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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 18:00:52
September 28 2012 17:59 GMT
#19
/in

:3
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 29 2012 22:24 GMT
#39
On September 30 2012 07:22 GreYMisT wrote:
Game start delayed by 1 hour. Sorry for the delay

##vote: GreYMisT
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 29 2012 23:35 GMT
#44
Alright lets do this leeerrroooyy...

anyway i am town and actually intend to put a lot of effort and thought into this game.

I feel that the only person I havent played with(?) or atleast recognize them is crossfire99.

I will be reading up on him(her?) game history now
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 30 2012 00:30 GMT
#52
I finished reading crossfire and eating dinner

someone that has played in the past aperture game, what was crucial to town winning?

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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 30 2012 00:33 GMT
#53
also i will be away from my computer for around 45 minutes. lets get discussion started?

any thoughts to possible scum/town breakdowns? 10/3 9/4 9/2/2?
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 30 2012 01:43 GMT
#61
? Why austin.

And i forgot about 3rd party so yeah that's possible too

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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 30 2012 01:47 GMT
#64
On September 30 2012 10:44 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 10:43 Mattchew wrote:
? Why austin.

And i forgot about 3rd party so yeah that's possible too


Because there's no need to say "mafia/2 rounded up" if there are only 2 mafia. It'd always be 1 KP.

It allows for either to be possible...
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 30 2012 03:28 GMT
#74
On September 30 2012 11:21 Keirathi wrote:
So lets get this game really started:

Mattchew

I'm sure he has some town games somewhere in his filter, but every game I've seen him play in recent memory he's been scum (I Can't Believe Its Not Themed, DBZ, LVII). So what has he done this game?

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On September 30 2012 08:35 Mattchew wrote:
Alright lets do this leeerrroooyy...

anyway i am town and actually intend to put a lot of effort and thought into this game.

I feel that the only person I havent played with(?) or atleast recognize them is crossfire99.

I will be reading up on him(her?) game history now

Claimed town.

fluff

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On September 30 2012 09:30 Mattchew wrote:
I finished reading crossfire and eating dinner

someone that has played in the past aperture game, what was crucial to town winning?


Made sure we knew that he was town again.

no, asked a question about a previous town, because they won in the first version of this themed game. It was a real question because its a super big long and complex game that I don't feel like reading. I wanted to know if I should be expecting a game based more on roles and abilities.


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On September 30 2012 09:33 Mattchew wrote:
also i will be away from my computer for around 45 minutes. lets get discussion started?

any thoughts to possible scum/town breakdowns? 10/3 9/4 9/2/2?

Started some pointless setup talk that hasn't actually generated useful discussion. I don't see any way that speculating on scum team/third party numbers is working towards finding scum. It's just bullshit to fill up the thread, and everyone regardless of alignment can reasonably comment on it.

So yea, I'm thinking Mattchew rolled scum yet again.

##Vote: Mattchew

The question I asked was not meant to be the discussion point but does serve its purpose because if we are up against 2 teams of 2 scum will play extremely different than if they were all on 1 team.

Keirathi, I need to look into you more as well... do you have any games as scum?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 30 2012 03:49 GMT
#77
ah thats where i remember you from... kk

i think you play a little funny... my initial reaction was to call you scum because I feel like that case on me felt really forced but after looking at some of your previous play you seem way more careful than that as scum in gsl... I believe your case is now just bad, based on logic from a newbie game. I still use early game scum hunting tactics similar to what you did which is why I took my response seriously.

