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Hello Guys!
I am TheMagician, High/Top master Terran player from France playing for team Black-Listed.
This is my first guide, so not everything is gonna be perfect but I will update step by step to make this guide as clear and complete as i can. I hope you will enjoy it 
The build order I am talking about is the one Mvp used twice against Stephano in the WCS Europe final.
Note: This guide is adressed to every Terran, but Masters in particular because the BO is quite hard to execute due to the need for harass and macro at the same time.
![[image loading]](http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m36bpcYHWF1qm063go1_250.png)
Introduction
Once upon a time, a pretty good zerg player called Stephano wanted to go for a macro game vs the King of Wings, IM_Mvp, but he got punished twice for this by a really, really strong buildorder, beginning with a heavy hellion/hellbat harass into a mother f****g big Bio/Hellbat/Medivac/SCV push to finish him off.
Here we are, the goal of the entire build order is to put pressure on the Zerg, killing drones, making him lose mining time while prepairing a very strong push to kill him.
Mvp's Build Order
+ Show Spoiler + First I used the supplies and then the minute marks for reasons I do not have to explain to pro gamers like you  . - 10 : Supply ( wall off ) - 12 : Barrack - 13 : Gas - 15 : Orbital Command & Marine - 16 : Marine/SCV - 18 ( @100gas ) : Factory - 20 : Reactor on Rax - 21 : CC on low ground - 22 : 2 Hellions (you switched the Reactor from Rax to Factory ) ≈5:15 : Armory and 2 Hellions ≈5:50 : Starport ≈6:00 : tech lab on rax and 2nd refinery @%100 Armory : 2 Hellbats @%100 Starport : Medivac ≈7:30 : Stim and start Marauder production ≈8:00 : 2 Barracks then 2 Reactors as soon as finished and start Marine production At the 11:00 minute mark you are around 100 supply. Just go and crush your opponent with Marines/Marauders/3 Medivacs/Hellbats and between 10-20 SCVs. In conclusion, I would like to say that no matter what the exact BO is, if you follow Mvp's game plan : First harass, then all-in with Bio/Hellbat/Medivacs on 2 bases with 3 Raxes, 1 Starport, and a reactored Factory.
Guidelines
+ Show Spoiler +The Goal at the beginning is to harass and keep the Zerg busy while you are peacefully macroing and developing your own base : -You first go with your 2 Hellions ( then 4 ) to have map control, clear the Xel Naga towers, and delay the Zerg's 3rd base. ![[image loading]](http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2013/22/1369739753-hellions.png) -Now that your first Medivac is out you can drop 2 Hellbats in b1 or b2, but you absolutely do not want to lose these units ( you can obviously trade your Hellbats with a lot of Drones but do not lose the Medivac because you need it for the push ) -Don't forget to scout the technology that your opponent has to be ready for the 11 minutes push. ![[image loading]](http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2013/22/1369739621-mvp-push.png) -At 11:00, just go crush him to his third. Once you take it you are in pretty good shape, put your SCVs in front and go crush his army. And don't forget to continue your unit production and rally them to your army. Bio/Hellbat forces can deal with every Zerg's t1 units and Mutalisks in small numbers, don't hesitate to stim 2-3 units when you see Banelings coming.. ( Micro tip : When you push at 11:00, if the Zerg plays Ling/Banelings, you want to tank with your Marauders, but if he plays Roach/Baneling, you should prefer to keep your Marauders alive
VODs
Here i will post some VODS of MVP ( or others ) perfoming this build, if you guys have some links, feel free to give it in comments as i will add it here
LGiM_MvP vs EGStephanoRC WCS EU final game 3 French VOD by aAa
( Need game 4 if someone has a link ! )
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![[image loading]](http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2013/22/1369740662-mvp-1.jpg)
Special ThX
Me, because i really wanted the b.o of these game :D
IBringUFire : This german guys seriously rox thx for ur help with my poor english
MVP, the king of wings who will normally stay on his throne during HOTS
KadaverBB probably the most talented admin of TL
TL community !
My team www.black-listed.eu
RagèS (bL-ArèS) who is a real idiot =)
My english skills are really poor, do not hesitate to correct me !
Enjoy and GO Crush Zergs on ladder NOW !
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You should write the entire guide before posting it.
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I missclicked : / will be ready soon =)
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Very interesting guide, i'll have to try it out right now.
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On May 28 2013 18:16 LiLSighKoh wrote:
Very interesting guide, i'll have to try it out right now.
lol... 
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On May 28 2013 18:26 shadowravenn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2013 18:16 LiLSighKoh wrote:
Very interesting guide, i'll have to try it out right now. lol...
This will be a top comment in a few minutes )
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Again, some build order notes with very few explanations ≠ a guide (read here). You forgot the Starport timing and Mvp used a different order in the Star Station game.
