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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 02 2013 10:25 GMT
#17
/in as long as it won't start before Monday.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 04 2013 18:25 GMT
#27
On March 04 2013 14:05 jaybrundage wrote:
Lets get some pregame talk going. I think we should policy lynch Vivax. Anyone wanna join me :D

Policy lynching Marv regardless of if he's in the game or not.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 05 2013 08:03 GMT
#125
Hey guys, just woke up and I'm gonna stick to my pregame plan.
##Vote Marvellosity
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 05 2013 11:58 GMT
#127
On March 05 2013 03:57 Dandel Ion wrote:
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On March 05 2013 03:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 04 2013 14:05 jaybrundage wrote:
Lets get some pregame talk going. I think we should policy lynch Vivax. Anyone wanna join me :D

Policy lynching Marv regardless of if he's in the game or not.

I'm down with that.


On March 05 2013 05:38 jaybrundage wrote:
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On March 05 2013 03:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 04 2013 14:05 jaybrundage wrote:
Lets get some pregame talk going. I think we should policy lynch Vivax. Anyone wanna join me :D

Policy lynching Marv regardless of if he's in the game or not.

Sounds like a good plan.

Explain why you're not following the plan.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 05 2013 12:13 GMT
#128
On March 05 2013 10:32 Hapahauli wrote:
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On March 05 2013 10:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On March 05 2013 10:26 Hapahauli wrote:
You never had the balls. I KNEW IT!

Ok ok anyway our little circle-jerk here is probably town. That's the good news.

what makes you think that?


Why not? A bunch of people were super-eager to get things started and did wild things without thinking of their reputation. It's a townie circle-jerk until someone proves otherwise.

If you're convinced this easily then I'm not sure I'm going to be too confident in your ability to find scum. Tell me Hapa, is this comment serious? I've seen plenty of mafia games that start out in a joking way and I don't see why it wouldn't be very easy for scum to do so.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 05 2013 12:51 GMT
#130
Jay, what do you think of the post by Hapa that I quoted?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 05 2013 13:15 GMT
#132
Because I made a joke post before it? Yes, I felt like I should contribute after that given the amount of content already posted. I read through the thread after said joke post and found Hapa's posts to be strange. Do you disagree?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 05 2013 13:24 GMT
#134
His comment seems to suggest a certain sense of seriosity unless my sarcasm detector is malfunctioning. It smells like buddying based on absolutely nothing.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 05 2013 13:30 GMT
#136
Wait, you think that's a valid reason to consider someone a town read? Banter at the start of the game with literally no pressure whatsoever?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 05 2013 13:45 GMT
#138
My answer should have no bearing on your answer to my question. I'm asking for your read on Hapa, not me.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 05 2013 14:41 GMT
#142
On March 05 2013 23:33 Vivax wrote:
You express interest in asking Hapa a question and think his buddying was suspicious but aren't motivated to give your opinion on him? That's strange...

I don't think Hapa is scum based on what you said about him.

I simply wanted to hear your opinion first before I gave mine since you seemed to place value on me sharing mine first while I could see no reason why.

I find the post by hapa suspicious in that it has strong conclusions from very weak argumentation. That he's being so blunt about it and doesn't try to hide it does make me doubt, though.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 05 2013 14:47 GMT
#144
On March 05 2013 23:41 Hapahauli wrote:
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On March 05 2013 21:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 05 2013 10:32 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 05 2013 10:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On March 05 2013 10:26 Hapahauli wrote:
You never had the balls. I KNEW IT!

Ok ok anyway our little circle-jerk here is probably town. That's the good news.

what makes you think that?


Why not? A bunch of people were super-eager to get things started and did wild things without thinking of their reputation. It's a townie circle-jerk until someone proves otherwise.

If you're convinced this easily then I'm not sure I'm going to be too confident in your ability to find scum. Tell me Hapa, is this comment serious? I've seen plenty of mafia games that start out in a joking way and I don't see why it wouldn't be very easy for scum to do so.


