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Brainyac
Germany199 Posts
I just wanted to ask, if i'm able to stream in 720p OR even on 1080p on low-mid graphic settings (sc2/d3) with this laptop: http://www.mysn.de/detail.asp?userid=E57DA5FE6E51459D999B0526EE1A748A&KategorienOrder=010;020;015;010&bestellnr=XMG-P702-TOP CPU: Intel Core i7-3740QM @2,70ghz to 3,70ghz GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M RAM: Corsair 8GB DDR3 @1600mhz My Internet is okay: 100mbit down/6mbit up. Thanks, Brain | ||
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Gihi
384 Posts
I would look to buy a 680M though, it performs nearly twice as well as the 670M. I got myself a similar setup 2 months ago, can record 1200p on Rift/Black ops II/Starcraft/WoW/CS:GO with graphics fully maxed out and get above 30 fps. I bought mine here They have the exact same laptops under other brands, like Sager for example. I can't find a way to change the language on the site, but google translate should give u a clue. | ||
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Brainyac
Germany199 Posts
On December 18 2012 19:59 Gihi wrote: Yes definitely. I would look to buy a 680M though, it performs nearly twice as well as the 670M. I got myself a similar setup 2 months ago, can record 1200p on Rift/Black ops II/Starcraft/WoW/CS:GO with graphics fully maxed out and get above 30 fps. I bought mine here They have the exact same laptops under other brands, like Sager for example. I can't find a way to change the language on the site, but google translate should give u a clue. Thanks, but the 680M would cost 498€ (655$) more which is not worth it in my opinion. I could get a AMD Radeon hd 7970m, is this worth it? Thanks. | ||
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Gihi
384 Posts
On December 18 2012 20:09 Brainyac wrote: Thanks, but the 680M would cost 498€ (655$) more which is not worth it in my opinion. I could get a AMD Radeon hd 7970m, is this worth it? Thanks. No the 7970m is worse than the 670M as far as I know. The 680M should only cost about 300€ more tops. It's probably some other differences you are counting as well. 670M benchmark 680M benchmark Your call completely, it's a huge difference though. 680M will last (As in smoothly run current games) at least 2 years longer. | ||
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Brainyac
Germany199 Posts
Is there another laptop with this performance in the price category? (around 1500€) On December 18 2012 20:18 Gihi wrote: No the 7970m is worse than the 670M as far as I know. The 680M should only cost about 300€ more tops. It's probably some other differences you are counting as well. 670M benchmark 680M benchmark Your call completely, it's a huge difference though. 680M will last (As in smoothly run current games) at least 2 years longer. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-670-review,3200-15.html There is just a 4 to 5% performance difference? | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On December 18 2012 21:06 Brainyac wrote: I'll think about it, but so much money additionally just for the gpu :/ Is there another laptop with this performance in the price category? (around 1500€) http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-670-review,3200-15.html There is just a 4 to 5% performance difference? I think that was the desktop cards. try http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html (If you dig around a bit you can find game bench marks and you'll see that the 680M greatly outperformes the 670M and is a bit better than the 7970m). EDIT: the cads are ranked 13, 14 and 45 (that should already tell you a lot. Personally, I'd be fine with the 670 but I seldom play the newest games or highest settings etc.) | ||
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Brainyac
Germany199 Posts
Games like Starcraft2 and Diablo3 should run on the highest settings without problems with the 670M or? Would the laptop be able to stream with these settings too? On 720p/1080p. | ||
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mrRoflpwn
United States2618 Posts
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Brainyac
Germany199 Posts
On December 19 2012 00:19 mrRoflpwn wrote: Ultra settings are overrated. I always play on low-medium custom settings to maximize performance in the late game. I hate even a slight amount of lag. I play Starcraft 2 on low-medium and Diablo 3 on mid-high. I hate laggs too and prefer smooth gaming then high graphics with spikes/lags. But I wanted to know where my limitations are. I just want to play smooth and stream with good quality. | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On December 18 2012 18:45 Brainyac wrote: Hey guys, I just wanted to ask, if i'm able to stream in 720p OR even on 1080p on low-mid graphic settings (sc2/d3) with this laptop: http://www.mysn.de/detail.asp?userid=E57DA5FE6E51459D999B0526EE1A748A&KategorienOrder=010;020;015;010&bestellnr=XMG-P702-TOP CPU: Intel Core i7-3740QM @2,70ghz to 3,70ghz GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M RAM: Corsair 8GB DDR3 @1600mhz My Internet is okay: 100mbit down/6mbit up. Thanks, Brain The CPU is capable of streaming in HD. Expect having no issues with 720p (30 fps) or 1080p (20 fps.) Use medium graphic settings for streaming to provide a stutter-free experience. (The GPU should be able to handle Ultra settings, but the frame grabbing for streaming can have quite an impact on performance.) | ||
