMO this is quite agreeable. Can you explain what you mean by "only revealing when you have dirt on them"? Do you find this to be a valid plan? @shiaoPi I disagree with you. Having someone to polish their cases with before posting it out in the open is better for scum, because it will be harder for everyone else to fish out lies and inconsistencies that would be present in the original case. However, I think discussions regarding certain people should take place before making a case, but not to the point where theh case will come from two people instead of one. Am I being clear about my meaning? What do you think? | ||
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On July 24 2013 15:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am here. ShiaoPi what the hell? Why did you claim vt? Also everyone shoud be sharing their identity in mason QT's, the people who don't should be killed. If your mason partner does not share their identity kill them. There is no reason not to share that information. How do you think the QT should be used effectively? What do you think of my thoughts in the other post? | ||
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You seem a little disgruntled that ShiaoPi claimed VT. Why the negative reaction? | ||
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On July 24 2013 15:09 FirmTofu wrote: Nono, you didn't understand what I said. I'm asking do you think we should tell the thread who our QT partners are? Oh. No, I disagree. I think that the information associated with the timing of future mason claims is relevant. TBH, I dont see the point at all to announce your partners for no reason at this stage of the game. What say you? | ||
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On July 24 2013 15:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: The game has just started. I think the QT's at this point should be used to figure out your mason partner's alignment. Subject to change later on. You mean this post? I think there should be no random thoughts & fluff. Why do you? Also what do you mean by other stuff? At this point all analysis should be on thread. There is no reason to be not transparent. I added "fluff" in there so as to mean that there wont be fluff in the thread. But yea, the less fluff the better. Random thoughts = related to the game, but that would be disruptive in the thread. Other stuff = masterful game-ending plans to dish out scum  I agree 100% that transparency is best for now, so Im glad that on this regard we are on the same page. | ||
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On July 24 2013 15:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because the claim is either stupid or scum. Its a pointless claim no matter what alignment he is. However, I dislike the fact that he just waltzed into the thread with that pointless post and has not posted anything since... | ||
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On July 24 2013 15:34 Sylencia wrote: What's wrong with the part where someone from the QT posting cases made after it's been proven/given up on? As long as we still show the cases that were made, they can't hide behind anything Theres a difference between one person reading a case and 11. While one person may not find anything noteworthy in a case, some other townie might. Cases should go in thread first. | ||
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On July 24 2013 15:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: What do you think of Sylencia? Well, theres only like two pages of content, so theres not really much I can say. He's a little slow with the posts, but thats not alignment indicative. Anything caught your attention? | ||
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On July 24 2013 15:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's my point. There is no reason he should do that as town whether or not he actually is a vt. Theres no reason he should do that as scum either. I wouldnt care for that at all if he had contributed in some more useful manner later on. Is the claim solely the biggest issue you have with shiaopi? | ||
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Glad that you are active now, and also glad you pressed on the point about rayns suspicions on you that I raised earlier. I'm curious though, you seemed pretty confident that he was scum earlier in some of your posts. On July 24 2013 22:03 ShiaoPi wrote: @rayn: We can agree to disagree on the interpretation of your posts. Still you and FirmTofu were the only persons to really react in a suspicious manner to the claim so that is the point where I am standing. Who is your lynch-choice now that you have unvoted? This post seemed a ton less aggressive. Do you still think rayn is scum? @Malongo On July 24 2013 20:29 Malongo wrote: I meant that he looks more mafioso. The way he presented his suppositions were far more suspicious than a player claiming vet day1. My first thought was that the mason pairing was random and I didnt even realize that mafia doesnt need to mason, but he went all the way a step further: he thought what was actually "good" for the mafia (1 on 1 pairings). I'd really like you to elaborate on lazermonkey, I'm not following you... are you suspicious of him because you disagree with him on the mason pairing bit? | ||
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On July 25 2013 02:24 Rainbows wrote: Can someone meta me on Dandel? Is he always like this? Z-BosoN says generic pro-town stuff, passively finger-points then goes to bed. Rainbows no like. lol, you are doing the same exact thing nay? Anyways On July 25 2013 02:52 Rainbows wrote: Important I propose that we use the mason-killing ability as a double-lynch mechanic during the day. If we have two targets that are highly suspect, the person masoned with one can kill them off so we know the flip prior to lynching. This will influence the lynch for that day. That said, I do not think we should use this pseudo double-lynch day 1. Any thoughts? I actually think this is a good idea. If Malangos kill doesn't click, we use this mechanic as a double lynch, with town votes (probably during the night phase). I also agree that it should be used later on, when there is more information on the thread, so I second this post. On July 25 2013 02:33 Rainbows wrote: I generally don't like the Tofu wagon atm. Rayn was way more vocal about the VT claim than Tofu was, I find it strange that everybody wagoned onto Tofu instead. Here you show that you feel that Tofu's wagon is not warranted using the VT claim as an argument, because rayn was more vocal about it. Do you think rayn is more suspicious? What do you think of the SHiaopi/rayn interchange? | ||
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Let's just leave the mason-kill as a vigi-shot and move on? | ||
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Here he posts asking about anonymity, demonstrating an interest in discussing such aspects of the QT mechanic. On July 24 2013 13:17 Sylencia wrote: Firm, thoughts about anonymity in the qts? However, later on, when there was some discussion about whether or not it is worth it to mass claim the mason partners, he blatantly tells us his own: On July 24 2013 23:46 Sylencia wrote: Having 2 people fall for the same gambit in such a short period seems quite unlikely. I'm pretty sure rayn has been in a game with an attempted Kenpachi gambit anyways so he would know better than to fall for it along with his teammate. Explain thx. Also, Artanis is my current partner (don't think he mentioned it) This is very inconsistent, and in my experience is much more likely to come from scum. Add to that the zero amount of scumhunting he has done. All his talk is related to game mechanics, which is very easy and comfortable for scum to talk in. Thoughts? | ||
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 @Lazermonkey Fuck yea. tell me more about sylencia | ||
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On July 25 2013 04:06 Lazermonkey wrote: Hmyhea, Sylencia looks bad. No scum hunting at all. Sadely he is somewhat of a lynch bait. I managed to get him killed D1 once as scum : /. But he really need to step up his posting. I see. How would you compare his playstyle/activity in that game and in this one? | ||
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