Also, please. Mvp is not Platinum, so he goes 10 depot, not 9.
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On May 28 2013 18:55 TheDwf wrote:Again, some build order notes with very few explanations ≠ a guide (read here). You forgot the Starport timing and Mvp used a different order in the Star Station game. Also, please. Mvp is not Platinum, so he goes 10 depot, not 9.
He commented that he accidently clicked to post the thread before it was ready. It appears from the 'guidelines' section that he was in the process of providing more information for this build order.
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On May 28 2013 18:55 TheDwf wrote:Again, some build order notes with very few explanations ≠ a guide (read here). You forgot the Starport timing and Mvp used a different order in the Star Station game. Also, please. Mvp is not Platinum, so he goes 10 depot, not 9.
Thx i can also read after myself.
Even if he did not use the same build on star station, the goal is to all in at arround 11 with bio hellbats after harass.
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On May 28 2013 19:05 Hollandrock wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2013 18:55 TheDwf wrote:Again, some build order notes with very few explanations ≠ a guide (read here). You forgot the Starport timing and Mvp used a different order in the Star Station game. Also, please. Mvp is not Platinum, so he goes 10 depot, not 9. He commented that he accidently clicked to post the thread before it was ready. It appears from the 'guidelines' section that he was in the process of providing more information for this build order.
thx =)
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Waiting for your feedbacks dudes
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On May 28 2013 17:51 TheMagicianSC2 wrote: Hello Guys!I am TheMagician, High/Top master Terran player from France playing for team Black-Listed. This is my first guide, so not everything is gonna be perfect but I will update step by step to make this guide as clear and complete as i can. I hope you will enjoy it The build order I am talking about is the one Mvp used twice against Stephano in the WCS Europe final. Note: This guide is adressed to every Terran, but Masters in particular because the BO is quite hard to execute due to the need for harass and macro at the same time. IntroductionOnce upon a time, a pretty good zerg player called Stephano wanted to go for a macro game vs the King of Wings, IM_Mvp, but he got punished twice for this by a really, really strong buildorder, beginning with a heavy hellion/hellbat harass into a mother f****g big Bio/Hellbat/Medivac/SCV push to finish him off. Here we are, the goal of the entire build order is to put pressure on the Zerg, killing drones, making him lose mining time while prepairing a very strong push to kill him. Mvp's Build Order + Show Spoiler + First I used the supplies and then the minute marks for reasons I do not have to explain to pro gamers like you . - 10 : Supply ( wall off ) - 12 : Barrack - 13 : Gas - 15 : Orbital Command & Marine - 16 : Marine/SCV - 18 ( @100gas ) : Factory - 20 : Reactor on Rax - 21 : CC on low ground - 22 : 2 Hellions (you switched the Reactor from Rax to Factory ) ≈5:15 : Armory and 2 Hellions ≈5:50 : Starport ≈6:00 : tech lab on rax and 2nd refinery @%100 Armory : 2 Hellbats @%100 Starport : Medivac ≈7:30 : Stim and start Marauder production ≈8:00 : 2 Barracks then 2 Reactors as soon as finished and start Marine production At the 11:00 minute mark you are around 100 supply. Just go and crush your opponent with Marines/Marauders/3 Medivacs/Hellbats and between 10-20 SCVs. In conclusion, I would like to say that no matter what the exact BO is, if you follow Mvp's game plan : First harass, then all-in with Bio/Hellbat/Medivacs on 2 bases with 3 Raxes, 1 Starport, and a reactored Factory. The Goal at the beginning is to harass and keep the Zerg busy while you are peacefully macroing and developing your own base : -You first go with your 2 Hellions ( then 4 ) to have map control, clear the Xel Naga towers, and delay the Zerg's 3rd base. -Now that your first Medivac is out you can drop 2 Hellbats in b1 or b2, but you absolutely do not want to lose these units ( you can obviously trade your Hellbats with a lot of Drones but do not lose the Medivac because you need it for the push ) -Don't forget to scout the technology that your opponent has to be ready for the 11 minutes push. -At 11:00, just go crush him to his third. Once you take it you are in pretty good shape, put your SCVs in front and go crush his army. And don't forget to continue your unit production and rally them to your army. Bio/Hellbat forces can deal with every Zerg's t1 units and Mutalisks in small numbers, don't hesitate to stim 2-3 units when you see Banelings coming.. ( Micro tip : When you push at 11:00, if the Zerg plays Ling/Banelings, you want to tank with your Marauders, but if he plays Roach/Baneling, you should prefer to keep your Marauders alive
Spellchecked, corrected some grammar mistakes, reformatted for better readability. Feel free to copy to your OP :-)
