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Moloch
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada222 Posts
April 03 2013 05:13 GMT
#47
I'd like to play. Should be fun.

/in
Moloch
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada222 Posts
April 03 2013 05:26 GMT
#49
On April 03 2013 14:20 Promethelax wrote:
Also @Moloch I am a fan of your name.


I'm glad you like it. I've always had a soft spot for demons you sacrifice your children to.
Moloch
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada222 Posts
April 05 2013 00:18 GMT
#109
Rainbows is talking too much to be stuffing his face with pizza! He must not be a fattie!

#Vote: Rainbows
Moloch
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada222 Posts
April 05 2013 00:21 GMT
#111
On April 05 2013 09:18 Moloch wrote:
Rainbows is talking too much to be stuffing his face with pizza! He must not be a fattie!

#Vote: Rainbows


I forgot a pound sign. Does it still count?
Moloch
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada222 Posts
April 05 2013 00:25 GMT
#113
I would love pizza, but I've had it for the past two days.
Moloch
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada222 Posts
April 05 2013 00:33 GMT
#116
On April 05 2013 09:28 Rainbows wrote:
Okay enough guys.

##Unvote


Anyone who's here right now I want to give me their opinions on a statement.

--- I don't want to talk about policy. You can policy me this or policy me that, or raise me a lynch-all-liar policy, but I don't want to hear it. Your policy is your own. Enact it when you see fit, if at all. Don't spew it in the thread incessantly to act like you're contributing or it's the 'must-do' in a mafia game.

If you want to override this and go on with it, fine with me. Whatever you feel is best.


I'm fine with you telling everyone why you're doing everything. If you try to implement a policy that you want everyone in the game to follow it exactly, you'll probably get people complaining since not everyone wants the same thing.
Moloch
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada222 Posts
April 05 2013 00:56 GMT
#120
You're just seeing what type of personality you can use to not be suspected, skinny guy!

People who don't say a lot and just stay low take a higher priority over people that say a lot. Especially early game. If the guys who talk a lot are good, they'll be better for the town than people who don't say much, and if they do happen to be non-fatties, there's a higher chance they'll slip up sooner or later. It's difficult to slip up when you don't say anything or don't have an opinion of your own.

So, in your situation probably C or D.
Moloch
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada222 Posts
April 05 2013 01:09 GMT
#125
I really think you should wait an hour or two before accusing him of dodging the question. Maybe he went to eat supper or grab a snack.
Moloch
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada222 Posts
April 05 2013 01:53 GMT
#130
On April 05 2013 10:50 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 10:29 Rainbows wrote:
On April 05 2013 10:13 jrkirby wrote:
##Vote Rainbows

I think he's just trying to jerk us around here and distract us. If he's fat, he doesn't have much info yet and wouldn't make so many wild accusations so quickly.


I'll take this as an answer: "Guy A"

Doesn't he need to jump around before hes a Guy A?

If he's jumping around, we have to lynch him. Fatties can't jump.
Moloch
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada222 Posts
April 05 2013 05:57 GMT
#161
Moloch, in this post you calling Rainbows scum in a noncommital way (bolded by me). Do you think he is actually scummy for that post?


That was supposed to be a joke at that point. I didn't actually think he was scummy at that point. My original vote for him was a joke as well, since it was based upon him posting a lot early and not having enough time to eat pizza.

But, I've kept my vote on him for a couple reasons. According to this post, he gets very defensive about about being called scum, whereas I interpreted Saraf's comment to not be calling out anyone in particular - just being the way he thought about stuff. (It's possible that I don't feel like anyone's been spammy so far affected how I interpreted it).

I also don't like how he changed his vote from Smancer to someone else to quickly. He gave a reason he thought Smancer was a suspect, then just changed it to Saraf because he got overly defensive (but he had a couple posts in between Saraf labeling him and switching his vote, which makes me suspect that it wasn't a hasty vote-switch caused by emotion)

I'm not certain about anyone, but Rainbows seems like the best bet at the moment.
Moloch
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada222 Posts
April 05 2013 06:02 GMT
#163
In my last post, I said he was defensive about being called scum, when he was actually aggressive about someone else calling him townie. I knew what I meant at the time, and I still draw the same conclusion. But it was a mistake in what I typed.
Moloch
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada222 Posts
April 06 2013 01:50 GMT
#243
I've been away for a while, so I'll give general impressions of what I think of people so far.

Jarjar - He is certain kirby is skum in his first post because he feels kirby changed his mind too easily. I feel he reads too much into kirby's unvote. Everything he's posted has been aggressive towards kirby, while being certain Rainbows is a townie because of his read on kirby.

I'm suspicious of him because his only reasons (that he's stated) come from kirby's noncommital way of saying that Rainbows is either scum or an idiot. Since then, he's done nothing aside from saying kirby is very suspicious ( using that as the reason he thinks Rainbows is townie).

