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rSWisdom[9]
Profile Joined August 2004
United States117 Posts
April 02 2006 07:49 GMT
#81
On April 02 2006 10:14 Musli wrote:
imo Draco is better than LX or PJ.
He is imo best foreign P cuz i really dont see anyone close to him.
He is top foreigner too, but i cant say top3/top5 etc.
Testie is best random and race picker.
Mondi is best Z but sen is near ^^
Best T was Androide and i hope he will prove it on this WCG too :-]
Chinese Terrans are v.good too, but most of them have some weak mu, each one other ^^


polish ppl are always so proud of their own players ;]
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
April 02 2006 08:02 GMT
#82
Im mentioning players that stand out for those particular matchups. Come up with other players that can compare to assem/rets tvz then. Anyways we know rets gonna start playing so I think its totally just to name him even though he isnt that active right now. Breakdowns ZvZ can only be matched by Mondragon, and iNcontroL/Scnibl0r when they're in the zone.

There isnt exactly a wave of P players that has impressed me PvP. Fisheye won Pusan and took a game from Nal_rA. Perfectly just to name him in that MU regardless of activity (he played just over two months ago), and you need to look at results over a reasonable amount of time ie 6 months to 1 year to accurately judge a players current skill level. 6 months ago I had Draco in top 3 PvZ and got laughed at, now everyone is praising him like a god because he finally proved it. When it comes to Androide I just havent seen any foreign terran having sexy vulture control like him, and generally play nonstandard harass micro intensive TvP and winning with it against good Ps. Doesnt mean there arent others who are really good though. I just havent seen anyone that stands out which makes it hard to come up with a certain player. Androide stood out in that MU when he was playing, but Im not gonna argue on it because that's my opinion based on the replays I saw from him in tournaments(not only WCG).

Of course many players arent that active now, because there's basically nothing to practice for. ECG got cancelled WCG prelims are still 3-4 months ahead so meh.

Oh and Supers TvP is pretty solid yes, though I havent seen enough replays of him in that MU(past 4 months) to tell if he's the best.
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ky[Z]
Profile Joined January 2003
China1730 Posts
April 02 2006 08:21 GMT
#83
On April 02 2006 17:02 Guybrush wrote:
Im mentioning players that stand out for those particular matchups. Come up with other players that can compare to assem/rets tvz then. Anyways we know rets gonna start playing so I think its totally just to name him even though he isnt that active right now. Breakdowns ZvZ can only be matched by Mondragon, and iNcontroL/Scnibl0r when they're in the zone.

There isnt exactly a wave of P players that has impressed me PvP. Fisheye won Pusan and took a game from Nal_rA. Perfectly just to name him in that MU regardless of activity (he played just over two months ago), and you need to look at results over a reasonable amount of time ie 6 months to 1 year to accurately judge a players current skill level. 6 months ago I had Draco in top 3 PvZ and got laughed at, now everyone is praising him like a god because he finally proved it. When it comes to Androide I just havent seen any foreign terran having sexy vulture control like him, and generally play nonstandard harass micro intensive TvP and winning with it against good Ps. Doesnt mean there arent others who are really good though. I just havent seen anyone that stands out which makes it hard to come up with a certain player. Androide stood out in that MU when he was playing, but Im not gonna argue on it because that's my opinion based on the replays I saw from him in tournaments(not only WCG).

Of course many players arent that active now, because there's basically nothing to practice for. ECG got cancelled WCG prelims are still 3-4 months ahead so meh.

Oh and Supers TvP is pretty solid yes, though I havent seen enough replays of him in that MU(past 4 months) to tell if he's the best.


I read on yaoyuan that Super will release a rep pack soon featuring most of his PGT games.

hehe that'd be a feast.
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nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
April 02 2006 08:21 GMT
#84
On April 02 2006 16:49 rSWisdom[9] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2006 10:14 Musli wrote:
imo Draco is better than LX or PJ.
He is imo best foreign P cuz i really dont see anyone close to him.
He is top foreigner too, but i cant say top3/top5 etc.
Testie is best random and race picker.
Mondi is best Z but sen is near ^^
Best T was Androide and i hope he will prove it on this WCG too :-]
Chinese Terrans are v.good too, but most of them have some weak mu, each one other ^^



polish ppl are always so proud of their own players ;]

soo..were not supposed to be proud?
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
Sun
Profile Joined March 2006
United States551 Posts
April 02 2006 08:21 GMT
#85
Why does this topic always come up after a tournament? There is no 'ranking system' warrant such a label in our scene. If you aren't pro then you are mediocre at best. Those who think they are invisible better think again. There will always be the same names. Until someone stands up and starts winning every single tournament they enter just drop it.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
April 02 2006 08:44 GMT
#86
On April 02 2006 17:21 nitram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2006 16:49 rSWisdom[9] wrote:
On April 02 2006 10:14 Musli wrote:
imo Draco is better than LX or PJ.
He is imo best foreign P cuz i really dont see anyone close to him.
He is top foreigner too, but i cant say top3/top5 etc.
Testie is best random and race picker.
Mondi is best Z but sen is near ^^
Best T was Androide and i hope he will prove it on this WCG too :-]
Chinese Terrans are v.good too, but most of them have some weak mu, each one other ^^



polish ppl are always so proud of their own players ;]

soo..were not supposed to be proud?

