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On October 30 2012 02:22 gonzaw wrote: /replacement Okay, off to watch the whole 5 seasons of WLIIA? http://www.whoselineonline.org | ||
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On October 31 2012 05:17 syllogism wrote: You clearly don't know anything about the subject. Whether the hype was justified or not, and by the way good luck finding a meteorologist who didn't agree with the hype, it was a very unique system and did billions and billions worth of damage. Being from south Louisiana, I would say I am fairly familiar with hurricanes. Sandy was mostly only "unique" in the time of the year and location it hit. It seemed to have basically the same winds/size/surge/etc as Isaac 2 months ago (Although I think it was moving faster, so maybe didn't dump quite as much precipitation? I think I heard we got something like 25 inches here during Isaac because of how it stalled out so much). The key difference, of course, is that it hit one of the most densely populated areas of the country, and one of the most important cities in the world. Anyways, I hope all our fellow TL'ers are okay. Hurricanes suck, no matter what the situation is. | ||
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On October 31 2012 06:13 Blazinghand wrote: I mean, for what it's worth saying that Sandy is a normal hurricane in a weird place, while accurate, doesn't capture the enormity of what it is. Like, if Hurricane Sandy hit in Idaho there'd be massive property damage because Idaho is not a place that is prepared for hurricanes like, say, Florida is. Hurricanes of that strength and ferocity may hit certain areas with regularity, but NY is not one of those places-- it usually only sees storms like this once every 20+ years. As a result, a lot of damage happens. The media hyped it up, but it's still a dangerous thing, and the fact that other places encounter this more often (places that deal with it regularly and are not as densely populated) is somewhat of a non sequitur. Right, that was basically my point. I think we can all agree that Katrina was a terrible storm. However, Katrina hitting New York could have been the worst natural disaster in the history of the US. Sandy's devastation comes from the area it hit, rather than the storm itself being super terrible. Any hurricane is bad news if its makes landfall at hurricane strength. <3 to you northeasterners. I hope everyone is safe. I know what its like. | ||
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On October 31 2012 09:07 Blazinghand wrote: Don't worry about spelling, as long as you start with the right letter you're following the rule, right?` Ebviously. | ||
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On October 31 2012 09:12 Chezinu wrote: First time, I have you a warning. Going to have to do something worse this time.., Hopefully nothing too serious. I can't really help it that I got ninjad. Just know ill be working harder to not screw it up now. | ||
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On October 31 2012 09:17 iGrok wrote: Kill me . Lol i messed it up but im a host so who cares! Mistakes that happen mid-post mean that the next poster just continues on as if the post was correct Ninjas suck, eh? Oh well. Probably a good rule. Quick question: does "EBWOP:" count as the start of a sentence for post restriction purposes? | ||
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On October 31 2012 12:44 Crossfire99 wrote: Gosh, what have we here? How have you not posted on what has happened so far? I seem to remember the talkative little townie in Aperature that wasn't afraid to comment on anything. Keirathi was enjoying some Diablo 3 with a buddy. Looking back over the posts since I chimed it, it doesn't look like theres really a whole lot to comment on. Maybe its just me, but while this posting restriction is very entertaining, its quite hard to say exactly what you mean. | ||
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On October 31 2012 13:16 Adam4167 wrote: EH, now that my hour long self imposed suspension is over for forgetting the letter H in my previous post. Far back on page 6, Broodking, you said you hated people that go back on their word - who has done this and why did it need to be said? Given my ample free time, I examined your 'meta' Broodking. Having never used a pressure OR joke vote before in early D1. I am curious as to why you have decided to pick this game to change your style. Just at a quick glance, your first vote in your previous seven games has always come after the construction of a paragraph or longer case. Now, the real question is: was he scum in any of those games? Obviously, if he wasn't, then maybe you have a leg to stand on, but if he was scum and did the same thing, then you're grasping at straws and changing his playstyle from his scum and town meta both is a 100% null tell. | ||
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On October 31 2012 13:55 Adam4167 wrote: Perhaps click on his profile and check for yourself? Quite simple really. Red he has never been. Sure, I could have checked myself, but you already did the research Totally easier to just ask you to share. | ||
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Now, I did comment on the BKE thing. On its own, its not particularly scummy. Particularly, though, the fact that he hasn't done any kind of early pressure vote in any of his last 7 town games is a bit weird. Still, even then I only think its minorly scummy and would never be enough to make me vote him. | ||
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Either way, though, I am not blue | ||
