• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 12:27
CET 18:27
KST 02:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
The Grack before Christmas Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2? When will we find out if there are more tournament
Tourneys
$100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1099 users

DES editorial: SPL finals makes way for LoL

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 Next All
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 16:47:27
May 27 2013 16:33 GMT
#1
This is an indirect translation of the Korean Dailyesports's (DES) article: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=77286

DES editorial: SPL finals makes way for LoL

Normally SPL finals will be one week after the semifinal playoffs. They leave an one-week gap because SPL finals were normally held in a big venue with tons of audience so they need to use that one week for marketing and promoting the event. And of course, teams need time to prepare the finals so they can show good games.

However, this year, DES leaks that KeSPA's schedule shows that the SPL finals are in the same week as the semifinal playoffs. The semifinals playoffs are during the weekdays and SPL finals are during the same weekend. If the semifinal playoffs are played a full BO3, then there will be even less time in between.

DES thinks that the reason of this situation is that the scheduling of SPL finals are giving its way to LoL. One week after the semifinal playoffs, there will be a LoL event that is held by Seoul's city government, and one week after that, there also will be an important LoL match. OGN is not going to have enough resources to do both at the same time. If the finals are three weeks later, then the hype will decline significantly. Therefore, KeSPA can only tighten the schedule of SPL.

But KeSPA's staff refuses that this is caused by the problems of the scheduling of television broadcast. But DES insists on their speculation and argues that in the past KeSPA always said the one-week gap is for promotion and marketing but now suddenly there is no need for promotion and no need for teams to prepare?

DES urges KeSPA to admit the problem and admit the depression of SC2 and the contraints caused by LoL, so that at least they can have some honesty and get some sympathy from fans. Otherwise, KeSPA should anticipate a SPL finals with historically smallest audience size.

translated from http://www.playsc.com/forum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=362295&extra=page=1
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
May 27 2013 16:36 GMT
#2
Wow, all of a sudden even more incentive for Stars to cement their number 1 spot.
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
May 27 2013 16:50 GMT
#3
Well, it's not like last week's proleague schedule wasn't changed by LoL(as well as the timeslot change for the whole season), so there's precedence that there's a preference for LoL.
If you don't like it, you can quit.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33503 Posts
May 27 2013 16:52 GMT
#4
OGN has multiple obligations, LoL is their bigger draw by far, what ya gonna do?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
May 27 2013 16:55 GMT
#5
I just hope in 10 years we have all moved on from mobas.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 17:21:20
May 27 2013 17:21 GMT
#6
On May 28 2013 01:55 Eury wrote:
I just hope in 10 years we have all moved on from mobas.


Do you really? I mean imagine what kind of games would become the casual standard then. :/

Honestly though, it's really not hard to understand why OGN have made this choice, nor do I think they are to blame for it. I just hope the games will be satisfying to watch.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
rename
Profile Joined February 2012
Estonia329 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 17:24:38
May 27 2013 17:24 GMT
#7
On May 28 2013 01:55 Eury wrote:
I just hope in 10 years we have all moved on from mobas.


Not likely. Moba seems quite a good concept for both casual and hardcore gameplay and and also for spectator experience.

Dota and LoL are rather bad implementations with the Dota just randomly evolving out of WC3 heroes getting it accidentally rather right... and LoL copying the concept without really improving much.

Im thinking Dota as Dune2 and LoL as c&c 1 of moba's.

One day, there will be a moba that will be something between Broodwar and Starcraft2 of moba's. And it will bring progaming to mainstream.
IcedBacon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada906 Posts
May 27 2013 17:28 GMT
#8
Well that's just sad. Never thought KeSPA would give in to LoL of all things.
"I went Zerg because Artosis is a douchebag." -IdrA
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
May 27 2013 17:48 GMT
#9
Is there a prize for being the first to guess that this thread will turn into a "Starcraft II is dying" thread?
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
mtn
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
729 Posts
May 27 2013 17:48 GMT
#10
On May 28 2013 02:28 IcedBacon wrote:
Well that's just sad. Never thought KeSPA would give in to LoL of all things.


Did you even read the fucking article?
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
May 27 2013 17:57 GMT
#11
smart choice by OGN considering how few people show up to SPL
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14056 Posts
May 27 2013 17:59 GMT
#12
Lol event run by the city government wtf? Thats the real story in this article.

A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33503 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 18:06:27
May 27 2013 18:06 GMT
#13
On May 28 2013 02:59 Sermokala wrote:
Lol event run by the city government wtf? Thats the real story in this article.



Seoul has held http://estarsseoul.org/ since 2007 as a multi discipline event
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18158 Posts
May 27 2013 18:08 GMT
#14
I don't see why this is a problem at all? Or even worth a thread?

You have two events that will compete directly for viewership, you are free to schedule them whenever you like. Do you schedule them simultaneous? Or on different weekends?

What is it with people who think that because LoL is getting good viewers, SC2 is somehow in dire straights? The WCS EU finals had over 100,000 viewers. Seems to me like SC2 is doing just fine.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 18:14:05
May 27 2013 18:13 GMT
#15
No biggie, LoL is just bigger, so it's natural that SC2 has to move a little and it's not like it's being cancelled. I just hope they get a decent live viewership
Get off my lawn, young punks
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
May 27 2013 21:13 GMT
#16
The power of keSPA to ogn is obviously declining, even though multiple lol teams are keSPA teams.
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
May 27 2013 21:17 GMT
#17
Evolution of eSports.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 27 2013 21:17 GMT
#18
On May 28 2013 06:13 larse wrote:
The power of keSPA to ogn is obviously declining, even though multiple lol teams are keSPA teams.


I'd say the power of Kespa is declining and the power of OGN is rising, since OGN holds all the (LoL) cards in Korea. Kespa doesn't have any say in how the OGN LoL tournament is run.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
May 27 2013 21:18 GMT
#19
On May 28 2013 03:08 Acrofales wrote:

What is it with people who think that because LoL is getting good viewers, SC2 is somehow in dire straights? The WCS EU finals had over 100,000 viewers. Seems to me like SC2 is doing just fine.

Of course sc2 is doing fine worldwide, and people understand that. It just saddens people see to what has happened to starcraft in the place it was beyond massive
Refer to my post.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 27 2013 21:40 GMT
#20
This makes sense, doesn't seem out of place to ease the load on resources.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 15h 33m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko748
BRAT_OK 100
UpATreeSC 50
MindelVK 24
ROOTCatZ 2
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 25743
Horang2 1286
Bisu 1066
Aegong 753
GuemChi 714
Shuttle 488
Larva 423
firebathero 194
Mini 178
Hyun 178
[ Show more ]
actioN 135
ggaemo 28
HiyA 24
zelot 19
Sacsri 16
Movie 15
soO 12
SilentControl 8
JulyZerg 7
Dota 2
syndereN1116
420jenkins850
LuMiX1
League of Legends
C9.Mang0149
Counter-Strike
adren_tv148
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King128
Other Games
singsing2109
FrodaN1202
hiko772
Mlord652
ceh9332
XaKoH 114
Chillindude8
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HappyZerGling 89
• LUISG 14
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 27
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV1863
• lizZardDota257
League of Legends
• Nemesis6369
Other Games
• Shiphtur22
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
15h 33m
WardiTV Invitational
18h 33m
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Big Brain Bouts
1d 23h
Elazer vs Nicoract
Reynor vs Scarlett
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Krystianer vs TBD
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs TBD
ByuN vs Nicoract
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-12-22
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.