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On July 08 2013 09:02 johnnywup wrote: I thought you were catching up on the thread? Don't you think that's more important than being greeted? What are your opinions on everything going on? Who's scum? You are scum, Ace is scum... we'll get to that later. | ||
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Has time withered your love for me away? Or are there.... "other" reasons... ? | ||
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On July 08 2013 09:21 Alakaslam wrote: HEY YOU. QUALITY OR LYNCH. THIS IS WWIII! NO MORE FLUFF. There you are. You see, while I was reading thread, I set up some devices to, you know, interact with all the peoples. According to my calculations, the odds of the person that quotes the post above of being scum are 17% higher than before said activity. I have set my eyes on you, good sir. Have a gander: On July 08 2013 09:02 Alakaslam wrote: Vote is based on the exchanges they had too. However I now conclude that rayn is just bad at defending. He has genuinely contributed pretty good info (just took a stroll through his filter). So even though it looks a little scummy to some types to act wishy washy like this I lift this vote. Please, could you link to me a few posts in which you deem "pretty good info"? This will help me out quite a bit. Thank you. My dearest Ace, in a field of anger and malevolence towards our dear friend rayne, you very clearly soft-defended him. I see this here: On July 07 2013 08:28 Ace wrote: This feels very familiar. Didn't rayne get lynched because people jumped the gun on him in Carnival Cruise? It seems that at the moment of this post, rayne was a very popular (and easy) target. I'm pretty sure there were scum and town alike pummeling him, regardless of his alignment. Yet you soft defended him, and have generally been friendly towards him. I would like a 5-sentence description of him. If you would be kind enough, please highlight what alignment you feel he is as you write this, to aid in my studies. | ||
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On July 08 2013 06:15 austinmcc wrote: As far as I can tell, you gave three reasons for thinking I'm scummy. I'm basically just asking filler questions I'm not scumhunting/putting in effort I am not my townie self/I am not playing in accordance with my town meta My last sentence is in relation to your first reason for thinking I'm scum. If my questions are filler, they don't matter, and I'm not going anywhere with them. However, if you're actually interested in the answers to my questions, then they don't seem like they are filler. If you're not interested in the answers to my questions, I ... I dunno, I think you should be. As far as meta, go look at any larger game. Especially a larger game where I don't know 1/2 or 2/3 the people. My play in a single medium-size game, where I was blue, and almost got lynched because I was an idiot, doesn't seem like the perfect point of comparison. Or go look at my scum games. I was interested in what exactly you were pulling meta from, seeing as it appears to be a large part of your reason for voting me. That's it, was just poking at your reasons for voting me. austin, I don't think you can get away with justifying your play here with a "go look at my town meta in a larger game". Here's your filter from Liquid City: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371260&user=austinmcc You seemed a ton more interested in the game. Here the only part where I felt you interested is when you were defending yourself. Can you give me something on Alaskaslam? You had some interaction with him, and I'd like to know your opinion on him atm. | ||
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On July 08 2013 06:17 Xatalos wrote: Not sure if I said anything about Ace before, but actually I get the feeling he's probably town. I see no reason for him to engage in the discussion to defend you like that unless you're both scum or both town. Currently leaning both town, so there's that. This is a post from a while back but I feel I want to dig a little deeper. My main concern with Ace at the moment is that he defended rayn at a moment in which he was under heavy aggression. Now, if I do this as a townie, the main thing I want to do is redirect attention from rayn towards something else. But his following posts do not indicate this: clicky He's not trying to steer the thread anywhere. As town I feel that letting people pressure rayn is much more natural, for me to get a better read. It's small, but I not comfortable with calling him "probably town". What do you think? | ||
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@WaveOfShadow I need you to be a little clearer on Johnnywup. You were very quick to get pissed when both he and geript voted for you. At this point, you really want johnny dead, despite not having made a single case on him: On July 08 2013 00:04 WaveofShadow wrote: Geript y u no vote Johnny? He whoopsed to many times imo. Now here it gets iffy. Suddenly, out of the blue, you have this interaction with rayne: On July 08 2013 01:19 WaveofShadow wrote: Rayn you really believe that half the scumteam jumped on the Whoops Wagon this early when half the thread is lurking and it's just as easy for them to hide? You say Johnny is town, why? Just because his post mirrors your thoughts? And then BAM, johnny goes to "probably town", without any discussion, without any real analysis: On July 08 2013 01:31 WaveofShadow wrote: Yeah, johnny probably town at this point but I'm not sure how much that helps us. I'd bet there is 1 MAYBE 2 scum voting him right now. As for Onegu: I have a little something pre-written up on him but I'm going to sit on it a bit. Onegu, do you have any nukes? If you had one (or do have one) who would you nuke right now and why? What exactly convinced you he's town? | ||
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Right now I am waiting for WoS and austin to respond and going through some other filters. What I know now is that I do not want Chezinu dead, as I stated before, and that this discussion is pointless unless there is new info that people with roles are willing to share. Xatalos, why do you feel Meapak is town? I find his play so far to be a bit confusing from a town perspective. Please elaborate. | ||