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On November 01 2012 06:55 Blazinghand wrote: Crossfire, I have no issues with you personally. I don't currently think you're scum. You just need to get your act together. You do realize that posting a massive wall of illegible garbage HURTS town, right? That the reason Mementoss is voting you, even though he thinks you have a good chance of flipping town, is that he literally can't understand what you're saying? As an aside, my posts might not follow the alphabet rule, but i have the correct time between them, and by being clear when I'm not playing along, I'm infinitely more respectful to the spirit of the game than guys who slap letters at the start of their posts. But that' s not even the point. My role PM doesn't say that my job is to earn points in minigames; my Role PM doesn't say that my job is to play in the spirit of WLIIA; my role PM, and your role PMs, if you are town, says you win when all the scum are dead. I will not water down my analysis and play against my win con, and neither should you. The spirit of this game is lynching scum. Anything less than trying your hardest to win is not appropriate. When this can fit into alphabetical order and get the point across, I'll gladly do it. And when it won't, I will, within the guidelines set out in the OPs, not follow the alphabetical order. More specifically regarding your critique of my Adam case, you're missing the point again. Adam does eventually get confrontational (and FourFace was an unbelievably, immeasurably bad player who I believe got banned or something), but as scum he is more cautious. He probes first, then leaps. He is playing with his scum mindset this game, or at least he was while he was still posting in the thread. Look at his opening posts-- the questions, the lack of a commitment, and most importantly the lack of a case and a vote-- this is how he plays as scum. gonzaw-- I'm willing to buy that you did in fact read my post, just not very carefully. I don't know how this seems to be dogmatically in favor of using the 1-hour wait method at all times or the rhyming method at all times. You should read my posts more clearly and think a bit harder about the game. Part of the reason I'm on your ass is that you're not playing like you normally do. This focus from you, and the lack of serious pressure on multiple targets, that's not like you. The gonzaw I know, when he plays town, has fullisades of questions for everyone. Why just this one Keirathi case? Where's your usual constant interrogation and probing of everyone in the town? I remember your posts as being kinda annoying and having formatting issues, and maybe being unfocused, but also being unrelenting in their pressure on multiple targets. What gives? By the way, Mementoss, if your reasoning for voting Crossfire is entirely that he is hard to understand, that's fine, but bear in mind you're basically lynching him for being bad and playing anti-town, but not necessarily for playing like scum. I personally read him as a confused townie who doesn't understand he needs to play to his wincon. He'll shape up. He's not a terrible D1 lynch, but honestly if it comes down to it and nobody wants to go for Adam, I'd rather policy one of these inactive guys than do what's essentially a policy lynch on Crossfire for being illegible. Too many posts not following alphabet guidelines, so I'm not sure what letter we're on. But BH: why so willing to comment on basically everything else except gonzaws points about me? | ||
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On October 31 2012 23:13 Mementoss wrote: Nooooo chezinu ninjad me good thing I checked, I cant do the alphabet very well I have to say it completely out all the time lol. Oh, I agree with that fact that purposely fucking up is scummy because it gives you a free pass not to post, however, BKE seemed to be not understanding the rules at first, and the second time the posts were 3 min apart so its possible for ninja post. Poop, just to clarify this doesn't excuse his ridiuclous joke vote/call out on a "scum slip", it seemed like a desperate attempt to put fault on someone, but he fucked up with the rules. Qonsequently BKE, so far is the only player that stands out to me as somewhat scummy. Reading chezinus last post, I still don't agree with the mass claim idea. Sit will still end up with everyone claiming audience memebers. Tangerine, chezinu, why do you feeld it was nessecary to give the player list :S ? On November 01 2012 06:08 Mementoss wrote: Going to gym, fuck the rules. Only got 5 minutes but would like to comment on a few things. The above is your case against Adam right? I don't consider it the strongest case, as you above seem pretty confident in it, but the fact that he hasn't been back to contribute is pretty un easing. leaning scummy on him right now. I half agree to what you say about crossfire too blazinghand. His posts were unreadable thats for sure. I had to re-read several paragraphs 3 times before I even understood what the point was, and then it didn't even deliverable the point well -_-. This is more likely xfire posting as town because he was being ridiculous, but I also think there is a possibility he started posting these long unreadable fluffy statements, so that maybe someone else would follow his ridiculous posting style and muck up the town completely. Thats scum intereference. Also, he actually looks to the non-reader, that he is contributing more than most, when really, hes more interested in literary skills and looking town, than actually finding scum. ATM I would be happy to vote either Xfire or BKE, (which I stated earlier why I thought his fake joke stuff seemed scummy, while his purposely?? getting restrictions wasn't liekly scummy), could go for Adam too, but I would rather wait for him to come into the thread again before doing that. Gunna lay down a vote Xfire atm. Need to re-read the thread and consider all the options, I have been either asleep or at work for this whole thread thus far. ##Vote Crossfire Xtremely weird change of opinion, there. You go from saying its scummy to blatantly not follow the alphabet rules, to doing it yourself without any indication why you suddenly don't care anymore. Zero sense does that make. | ||