Smancer - Nothing he's said raised any red flags and I like the variety in his posting style. A mixture of his opinions and questions to try to keep conversation going.

jampidampi - He hasn't given his own opinion on anything aside from saying that he thinks Rainbows misinterpreted Saraf's post. Also, a third of his posts talk about whether or not someone else is at their computer (even getting aggressive with kirby when kirby replies to him).

I don't have a strong opinion of him, though. It could be that he feels a delay in posting is scum chatting with each other to try to figure out what to do. I don't think it's a good idea to base opinions off of this since there will be a lot more false-positives with strangely long reply times than there will be actual scum catches.

Warent - He explains Rainbow's misinterpreting (which I completely agree with), and gave opinions on a couple other people. I like his style.

Saraf - He's pushing to lynch the spammiest asshole a bit too much. I think he did imply that Rainbows was the spammy asshole, but he certainly did not state that Rainbows was a townie.

kirby - I like his reasoning that he's given for his decisions recarding voting/unvoting Rainbows. At first he thinks he's malicious, then thinks he's an idiot fattie. I don't like how his reason to suspect jampidampi is that he isn't suspicious. It feels really weird to me.

TRN - He has only made three posts that aren't spam. He hasn't made any statements about his own opinion, just ask questions of others (aside from his post about the hypothetical A, B, C, D policy question). I like him less now than I did before.

Fishgle - I like that he appears to be posting a good mixture of calling other people out without accusing, and posting his own opinions. I like what he says about Warent's hypocrisy, but I'm unsure what I think about his suggestion that Rainbows got a blind hit on Saraf (I'll go into more once I'm done every person)

Obzy - I have a positive opinion of how he's been posting. I get a general okay vibe from him.

nobodywonder - His posting style seems defensive overall. It doesn't give me a good feeling, but I do like how he is able to critique why someone else voted for kirby, and then vote for kirby himself a little bit later. It implies an open mind. I have really mixed feelings about this guy,

Rainbows - I feel this has been the most controversial person. I really don't like how he is pushing so hard to have Saraf lynched off a sentence that Rainbows misinterpreted (multiple people pointed it out to him and he still kept going hardcore against Saraf).
Moloch
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada222 Posts
April 06 2013 03:36 GMT
#255
On April 06 2013 12:25 Rainbows wrote:
Like, you call it a 'vendetta' when i've given my reads on plenty of people so far. Stop homogenizing my play and actually read.


I think he is correct in calling it a vendetta. You don't just say what you think and vote accordingly, you go over-the-top aggressive and then you shout at everyone to do exactly what you do. Then you switch targets at the drop of a pin.

This is the very first day, there is no way anyone can be as certain about anyone as you claim to be about your reads.

I'm keeping my vote on you for now because I'm not extremely suspicious about anyone else (just mildly suspicious about everyone), and you seem to feel the need to cause as much discord as you can.
Moloch
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada222 Posts
April 06 2013 04:05 GMT
#267
On April 06 2013 12:40 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 12:36 Moloch wrote:
On April 06 2013 12:25 Rainbows wrote:
Like, you call it a 'vendetta' when i've given my reads on plenty of people so far. Stop homogenizing my play and actually read.


I think he is correct in calling it a vendetta. You don't just say what you think and vote accordingly, you go over-the-top aggressive and then you shout at everyone to do exactly what you do. Then you switch targets at the drop of a pin.

This is the very first day, there is no way anyone can be as certain about anyone as you claim to be about your reads.

I'm keeping my vote on you for now because I'm not extremely suspicious about anyone else (just mildly suspicious about everyone), and you seem to feel the need to cause as much discord as you can.


Bolded - Where? Go.

You also claim I'm "certain" about my reads --- LOL BUT IM MAKING CASES ON DIFFERENT PEOPLE BRO. I'm rather disinterested with Saraf at the moment.

Conflict yourself more.


You use caps lock regularly and a large amount of sarcasm, which give your posts an overall feel of aggressiveness. Maybe that's just me. You said that everyone who doesn't trust you is either scum or an idiot. I have to admit I overstated you yelling at everyone to do what you do; you just yell (how I interpret the caps locks) at people and then say that people who don't do what you do are idiots.

I don't believe anything I've said has conflicted with something else I've said.

Yes, you've been reading a lot of people, yes, but the people you suspect (first Saraf, then TRN) you present in a 100% matter-of-fact way, which is what I was referring to.
Moloch
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada222 Posts
April 06 2013 04:06 GMT
#268
On April 06 2013 12:58 Rainbows wrote:
@ Moloch

Come on. Answer me. You said I'm being over-the-top aggressive and shouting at people to do what I want. Prove it, quote me.

You also say I'm very sure about my reads. But I've presented small cases on many people now. How does this make sense?


Be a bit more patient next time. I had to answer the door and get my pizza.
Moloch
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada222 Posts
April 06 2013 04:22 GMT
#274
On April 06 2013 12:44 nobodywonder wrote:
Moloch, you complain of Rainbow being spammy, but what do you think about his analysis, itself. maybe if valid, rainbows kinda does have right to be aggressive to kill scum and inform others?