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On July 09 2013 00:57 Xatalos wrote: Why is it pointless to lynch Chezinu? He nuked me, the strongest general townread at the time, for no (apparent) reason. Maybe he was just being insane, but unless he soon A) starts explaining his actions and B) reveals what type of nuke he launched at me (solving the problem of Oatsmaster's anti-nuke), I feel we should lynch him. Reasons for Meapak being town: 1) he was nuked secretly - only scum would have a natural reason not to claim their nukes - likely the launcher is scum and Meapak is town (both CAN'T be scum, since it would be 100% insane to secretly kill your own scum team) 2) he didn't shut up after being nuked, but rather started scumhunting with renewed motivation, which is a clear town trademark (why would scum act pro-town after being sentenced to death?) 3) overall he has posted townishly and scumhunted a lot IMO Well, why would scum nuke meapak? What is the purpose in it? As I recall, he wasn't the most townie-looking person at the time of the launch. What bothers me about him is that earlier on he was pretty suspicious of rayne earlier on, but did nothing to pursue him. He just put him in the "probable scum" category in his big list, without doing any sort of discussion. I'll look into 2), seems like a fair point | ||
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On July 09 2013 01:19 WaveofShadow wrote: I'd preferably like some input from some more of the active townies here. I want to make sure this is something we can all agree on somewhat. Answer my post, good sir. | ||
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One thing that is bothering me a LOT is Alakaslams posting. He pummels me asking for more quality from a few posts of mine yesterday, is pretty oppressive on my "17%" joke, complaining that most of the thread is fluff: On July 08 2013 09:58 Alakaslam wrote: Two posts above yours, and his activity asking questions. But mostly, two posts above yours. Was good enough for me. Glad your activity is spiking. No comment on your 17% bs, reading this game you should know there is 10x more fluff than is desirable. I am watching you too, and I'll say it for you: OMGIS!!! Yet his own posting quality is very fluffy. He isn't trying to steer discussion anywhere that is useful. Anyone familiar with his playstyle feels like commenting? | ||
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On July 09 2013 01:24 WaveofShadow wrote: ZBoson I explained in a later post that his genuine outrage at my calling him scum didn't seem faked and seemed to come from a townie. I changed my mind. Pretty simple. Not buying it. That would have been fine if you were actually scumhunting. It seems to me like you dropped the ball as soon as you figured that his lynch wasn't going to happen. Your posts are quite fluffy and I don't get the feeling that you actually care who is scum and who isn't. Your latest post is pure nonsense: On July 09 2013 01:11 WaveofShadow wrote: So...guys... If someone else could be shot or saved....who would you want it to be? :D :D :D Are you claiming? Or are you just screwing around? If you are town, you really need to get a grip, because you are just clogging up the thread and being generally useless. | ||
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On July 09 2013 02:28 Ace wrote: I was talking about your comment saying I was defending rayne. Before you said it was a soft defense, now you make it seem as if I was there stopping him from getting votes. He was fine on his own. Whatever it is you understood of my meaning, I'm Just concerned your defense of him was pointless and had no real town motivation for it. Anyways, I'm not gonna make a fuss about it, I'm not calling you "prob town", and you are also not getting lynched and we need to settle on who we want to lynch. Right now I am contemplating whether I'll just go with a policy lynch on some lurker, or if we should lynch someone else. Alakaslam I don't like his Posting, but I don't want him dead yet. Who's down for a vayne lynch?? | ||
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On July 09 2013 02:48 WaveofShadow wrote: Ok this has been bugging me a little. Who has played with Boson before/ Boson why do you tend not to contribute to conversations taking place and help us out with those and instead follow your own trains of thought and lines of questioning all game? Can you not do both? I'm still lagged behind, and I don't see the purpose of your conversation. You are hinting aggression towards ace with few hours left on the vote deadline, when he is clearly not getting lynched We should be focusing on whether or not we are going through a policy lynch or if we should try to find a better suspect. I don't like a policy lynch and I want to find a better suspect to suggest we lynch. Austin seems like a solid choice, and I am prompting for him to answer before I go balls out. Also, just stfu about chezinu. So much pointless discussion on someone who is so random and hard to read. If he were scum, why wouldn't he also explain his "bad nuke"? I can't make sense from his play and I feel it's just a wasted effort, and thus will not bother with it. I may be dead wrong here, but he is better suited for blue roles (checks and such). I feel austin is the better choice here. Veyne is also good, but I want to save him for later. | ||
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On July 09 2013 02:55 Xatalos wrote: Hmm. Well, I guess that's not such a likely scenario (I'd put it in the same category as scum launching a fake nuke at scum Meapak). I don't know why town Ace would advocate a no-lynch even instead of a random lurker though. Why is that your FIRST thought is to advice no-lynching if we can't get a clear consensus? Shouldn't you be pushing your own opinion right now instead of waiting for a consensus or softly pushing a no-lynch? It feels overall scummy. Focus. He's unlikely to get lynched today. I'm glad you agree that he is scummy, but I feel time is better spent discussing this after the lynch time. Right now, aside from a policy lynch, who are your top lynches? | ||
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