would be nice if it wasnt excessively proud to the point of annoyance.
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1tym
Profile Joined April 2005
Korea (South)2425 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-04-02 09:22:17
April 02 2006 09:17 GMT
#87
On April 02 2006 17:44 HungZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2006 17:21 nitram wrote:
On April 02 2006 16:49 rSWisdom[9] wrote:
On April 02 2006 10:14 Musli wrote:
imo Draco is better than LX or PJ.
He is imo best foreign P cuz i really dont see anyone close to him.
He is top foreigner too, but i cant say top3/top5 etc.
Testie is best random and race picker.
Mondi is best Z but sen is near ^^
Best T was Androide and i hope he will prove it on this WCG too :-]
Chinese Terrans are v.good too, but most of them have some weak mu, each one other ^^



polish ppl are always so proud of their own players ;]

soo..were not supposed to be proud?

would be nice if it wasnt excessively proud to the point of annoyance.


.... like German Dr. Phil?
1tym is one time for your mind
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
April 02 2006 10:18 GMT
#88
oh, he's pretty good i guess
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
miNi
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Korea (South)2010 Posts
April 02 2006 11:00 GMT
#89
He's not the best foreigner, or else he would be playing in Korea.
Pj and Lx however, are good enough to have been scouted by SK Telecom and are doing very well against some high-leveled Korean amateurs. Pj 2-0'ed quite a few recently.
PaeZ
Profile Joined April 2005
Mexico1627 Posts
April 02 2006 11:03 GMT
#90
having a top1 in this game is almost impossible because draco may own right now but in 2 months or so he will slump, besides testie did raped zvp, and mondi raped testie, and pj imo is pretty incosistent, because i just cant believe a guy with so many training in korea cant do what draco, testie, mondi and even assem did, but W/e
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
April 02 2006 11:07 GMT
#91
Draco is good, but there's not enough ground to call him "best foreigner."
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
April 02 2006 11:11 GMT
#92
On April 02 2006 20:03 PaeZ wrote:
having a top1 in this game is almost impossible because draco may own right now but in 2 months or so he will slump, besides testie did raped zvp, and mondi raped testie, and pj imo is pretty incosistent, because i just cant believe a guy with so many training in korea cant do what draco, testie, mondi and even assem did, but W/e


dont say top 1.

top is plural.

Ill fix one person at a time.
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
April 02 2006 11:14 GMT
#93
On April 02 2006 20:00 miNi wrote:
He's not the best foreigner, or else he would be playing in Korea.
Pj and Lx however, are good enough to have been scouted by SK Telecom and are doing very well against some high-leveled Korean amateurs. Pj 2-0'ed quite a few recently.

bad reasoning. skill is far from the only determining factor in going to korea, especially in the case of pj/lx.
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Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
April 02 2006 11:15 GMT
#94
On April 02 2006 13:36 Musli wrote:
cuz he is ^^
HBQ was v.good, but nothing else. Super's TvZ doesnt impress me.


Obviously you didn't seem him tear apart Siva in CKCG. He demonstrated a level of micro/macro that goes unseen in the European/American scene. I can name only one person outside of Asia who has that macro in TvZ, and only a few names with that micro.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
April 02 2006 11:31 GMT
#95
who, ret?
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ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
April 02 2006 11:40 GMT
#96
Super is pretty good tho. imo he should be in Korea. Lx just got to go to korea cuz he dt dropped and got lucky.
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ky[Z]
Profile Joined January 2003
China1730 Posts
April 02 2006 11:51 GMT
#97
On April 02 2006 20:40 YoiChiBow wrote:
Super is pretty good tho. imo he should be in Korea. Lx just got to go to korea cuz he dt dropped and got lucky.


He will probaly get picked up by a pro-team after this year's China-Korea CEG type of tournament.
Terran is SOoOo over-powered~!! Especially in TvT~!
EtErNaLAeOn
Profile Joined February 2006
Germany214 Posts
April 02 2006 12:13 GMT
#98
There is no best foreigner - they can all beat each other.
b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
April 02 2006 12:20 GMT
#99
i thought draco's best MU is PvT
CoralReefer
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada2069 Posts
April 02 2006 12:35 GMT
#100
pj will have good pvz in time. his pvz has already become a lot better since he went to korea.

i don't see much talent in lx though. i think he will be one of those players who must rely on risky builds to win.
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