His analysis does seem to be pretty good. I do like most of his contributions since he stopped pursuing Saraf over that stupid misunderstanding.

On April 06 2013 13:11 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 13:05 Moloch wrote:
On April 06 2013 12:40 Rainbows wrote:
On April 06 2013 12:36 Moloch wrote:
On April 06 2013 12:25 Rainbows wrote:
Like, you call it a 'vendetta' when i've given my reads on plenty of people so far. Stop homogenizing my play and actually read.


I think he is correct in calling it a vendetta. You don't just say what you think and vote accordingly, you go over-the-top aggressive and then you shout at everyone to do exactly what you do. Then you switch targets at the drop of a pin.

This is the very first day, there is no way anyone can be as certain about anyone as you claim to be about your reads.

I'm keeping my vote on you for now because I'm not extremely suspicious about anyone else (just mildly suspicious about everyone), and you seem to feel the need to cause as much discord as you can.


Bolded - Where? Go.

You also claim I'm "certain" about my reads --- LOL BUT IM MAKING CASES ON DIFFERENT PEOPLE BRO. I'm rather disinterested with Saraf at the moment.

Conflict yourself more.


You use caps lock regularly and a large amount of sarcasm, which give your posts an overall feel of aggressiveness. Maybe that's just me. You said that everyone who doesn't trust you is either scum or an idiot. I have to admit I overstated you yelling at everyone to do what you do; you just yell (how I interpret the caps locks) at people and then say that people who don't do what you do are idiots.

I don't believe anything I've said has conflicted with something else I've said.

Yes, you've been reading a lot of people, yes, but the people you suspect (first Saraf, then TRN) you present in a 100% matter-of-fact way, which is what I was referring to.


I'm an aggressive town. I'm actually physically hurting from the lack of intelligence in some people this game.

How the heck am I supposed to convince people if Im going "Oh, well, maybe, this is scummy, but maybe not, idk guys!" You have to be to the point in this game or people won't follow you to the lynch. I want to lynch scum. Not beat around the bush here.

I'm not trying to be an asshole. Most of the people either have no idea what scum look like or are scum themselves, and so call me scum because I'm super active, to the point, and vindictive about my reads. This is town behavior, because I actually care about who's getting lynched. I'm calling people idiots at this point because I'm angry.


I like this explanation. I'll do my best to read your stuff in a better light, but you need to understand if I still don't trust you any more than anyone else. You post about everyone's idiocy, but you know that if everyone took the person who posts the most at face value, that would actually be the stupidest thing.
Moloch
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada222 Posts
April 06 2013 04:22 GMT
#275
On April 06 2013 13:12 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 13:06 Moloch wrote:
On April 06 2013 12:58 Rainbows wrote:
@ Moloch

Come on. Answer me. You said I'm being over-the-top aggressive and shouting at people to do what I want. Prove it, quote me.

You also say I'm very sure about my reads. But I've presented small cases on many people now. How does this make sense?


Be a bit more patient next time. I had to answer the door and get my pizza.


Dat soft town claim :p /jokepost


Hahaha. Want a picture?
Moloch
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada222 Posts
April 06 2013 06:24 GMT
#299
On April 06 2013 14:24 Rainbows wrote:
Just because someone calls you scum doesn't mean they are scum. Mafia 101.


You say this - ridiculing TRN for suspecting you just because you suspect him.

Then you do the exact same thing.

On April 06 2013 15:21 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 15:03 jampidampi wrote:
This scummy since Rainbows clearly cares his image. He cares that people see him as town. He cares enough to make a point of being the center of discussion. Scum care for their image.


You. Are. Scum.

##unvote
##Vote: Jampidamp


And your main reason is

On April 06 2013 15:18 Rainbows wrote:
I honestly can't believe a townie would be that dumb.


Isn't this a bit hypocritical?
Moloch
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada222 Posts
April 06 2013 06:38 GMT
#311
On April 06 2013 15:31 Rainbows wrote:
I'm the Vigilante. Just RB / Shoot me tomorrow night scum.

I can't even stand being in this retarded mess anymore.

I made reasonable posts and good points but everyone just kept being stupid.

Moloch is probably town. Obzy is probably town. Fishgle maybe town. Smancer might be town.


If you are actually vigilante, I fucking hate you.

If you don't want to play anymore, just ask to be replaced. You signed up for a "Newbie Mafia" game, so the fact that others aren't good at reading into posts shouldn't be a surprise.

Don't ruin the game for everyone else because you get frustrated barely halfway through the first day.
Moloch
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada222 Posts
April 06 2013 06:41 GMT
#314
Because that's the way the game is played, isn't it? Isn't a good strategy of the scum to make good posts and make everyone think they're contributing?

If Mafia never analyzed anything, it would be stupidly easy to pick them out and the game wouldn't have any point.
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