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On May 28 2013 20:45 IBringUFire wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2013 17:51 TheMagicianSC2 wrote: Hello Guys!I am TheMagician, High/Top master Terran player from France playing for team Black-Listed. This is my first guide, so not everything is gonna be perfect but I will update step by step to make this guide as clear and complete as i can. I hope you will enjoy it The build order I am talking about is the one Mvp used twice against Stephano in the WCS Europe final. Note: This guide is adressed to every Terran, but Masters in particular because the BO is quite hard to execute due to the need for harass and macro at the same time. IntroductionOnce upon a time, a pretty good zerg player called Stephano wanted to go for a macro game vs the King of Wings, IM_Mvp, but he got punished twice for this by a really, really strong buildorder, beginning with a heavy hellion/hellbat harass into a mother f****g big Bio/Hellbat/Medivac/SCV push to finish him off. Here we are, the goal of the entire build order is to put pressure on the Zerg, killing drones, making him lose mining time while prepairing a very strong push to kill him. Mvp's Build Order + Show Spoiler + First I used the supplies and then the minute marks for reasons I do not have to explain to pro gamers like you . - 10 : Supply ( wall off ) - 12 : Barrack - 13 : Gas - 15 : Orbital Command & Marine - 16 : Marine/SCV - 18 ( @100gas ) : Factory - 20 : Reactor on Rax - 21 : CC on low ground - 22 : 2 Hellions (you switched the Reactor from Rax to Factory ) ≈5:15 : Armory and 2 Hellions ≈5:50 : Starport ≈6:00 : tech lab on rax and 2nd refinery @%100 Armory : 2 Hellbats @%100 Starport : Medivac ≈7:30 : Stim and start Marauder production ≈8:00 : 2 Barracks then 2 Reactors as soon as finished and start Marine production At the 11:00 minute mark you are around 100 supply. Just go and crush your opponent with Marines/Marauders/3 Medivacs/Hellbats and between 10-20 SCVs. In conclusion, I would like to say that no matter what the exact BO is, if you follow Mvp's game plan : First harass, then all-in with Bio/Hellbat/Medivacs on 2 bases with 3 Raxes, 1 Starport, and a reactored Factory. The Goal at the beginning is to harass and keep the Zerg busy while you are peacefully macroing and developing your own base : -You first go with your 2 Hellions ( then 4 ) to have map control, clear the Xel Naga towers, and delay the Zerg's 3rd base. -Now that your first Medivac is out you can drop 2 Hellbats in b1 or b2, but you absolutely do not want to lose these units ( you can obviously trade your Hellbats with a lot of Drones but do not lose the Medivac because you need it for the push ) -Don't forget to scout the technology that your opponent has to be ready for the 11 minutes push. -At 11:00, just go crush him to his third. Once you take it you are in pretty good shape, put your SCVs in front and go crush his army. And don't forget to continue your unit production and rally them to your army. Bio/Hellbat forces can deal with every Zerg's t1 units and Mutalisks in small numbers, don't hesitate to stim 2-3 units when you see Banelings coming.. ( Micro tip : When you push at 11:00, if the Zerg plays Ling/Banelings, you want to tank with your Marauders, but if he plays Roach/Baneling, you should prefer to keep your Marauders alive Spellchecked, corrected some grammar mistakes, reformatted for better readability. Feel free to copy to your OP :-)
Thx dude you rox, how coul i just replace your entire post to the main guide ? NVM i get it
Thx again
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You click on "quote" just right above my post. Then you copy/paste everything except the unwanted parts into a word doc or notepad doc. Then you click on "edit" above your original post and replace your text with mine :-)
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On May 28 2013 20:56 IBringUFire wrote:
You click on "quote" just right above my post. Then you copy/paste everything except the unwanted parts into a word doc or notepad doc. Then you click on "edit" above your original post and replace your text with mine :-)
It's really good right now thx to you !
Waiting for more VODs and it will be almost perfect.
What do you think ?
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I shall try this out in my next TvZ game. Just started playing again and a build like this is sure to get me going! I'll come back to detail my results and if they are positive I will ask you to make guides for strong TvT and TvP builds! 
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On May 28 2013 22:43 Chrobbus wrote:I shall try this out in my next TvZ game. Just started playing again and a build like this is sure to get me going! I'll come back to detail my results and if they are positive I will ask you to make guides for strong TvT and TvP builds!
Yea it's a good idea to share your results, if feedbacks are good i will maybe write another guide =)
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Diamond Terran here.
Tried this build on ladder and it works rather well.
Have to say... the more damage you can do with your hellbat drop the more successful the 11min push will be.
Wonder how this build will do in TvT and TvP
Thanks for sharing!
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On May 29 2013 18:11 eMM wrote:
Diamond Terran here.
Tried this build on ladder and it works rather well.
Have to say... the more damage you can do with your hellbat drop the more successful the 11min push will be.
Wonder how this build will do in TvT and TvP
Thanks for sharing!
Do not hesitate to share experiences against other races =)
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Did mvp used that vs tlo or it was a more macro build?
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