This is just about what I gathered from the proceedings:
Dr.H (WELP)
Dandel Ion
Mr.CC
Thrawn (admitted to not reading his role PM at the time)

So obviously the comment doesn't apply as much with Thrawn's admission, but I still stick by my stances on Dandel and Mr.CC. I perceive Dandel to be too fearless to be scum, and Dr.H (a vet player who he doesn't know) is a pretty brave target for a joke-bandwagon. Smacks of fearlessness and "not-giving-a-shit" about his image, hence he's town.

Mr.CC just seemed townie with the light-heartedness of his posts. He also made me laugh a couple of times.

Mafia's a simple game really.

Dr. H has been 'cleared' only because he claimed blue, not because of the banter. I agree on your Dandel read; he seems aggressive and willing to take action, but I wouldn't colour him as green as you have. How you can call Mr. CC as anything above null is beyond me. He's barely posted anything.

Also, fwiw, I didn't read my role until after I already commented on your post. I was going to bus you if we turned out to be in a scumteam :<
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 05 2013 14:54 GMT
#146
On March 05 2013 23:51 Promethelax wrote:
Did anyone read their role pm?

I did after my accusation of hapa. The PM was painfully short and without pretty colours. It was dissapointing.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 05 2013 15:01 GMT
#151
On March 05 2013 23:57 Vivax wrote:
Well anyway, people I would lynch currently: Artanis, Prom, jay. Let's see what happens soon. Jay and Prom cause of exclusion, Artanis cause I can't unsee what I found scummy and he seems afraid to call Hapa scum after our confrontation.

But I'll see how he plays the day out, in the meantime I'll favour him over the others.


##Unvote
##Vote Artanis

I think you place too much importance on your confrontation. I'm not calling him scum because whilst I found what he said suspicious, I still wonder if it's something he'd say this confidently as scum. Would you consider it more towny if I tunneled him?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 05 2013 15:15 GMT
#153
On March 06 2013 00:06 Vivax wrote:
Well it's this overall impression I have of you, not just that.

If you answered that you thought him to be scum I would have mentioned the reasons for why I think he's town. That's why I asked you if you thought him to be scum.

Since you said you doubt him to be scum I see no reason to mention the reasons for why I think he's town. I still have my reasons for my townread pasted in a document to be posted later if it need be. But I don't see a reason to defend anyone when he's not in danger.

If you're town then just play like you're town and I might or might not change my opinion about you. Discussing my impression of you is not going to be productive. Try to find some useful information on your own instead.

So you're hiding information about why you think Hapa is town (aka town tells), yet you consider him town for giving town tells. Which means that either you think Hapa is town for doing something anti-town, or you're being purposefully anti-town. Please do tell me if I'm missing a third option here because I don't see it.

As for finding useful information on my own; there's precious little to go off in the thread so far other than the post I quoted before. We could talk about Dr.H's blueclaim but I don't see that going in any useful direction, nor all the joke votes that have been thrown around. Hapa's recent post doesn't really give me a lot.

Hapa, why do you consider Cheesecake a town read? Do you have any current scumreads?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 05 2013 17:05 GMT
#172
On March 06 2013 01:17 Hapahauli wrote:
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On March 06 2013 00:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 06 2013 00:06 Vivax wrote:
Well it's this overall impression I have of you, not just that.

If you answered that you thought him to be scum I would have mentioned the reasons for why I think he's town. That's why I asked you if you thought him to be scum.

Since you said you doubt him to be scum I see no reason to mention the reasons for why I think he's town. I still have my reasons for my townread pasted in a document to be posted later if it need be. But I don't see a reason to defend anyone when he's not in danger.

If you're town then just play like you're town and I might or might not change my opinion about you. Discussing my impression of you is not going to be productive. Try to find some useful information on your own instead.

So you're hiding information about why you think Hapa is town (aka town tells), yet you consider him town for giving town tells. Which means that either you think Hapa is town for doing something anti-town, or you're being purposefully anti-town. Please do tell me if I'm missing a third option here because I don't see it.

As for finding useful information on my own; there's precious little to go off in the thread so far other than the post I quoted before. We could talk about Dr.H's blueclaim but I don't see that going in any useful direction, nor all the joke votes that have been thrown around. Hapa's recent post doesn't really give me a lot.

