I konw he's done more then making finals of WCG, but it wasn't until he got to finals of WCG until people seriosly started considering him to be one of the best. Compared to what mondi, testie, and draco have managed to do in their time, andriode hasn't accomplished THAT much. Not unless russia has a shit load of huge tournies and such we don't know about.

Musli

Poland5130 Posts

April 02 2006 03:47 GMT

#42

WCG2k4 and WCG2k5 are enough imo ~~

Sfydjklm

United States9218 Posts

April 02 2006 03:49 GMT

#43

4th WCG 2004, 2nd WCG 2005, 2nd ECG 2005
2nd WCG.Ru 2002, 2nd WCG.Ru 2004, 3rd WCG.Ru 2005
Testie and Draco are far behind.
Mondys online accomplishments probably make up the difference in lacking offline titles.

Luhh

Sweden2974 Posts

April 02 2006 03:50 GMT

#44

Seriously, cut this "foreigner" crap already. He's not a fucking gupsy, I'm sure he's a native citizen in his country...

Guybrush

Spain4744 Posts

April 02 2006 03:57 GMT

#45

Androide is too inconsistent. When he plays on the top of his game, like that dropship game on gaia vs legionnaire in wcg, and like vs Silent_Control(pretty much dominance) he's atleast among top 3 maybe the best. Same can be said for Assem though, but neither of these players are playing anymore so it's no use placing them on a "top foreigner" list. Oh and about the topic, cant be answered because there's no one who stands out above everyone else. Picking a top 5-10 is easier, because you can actually base it on accomplishments the past 6 months/year.

ManaBlue

Canada10458 Posts

April 02 2006 04:13 GMT

#46

Again, it's difficult to compare these guys because of timing and such.

All I can say is that it's undenyable that Androide did the best against the pros in WCGs. He beat leg and control both in the final stages of the tournament.

The kid played fucking great the whole time, so you gotta hand it to him.

But again, I'd be very comfortable betting on half of the ToT lineup to beat him in a showmatch.

Take it how you will. Bottom line is there's no way to pick a best player so we shouldn't bother.

rel

Guam3521 Posts

April 02 2006 04:15 GMT

#47

lol, I don't get why everytime someone beats someone else who is WAY MORE accomplished in tournaments, "O HE IS BEST FORIENGER NOW FOR SURE". Cut it the fuck out.

My best foriengers list:

Assem Pj Lx Super Mondragon Testie Draco Advokate

Order isen't important but Im sure the chinese players are better then the europeons+testie, except for maybe assem.

[SvS]Pretty_GG

China86 Posts

April 02 2006 04:28 GMT

#48

draco is best pvz non-kor player.

PvP and PvT not is him.

Musli

Poland5130 Posts

April 02 2006 04:29 GMT

#49

no way dude ^^
Pj is only PvT, im sure that Testie can easily ZvP him, Mondi as we could see too ^^
who is best PvP ? :D

[X]Ken_D

United States4650 Posts

April 02 2006 04:30 GMT

#50

How do you get PJ & LX as better than Europeans+Testie?

They usually lose to Europeans+Testie.

Maybe one day PJ & LX would possibly be the best since they're on a pro team as training dummies

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Guam3521 Posts

April 02 2006 04:35 GMT

#51

well maybe not pj cause he's freaking inconsistant as hell. But Super Lx Hbq...
But most people generalize china as only pj, cause people think he's the best in china lol.

Musli

Poland5130 Posts

April 02 2006 04:36 GMT

#52

cuz he is ^^
HBQ was v.good, but nothing else. Super's TvZ doesnt impress me.

rel

Guam3521 Posts

April 02 2006 04:38 GMT

#53

Personally Lx is way better then PJ, if you watched all of Lx's games from CKCG, he would blow your mind, his skill is insane...

RiSE

United States3182 Posts

April 02 2006 04:41 GMT

#54

Assem...

Sfydjklm

United States9218 Posts

April 02 2006 05:01 GMT

#55

But again, I'd be very comfortable betting on half of the ToT lineup to beat him in a showmatch.

Not because of skill^^

Mr.Testie

973 Posts

April 02 2006 05:18 GMT

#56

True, all because of luck and magical faeries that make Androide lose because he never cares. Then he swears a lot when he loses. But that's only faerie dust and illusions.

IdrA

United States11541 Posts

April 02 2006 05:20 GMT

#57

On April 02 2006 12:50 Luhh wrote:
Seriously, cut this "foreigner" crap already. He's not a fucking gupsy, I'm sure he's a native citizen in his country...

its a generally accepted term used to mean non korean. theyre not saying hes a foreigner of his country.

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

April 02 2006 05:20 GMT

#58

On April 02 2006 11:07 Twisted wrote:
Because most people count Assem as a Korean.

He lives there you know.

hes back in georgia now

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

April 02 2006 05:27 GMT

#59

I believe The.Super should get a mention, He is #5 currently on pgt and does not really have any weak matchups. Assem is still very godly but is semi retired from serious gaming now I think. I believe if Pj didn't have to switch to all P and still counts as a foreigner, he is the best overall because of his TvZ/PvT. Other than that, right now ToT)Sen gets my vote. He's won a lot of important games in the past couple months.

iNsaNe-

Finland5201 Posts

April 02 2006 05:28 GMT

#60

What's the point of this thread, there is no answer and this just seems to bring some arguing here