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Draco = best foreigner?

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tfeign
Profile Joined June 2004
United States2980 Posts
April 02 2006 00:47 GMT
#1
After the recent months and TANL, is it now safe to say that, in all of their current shapes, Draco is the #1 foreigner?


Also as a side question, when is the Tot invite tourney ever going to finish? I was looking forward to sen vs draco.
Slipgoon
Profile Joined November 2005
Sweden390 Posts
April 02 2006 00:52 GMT
#2
agree, but his pvt needs a huge boost, saw some games vs risingstar where he play awful =/
its cool that he has a great pvp, a quality not that common.
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SixSongs
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Poland1455 Posts
April 02 2006 00:54 GMT
#3
I dissagree, imho Mondi is still the best forigner. You can't say he's the best outisde Korea, only because he won one importnat tournament. However he's in top 10 imho foreigners, and in top3 foreign tosses. And currently he's preety active, but anyone form top 10 could achieve the same if the just played as many games as Draco does.
The Prince of DroneS
{ToT}Strafe
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Thailand7026 Posts
April 02 2006 00:55 GMT
#4
draco won tanl , mondi won ggl which was bigger. besides draco lost for sccl
ky[Z]
Profile Joined January 2003
China1730 Posts
April 02 2006 00:56 GMT
#5
lol, i doubt it.

For the furture big foreign tournaments, invite more Chinese players (especially super/phoenix) and we will see who's the best foreigner.


Terran is SOoOo over-powered~!! Especially in TvT~!
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
April 02 2006 00:56 GMT
#6
...
Yeah, base your ideas on one tourney, nice.
Best foreing PvZ, now thats for sure.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
April 02 2006 00:57 GMT
#7
Draco > Mondragon > Testie > Draco
;p
And PJ could be thrown in there somewhere, unfortunately none of them are terrans so -.- But his PvP is great too.
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Knickknack
Profile Joined February 2004
United States1187 Posts
April 02 2006 01:01 GMT
#8
meh i dont have a problem saying that draco is argueably best foreign p.

Even if he wasent its his style of play i like most. Learned a lot from him and theres few p players that i woudl rather watch.

Too bad he doesent seem to want to post on the forums...
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Wicked_Monkey
Profile Joined April 2006
Denmark61 Posts
April 02 2006 01:04 GMT
#9
He's best protoss a long with pj and lx, Mondragon best zerg, that super guy is probably best t but dunno.
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NonYold
Profile Joined April 2004
United States2814 Posts
April 02 2006 01:08 GMT
#10
On April 02 2006 09:56 ky[Z] wrote:
lol, i doubt it.

For the furture big foreign tournaments, invite more Chinese players (especially super/phoenix) and we will see who's the best foreigner.




definitely not a chinaman. organizers could invite chinamen so that the players have to put up with laggy games, but at least we could show our superiority!
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
April 02 2006 01:10 GMT
#11
*cough*androide*cough*
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LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
April 02 2006 01:14 GMT
#12
draco is just in shape and mondi is not... draco is A+ pgt, been playing a lot
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Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
April 02 2006 01:14 GMT
#13
imo Draco is better than LX or PJ.
He is imo best foreign P cuz i really dont see anyone close to him.
He is top foreigner too, but i cant say top3/top5 etc.
Testie is best random and race picker.
Mondi is best Z but sen is near ^^
Best T was Androide and i hope he will prove it on this WCG too :-]
Chinese Terrans are v.good too, but most of them have some weak mu, each one other ^^
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Wicked_Monkey
Profile Joined April 2006
Denmark61 Posts
April 02 2006 01:16 GMT
#14
true androide is better, he just seems inactive....
Broodwar and ultima online rocks
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
April 02 2006 01:18 GMT
#15
there is never one top absolute foreigner
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
April 02 2006 01:19 GMT
#16
On April 02 2006 10:18 CultureMisfits wrote:
there is never one top absolute foreigner

same is with koreans ~~
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JiYo
Profile Joined May 2004
28 Posts
April 02 2006 01:20 GMT
#17
He's the best protoss for sure, and he does have the best storms outside korea. Great units control :D.
Raidern
Profile Joined February 2005
Brazil3821 Posts
April 02 2006 01:27 GMT
#18
well I think Mondragon is the best player
the guy just got the final in 3 tournaments: ggl, the ace, tanl, and I think it's still in the loser brackets of tot invite.
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ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
April 02 2006 01:32 GMT
#19
Mondragon is the best foreigner. Recently hes 3-1 advokate in ESL KOTH, 3-0 Odin ESL KOTH, beat Testie very decisively couple times now, won GGL, and hes just rapin it up recently

Draco has won TANL.

I laugh when u say Mondragon isnt in shape
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
April 02 2006 01:44 GMT
#20
On April 02 2006 10:10 Sfydjklm wrote:
*cough*androide*cough*


You gotta stop with that man. Androides "LAN onlyness" really limits the conditions under which we can judge him.

I do however enjoy seeing him place so highly in WCGs though.
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