Hapa, why do you consider Cheesecake a town read? Do you have any current scumreads?


Uh did I not just talk about that an hour ago?

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On March 05 2013 23:41 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 05 2013 21:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 05 2013 10:32 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 05 2013 10:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On March 05 2013 10:26 Hapahauli wrote:
You never had the balls. I KNEW IT!

Ok ok anyway our little circle-jerk here is probably town. That's the good news.

what makes you think that?


Why not? A bunch of people were super-eager to get things started and did wild things without thinking of their reputation. It's a townie circle-jerk until someone proves otherwise.

If you're convinced this easily then I'm not sure I'm going to be too confident in your ability to find scum. Tell me Hapa, is this comment serious? I've seen plenty of mafia games that start out in a joking way and I don't see why it wouldn't be very easy for scum to do so.


This is just about what I gathered from the proceedings:
Dr.H (WELP)
Dandel Ion
Mr.CC
Thrawn (admitted to not reading his role PM at the time)

So obviously the comment doesn't apply as much with Thrawn's admission, but I still stick by my stances on Dandel and Mr.CC. I perceive Dandel to be too fearless to be scum, and Dr.H (a vet player who he doesn't know) is a pretty brave target for a joke-bandwagon. Smacks of fearlessness and "not-giving-a-shit" about his image, hence he's town.

Mr.CC just seemed townie with the light-heartedness of his posts. He also made me laugh a couple of times.

Mafia's a simple game really.


I've played 3 or 4 games with him so I have a pretty good feel for how he plays. Admittedly I haven't looked through his latest scumgame (Nomination Mafia, in which he apparently played pretty well), which I need to do some time today. Otherwise, his attitude suggests townie CC.

Ah okay, so people are townie for making you laugh, duly noted.
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On March 06 2013 01:44 Hapahauli wrote:
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On March 05 2013 22:10 Vivax wrote:
I'm FoSing you Artanis.

Your play looks forced.


Huh wait. Since when do you FoS people?

Last I played with you (Normal Mini IV), you weren't afraid at all to throw your vote around on people you wanted answers from in the early game. I don't remember seeing it in other games either. It doesn't seem like you're scared to throw around your vote in general (due to your "joke" vote on Jay)...
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On March 05 2013 16:32 Vivax wrote:
It's abut 8:30 AM here and I'm about to move out. I support a jay lynch for the time being until I see something that convinces me otherwise.

##Vote jaybrundage

Best mislynch NA


... so what gives? You're voting someone for mysterious policy reasons, and pursuing your scumreads elsewhere. It doesn't look like you care about your vote, and your FoS looks like a neutered version of the pressure I've seen from you as town.

I like this post and it was something that escaped me the first time I saw him post. It seems he realized it too after doing it since he moved his vote to me a bit later despite nothing really having changed since then.
##Vote: Vivax

Regarding Promethelax: I'm not liking it either. Not reading the thread can be explained as both town and scum, but given the detail of his questions, they're fairly specifically formulated. Generally when you know what you're looking for, you can find it in a thread if it's there. I still like the Vivax point more, though.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 05 2013 17:06 GMT
#174
Also I'm happy with Hapa for now with the posts he's made. Some decent points, even if he's been a bit of a dummy in some spots it doesn't feel like there's a mafia agenda behind it.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 05 2013 17:18 GMT
#181
On March 06 2013 02:13 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I'll lynch me a Vivax, Prom, or Jay today. I'll throw a dart at a board and see which one I hit.

Stream it. We need to make sure it's real RNG.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 05 2013 17:25 GMT
#183
On March 06 2013 02:24 Hapahauli wrote:
Oh Artanis, to double check, have you played any games as mafia since Haunted Mafia?

I rolled scum in that game where VE and Toad had the epic bus against eachother and I think Foolishness accidentally posted the roles so the game had to end. Forgot the game name.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 05 2013 17:55 GMT
#203
I tried to pull a Dieno but I don't think I'm fit for this
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