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Rollin
Australia1552 Posts
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Brainyac
Germany199 Posts
On December 19 2012 01:03 [F_]aths wrote: The CPU is capable of streaming in HD. Expect having no issues with 720p (30 fps) or 1080p (20 fps.) Use medium graphic settings for streaming to provide a stutter-free experience. (The GPU should be able to handle Ultra settings, but the frame grabbing for streaming can have quite an impact on performance.) Thanks! Will the viewer see, that it's "only" 20fps on 1080p? And another question: I will play on a 24" monitor, will that have a big impact on the performance? | ||
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DMTsyncope
Netherlands46 Posts
Whenever i stream (480p, i72600, gt555m) I dont go over 50-60% cpu usage. But my temps will easily hit 80-85- degrees celcius if shit goes down. So in theory you always have more power available but half the time you cant even use it. And you say that you are gonna play on a bigger screen.. Yes this has a big impact on performance. Atleast that is my experience.. i get waaaay more fps while playing games if i use the laptop monitor itself instead of an external one. (even though the internal 1 is 1920x1080 and my external is only 1680x1050) I hope some of this helps! | ||
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Brainyac
Germany199 Posts
Of how much fps difference are you talking? | ||
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DMTsyncope
Netherlands46 Posts
But with some 1st person shooters the difference is about 10-15 fps. Again, this is my experience with my laptop, so it might not apply to your situation. *edit: I checked the link of the cooler.. Are you getting a 15' or 17' laptop? Cause if you are looking for performance, i would go with the 17'' since those are bigger which means better cooling overall. | ||
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Brainyac
Germany199 Posts
It's a 17" laptop. | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On December 19 2012 01:10 Brainyac wrote: Thanks! Will the viewer see, that it's "only" 20fps on 1080p? And another question: I will play on a 24" monitor, will that have a big impact on the performance? The GPU should be able to render in 1920x1080 effortless. If it is a 1920x1200 monitor, I recommend you still use 1920x1080 for streaming because of the native 16 : 9 ratio. You can configure the driver to get black bars instead of an distorted image. You will most probably be playing in 1920x1080. To get a 1280x720 stream, the stream application scales that image down. This can be done with acceptable image quality. A native 1920x1080 stream still would give you a sharper image, of course. The only issue is that Youtube links only allow to force 720p through the link. The Youtube viewer needs to either manually set 1080 or switch into fullscreen mode. 30 fps can be regarded very smooth given you play with an integer factor of 30 fps. You can force the game through the variables.txt to limit the framerate to 60 fps. So you get 60 fps ingame and 30 fps on stream. If you play with lets say 55 or 65 fps, the 30 fps stream does not appear as smooth as if you have 60 fps. The same is true for 20 fps. Given you play with 40 or 60 fps steadily, 20 fps still look acceptable. 15 fps on the other hand is hard to stand for a longer time. (Those few fps make all the difference!) You *can* try to stream 1080 with 30 fps with lowering the streaming quality setting. However, lower quality settings will result in a more blurrier image when you scroll. Higher quality settings are noticably more CPU intensive, but when you are done scrolling, the image on the stream gets sharp quickly. | ||
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Brainyac
Germany199 Posts
Otherwise, thanks for so much information! Learned a lot  | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
"1080p with 30 fps" can look horrible with small bandwidth or a too low quality setting. You have to find the optimum for that system by trial and error. You can use the windows task manager on the laptop screen to see if you have CPU power left to find the optimal setting more quickly. You can use the build-in Starcraft fps counter to check the framerate to see when you should lower Starcraft graphic details. The counter is not 100% correct but you will notice heavy performance hits. | ||
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Brainyac
Germany199 Posts
 Do you have experience with the Caster-Programs too? I have a premium Xsplit Account but I heard, OBS don't take as much CPU performance as Xsplit. | ||
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