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Khaldor
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany861 Posts
May 27 2013 12:19 GMT
#1
I recorded a video today in which I wanted to address a few things that influence the shift in popularity of StarCraft in Korea. Some of you might already know about the points I'm talking about but I see those questions popping up all the time on Reddit and TL and wanted to talk about them.



Have fun with the video and make sure to upvote/subscribe if you enjoy it!
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edlover420
Profile Joined December 2012
349 Posts
May 27 2013 12:23 GMT
#2
KHALDOR BICEPS!
Skiblet
Profile Joined August 2011
South Africa206 Posts
May 27 2013 12:24 GMT
#3
Really great insights in this video, nice work Khaldor
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mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
May 27 2013 12:26 GMT
#4
I really enjoy your video blogs Khaldor! How does the enthusiasm for SC2 stack up compared to what there was in Brood War, and what there is now for LoL, WoT and other games? It is not as widespread as BW, but is it still popular enough? Is the big SC2 pro scene unsustainable?
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Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
May 27 2013 12:26 GMT
#5
Khaldor is so handsome.

It is amazing. I just want to like to go to a bar with him and have him read me things from Kafka or something.
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
May 27 2013 12:34 GMT
#6
Great video.

What stuck the most in my head is the bit where you compared team games to 1vs1.

I've been only playing DotA the past few months and it's so much easier to blame your team than yourself. When you lose in SC it's all your fault.

I think that deters a lot of people from actually playing SC2. I'm pretty sure the balance between people that play SC2 and people that watch it is heavily shifted towards the latter.
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mumming
Profile Joined June 2010
Faroe Islands256 Posts
May 27 2013 12:35 GMT
#7
makes sense! I remember going to PC cafe's when I was a kid, and thought it was so weird to see some ppl play wow, a game you had to pay for at a pc cafe, because they already pay to play at the pc cafe.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
May 27 2013 12:38 GMT
#8
Thanks a lot for the video Khaldor, as always it was very informative. I had no idea of the system Blizzard implemented now in Korea to cater more to the PC bangs, I guess it makes sense why SC2 wasn't as popular for so long when everyone had to buy a copy in a culture that isn't used it.
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Akilleus
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden82 Posts
May 27 2013 12:39 GMT
#9
Noooo Khaldor you are from Europe!! It is called football!!

Anyways thanks for the video. I've always heard these arguments about how important pc-bangs are for game popularity in Korea. Nice to hear an explanation from somebody who actually is in Korea.
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
May 27 2013 12:40 GMT
#10
Foreign scrubs have to pay and the korean master race gets the game cheaper and easier to get. K thx blizz'
rly ?
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
May 27 2013 12:44 GMT
#11
Always good to hear someone just go simple, instead of blaming stuff on "Infestors".
Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
May 27 2013 12:45 GMT
#12
How much did the first SC2 OSL affect the popularity of the game? I remember seeing that tournament and thinking what a terrible first impression it must have been for the BW audience.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
May 27 2013 12:47 GMT
#13
Thanks for the video blog, i learned some things about the pc bangs in korea
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
May 27 2013 12:53 GMT
#14
Nice Khaldor. I guess it's the same as here in the Philippines where "free" games like Counter Strike and WC3 DotA are still the go to games in PC Shops
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Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
May 27 2013 12:58 GMT
#15
Great Video. You basically nailed it!
Taronar
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands177 Posts
May 27 2013 13:00 GMT
#16
Wow this video is really great. The things you point out in the teamgame vs sologame is very strong
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maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
May 27 2013 13:06 GMT
#17
I bet those older ladies in the beginning of the video were hitting on Khaldor.

Informative video, though! Keep it up!
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1978 Posts
May 27 2013 13:10 GMT
#18
Broodwar was/is a 1on1 game too. So how do you explain it beeing more popular than any other game?
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Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
May 27 2013 13:10 GMT
#19
On May 27 2013 21:34 Andr3 wrote:
Great video.

What stuck the most in my head is the bit where you compared team games to 1vs1.

I've been only playing DotA the past few months and it's so much easier to blame your team than yourself. When you lose in SC it's all your fault.

I think that deters a lot of people from actually playing SC2. I'm pretty sure the balance between people that play SC2 and people that watch it is heavily shifted towards the latter.

Team games exist in SC2 too, but for some reason they're labeled as "for fun" so the competitive community doesn't care and Blizzard doesn't even try to balance them - or at least provide a decent map pool. Which is a shame, since they can gather A LOT of players who suffers from ladder anxiety.
xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
May 27 2013 13:11 GMT
#20
thanks khaldor . finaly im not the only one saying the problem is money anymore . thank you sir !
You are soo right !
+ Show Spoiler +

I said thousand of times atlast for me ( east europe - romania ) in my city we have ~10 pc bangs all with 40-80 computers each . and nobody is playing in them SC2 . out of all players i only saw 2 in pc bangs playing starcraft 2 . and thats becose it costs TOO MUCH . 50 euro here is an INSANE amount . a avarage income is between 200euro - 400euro a month some ppl cant even affoard pc's so they play only on pc bangs . i would gladly help and make a videoin wich i film every1 in my local pc bangs . and il show u 70% of players are : WoT ( rank 1 ) DotA 2 ( rank ) and LoL ( rank 3 ) played in pc bangs . we even have LoL and WoT in romanian thats how big the scene is . for the other 30% of gamers they eighter play mmo's ( WoW on private server /cracked ofc , aion , Lineage2 // it was the most played games back in its days // etc ) or play browser games or cs 1.6 .
another thing you should point out : i dont know in kr but here in romania every pc bang has steam caffe and they have like 300 games each computer . if you wanna play a free game you call the admin he logs you into the pc bang steam' caffe account . and there are tones of games for free . no reason to pay 50$ for a game that nobody plays . I'm so pissed since the release of sc2:wol that multiplayer is p2p that i would do anything i can to help blizzard understand that this is hurting its games at its most . imo the ppl who have 2k income will most likely play console games and not pc games .

thanks again khaldor . + Show Spoiler +
tell them the truth ! blizzard and western's are blind !
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