ZvZ:Breakdown
ZvT: SEn
ZvP: Mondragon/Testie

PvT: PJ by far
PvP: Fisheye/Lx
PvZ: Draco

TvT: Super/a2
TvP: Androide/Lamer/Rushgoon noone really stands out here except Androide@WCG
TvZ: Assem/ret

Musli

Poland5130 Posts

April 02 2006 05:41 GMT

#64

so who is best TvZ nowadays ? :D Mireille ?

Guybrush

Spain4744 Posts

April 02 2006 05:46 GMT

#65

EX is pretty solid in that MU.

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

April 02 2006 05:49 GMT

#66

musli the reason you think theyre overated is probably because the chinese gosus have not played too many europeans yet, but since the chinese super Ts and jaystar joined puls, hopefully that will happen more often. Ret is sooooooooo rusty, but when he was active he was one of the best zvt and tvz. Best foreign TvZ I think phoenix66, i know hes chinese too, blabh ablh

YoUr_KiLLeR

United States3420 Posts

April 02 2006 05:50 GMT

#67

isn't lamer very good at tvz?

and most people have forgotten about fisheye. even though hes pretty inactive now, he always does well when he shows up, always.

craZypivoUseR

Ukraine70 Posts

April 02 2006 05:54 GMT

#68

There is a bunch of players who stand really close to the list of best foriners. 3D.White-Ra is a great example.

-_-

United States7081 Posts

April 02 2006 05:56 GMT

#69

Boaz said comma quote capital give me the wheat ruth period endquote.

Guybrush

Spain4744 Posts

April 02 2006 05:57 GMT

#70

Strelok(Easily among the best TvPers) and Enemy(PvP) too actually, Yan(PvT) too obviously.

Twisted

Netherlands13554 Posts

April 02 2006 05:57 GMT

#71

On April 02 2006 11:12 1tym wrote:

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Not anymore..

Ah ok.. I don't follow progaming =]

fEAthEr

Canada482 Posts

April 02 2006 06:02 GMT

#72

is leggy so out of practice that he not up there +|

k3fka

Argentina1267 Posts

April 02 2006 06:19 GMT

#73

kek , i been watching recently and spawn is at a great level. I mean he dominated pgtous 1st (which imho is a semi pro/ pro) and won vs another guy who had 70-10 record.

Theres an old school tot revival with spawn and the ugliest dutchole strafe playing massive on pgtour.

haduken

Australia8267 Posts

April 02 2006 06:35 GMT

#74

RisingStar aka Ehome.Super is chinese not korean even tho he has a korean flag (because he use proxy) )next to his name on pgtour. He ranked 5th with 60 % win percentage -__-.

Sfydjklm

United States9218 Posts

April 02 2006 06:52 GMT

#75

On April 02 2006 14:36 Guybrush wrote:
TvT: Super/a2

have you seen androide vs control?^^

DaZe

Sweden2111 Posts

April 02 2006 06:54 GMT

#76

dunno who is the best, probably mondi but draco is definitly not the best imo. His PvZ is pure art but I think he lacks in PvT...

rel

Guam3521 Posts

April 02 2006 07:25 GMT

#77

Androides TvP and TvT are fucking phenomenal, kill u ass with misplaced CC's now WAT?

Liquid`Jinro

Sweden33719 Posts

April 02 2006 07:32 GMT

#78

On April 02 2006 15:52 Sfydjklm wrote:

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have you seen androide vs control?^^

Hasn't androide quit? Although I think I did see him online on west a few days ago -...- (the nal clan bot did a /last seen users thing and androide was listed).

Anyway, draco's PvZ is fantastic but his PvT is t_______t

On April 02 2006 14:36 Guybrush wrote:
ZvZ:Breakdown
ZvT: SEn
ZvP: Mondragon/Testie

;;;;;;;
Breakdown isn't very active right now -,-a

PvT: PJ by far
PvP: Fisheye/Lx
PvZ: Draco

PJ is very good at PvP too, maybe even better than an inactive fisheye.

TvT: Super/a2
TvP: Androide/Lamer/Rushgoon noone really stands out here except Androide@WCG
TvZ: Assem/ret

I think Super has pretty nice TvP.. although that might just have been draco's (relatively) bad pvt making it look better than it is.

And why mention so many retired players? Ret is back but not playing a lot, assem is inactive (I think?) and androide has quit.

IdrA

United States11541 Posts

April 02 2006 07:38 GMT

#79

i see assem at least occasionally on west, i dont think hes that inactive.
didnt draco beat pj 2 or 3 -0 pvp in something recently? doesnt mean much but i dont think pj's pvp is that good.