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On November 01 2012 06:55 Blazinghand wrote: gonzaw-- I'm willing to buy that you did in fact read my post, just not very carefully. I don't know how this seems to be dogmatically in favor of using the 1-hour wait method at all times or the rhyming method at all times. You should read my posts more clearly and think a bit harder about the game. Part of the reason I'm on your ass is that you're not playing like you normally do. This focus from you, and the lack of serious pressure on multiple targets, that's not like you. The gonzaw I know, when he plays town, has fullisades of questions for everyone. Why just this one Keirathi case? Where's your usual constant interrogation and probing of everyone in the town? I remember your posts as being kinda annoying and having formatting issues, and maybe being unfocused, but also being unrelenting in their pressure on multiple targets. What gives? Forgive me for not commenting on this sooner sooner, but I just now had the available time to do the research. Go back and look at Aperture 2. He literally made a case/accusation against EVERY SINGLE PLAYER day 1. Its just such a huge disconnect from "everyone is scummy, lets question/accuse them!" to "well, this one guy is kinda scummy because he hasn't posted as much as I expect him to". Just my opinion, but this doesn't really fit the town gonzaw that I remember either. | ||
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Part 1) I'm not spreading accusations subtly. When I'm asking a question to something like your unexplained change in opinion, or Chezinu calling for a mass blue claim, its because I find them scummy. The point is to get a response to judge if the response is genuine. Everyone occasionally says things that can be taken as scummy, even as town. The key isn't to jump on hte mistake, its to ask why the mistake happened and try to figure out if they're lying. I never pushed more on the Chezinu thing because I don't think Chezinu is going to get lynched today for calling for a mass blue claim. Apparently "It's Chezinu, just ignore him" from other players is a good enough defense. Whatever. About BKE: it doesn't give me an out if he flips red. I quite clearly said I don't think a minorly scummy thing is enough for ME to vote for him. If he flips red, I fulyl expect to get pressured for that. I take full responsibility for everything I say. Part 2) *EVERY* game you've played with me? So...just Liquid City and Aperture 2? Two games that were going on at the exact same time and I had vastly different playstyles and time commitments. Hell, the ONLY thing I did in LC on day 1 was yell at kush a bunch, and throw some weak arguments onto kingjames, then afk for 24+ hours. Part 3) I wouldn't say I'm necessarily active lurking. I've just only been commenting on things that I feel are worth commenting on. And, maybe its an "excuse" but TL was down for half of the day yesterday for me. So meh, whatever. | ||
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Current (unofficial) vote count: Mementoss (3) - Chezinu, Adam, BKE BKE (2) - Hopeless, S&B Keirathi (2) - gonzaw, Mementoss Adam4167 (1) - Blazinghand Not Voting: Keirathi, Djsingalong, Crossfire I'll talk a bit about each of the candidates: BKE The more BKE posts about his joke vote and TL being down (which, even if the timing doesn't line up with twitter, doesn't really mean anything. I was getting 502's yesterday for 5 hours straight, and when I finally got TL to load again, there were posts that I had missed), and voting pet peeves, or whatever, the more suspicious of him I get. Because that's literally all that he has been talking about. His case and vote on Mementoss was pretty boggling and doesn't really make any sense. Why would he not unvote someone when he has a stronger scum read on someone else? Feels like BKE is just grasping at straws for a reason to move his vote onto someone that has more momentum (and actually put them in the lead to be lynched). Right now, I'm leaning pretty heavily towards a BKE lynch. Mementoss I'm still a little hung up on Mementoss changing his opinion on whether its scummy to break character or not. I feel like it was a bit of "say/do whatever the thread thinks is good!" to buy himself some...well, not really town cred, but just doing whatever other townies are doing so that he doesn't stick out. However, two of the three votes on him are extremely weak (Adam's does at least have some reasonable explanations, even if there are some bad justifications thrown in too (the Djsingalong stuff)), and I'm pretty hesitant to pile on top of them. Chez's vote with no explanation whatsoever, and BKE with a terrible explanation. I'll keep watching Mementoss, but I don't think he should be lynched today. Adam I'm not conviced my Blazinghand's cherry picked meta case, but his point about only taking a single stance via the mementoss case was valid. I don't think Adam is our best choice of lynch today though. If he continues to stay disinterested and passive, then we can talk again. Basically, the only person I would be willing to vote for aside from BKE at this point is gonzaw. BH pointed it out, but gonzaw tunneling one player all day without questioning/attacking/etc other people just isn't gonzaw's town meta. Reminds me a bit of Liar Game, honestly, where he spent so much time working on/sticking to the "plan", while tunneling Cephiro. Take a look at his filters here for Liar Game and here for Aperture 2. Notice how much more time he spends in Aperture 2 being suspicious of EVERYONE until he gets a firm town read on them. That doesn't feel like what he's doing here. @Chezinu/Djsingalong: Where are you guys? Seriously this is pretty ridiculous. Okay, I have an hour timeout now. Hopefully there will be some good discussion and consolidation before I get back. | ||
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