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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 30 2012 05:37 GMT
#95
i also thought keirathi's sudden turnaround strange. i am trying to figure out if it was bad town play or nervous scum/3rd party play
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 30 2012 05:54 GMT
#99
On September 30 2012 13:01 Keirathi wrote:
Of course my case is bad. I certainly don't think you are scum for something so...inconsequential. But this thread needed to move past setup speculation and into people giving real, meaningful opinions and thoughts that they can be held accountable for. Although, I was hoping that other people would weigh in on it before you responded

##Unovte

For completeness sake, though, I did go back through all of your games up to Movie Star, and the only pattern was that you seem to claim town if you get into the thread early, and otherwise say you are catching up and reading the thread in your first post

you admit your case is bad, which lacks confidence and is passive.

if this was a plan, I don't see the town benefit by revealing it so quickly, and I don't see the town benefit to letting it play out either. Its easy to say you wanted to promote non-setup discussion; but if you were leading a discussion based off of admittedly bad logic that is just as bad for town if not worse because of the alignment implications. By revealing your hand so quickly you didn't allow for the discussion to shift. its super easy to now say told ya so, but in reality you didn't know where discussion would head when you admitted your plan.

also, you used a lot of smiley faces in your passive post making it even more passive and scummy
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 30 2012 14:55 GMT
#106
well this is slow
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 30 2012 20:48 GMT
#135
On October 01 2012 05:38 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 05:20 gonzaw wrote:
EBWOP:

Also, I hope nobody will have the nerve of calling me hypocrite and vote me because of "me doing the same thing JingleHell is doing" or some shit like that.

I'm going to study for my test, but I'll be around, so I'll answer any questions you guys have and try to be here and not just disappear.


Oh, so you acknowledge that your "case" against me would work similarly against yourself? Good, I'll just ignore you. If it was somehow ambiguous, I found Draz suspicious in that he seemed to have just assumed a specific subset of non-town for Keirathi.

Generally, if I see something as anti-town, I don't go saying "Oh, he must be third party". Why? Because scum is anti-town. Making a faction based guess, especially in a closed setup, beyond saying "X is acting anti-town" sounds like you're privy to some knowledge about factions, and it's probably a little early for that.

insta-delurk.

actively lurking is cool

##vote: JingleHell
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 01 2012 13:51 GMT
#202
Just woke up when I get home I'll post thoughts I'm reading on my phone now
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 01 2012 15:39 GMT
#223
gonna hop right back into the thread with some analysis

I believe iamperfection is scum and I would like everyone to click on his filter

On October 01 2012 05:43 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 04:22 ghost_403 wrote:
I'm pretty happy lynching Keirathi right now. He's putting way too much effort into scumhunting on Day 1 to build up towncred. Looking through previous filters when there's been, what, twenty posts in this game? No, that's not something that townies do. I vote we lynch him today, and mementoss tomorrow. WHO'S WITH ME.

##vote keirathi

We are seriously going to allow this crap? Ive played about 6 games of tl mafia and this is the biggest pile of crap ive seen yet.

## Vote ghost_403

This post clearly mis-reads what ghost is trying to say and jumps on him with a hyperbole and what feels like a very fake sense of confidence. The way this post is worded is not as much anger as much as it reads "grab your pitchforks and bandwagon with me"

After this, his teeth are sunk into ghost, and he is afraid to move. He also has failed to comment on literally anyone else in the thread. His reasoning is bad, his contributions are next to nothing.

Honestly I don't think anything more needs to be written. Enough time has past for iamperfection to comment on other players, or contribute to actual discussion. His reasoning for pushing a ghost lynch is bad and grasping at straws.

##unvote
##vote Iamperfection





S&B is probably not scum because he is confused on his read on me but has a direction on the basis of that.

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 01 2012 04:43 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 04:40 ghost_403 wrote:
Alright, Hiro, so who do you think we should be lynching today? So far, all you've done in this game is setup speculation (a big no-no), and what else?


no one in particular right now.

On October 01 2012 04:46 ghost_403 wrote:
Hiro goes on my town list because no anti-town faction would be dumb enough to say that.

Still wanna lynch Keirathi.

Ghost is correct in this response. Scum would probably make an excuse or pull a read out of their hat. Hiro is too confident in his statement to be scum imo.

Also, I dont find anything scummy about ghost's play. He wasn't saying that keirathi was trying too hard overall, he said keirathi was forcing effort in order to look townie. Huge difference.

I am heavily underwhelmed by crossfire's play.

Jinglehell I dont want dead as bad as I did before. His actively lurking and woe is me attitude dont give me good feelings, however he is explaining his thought process pretty thoroughly which is really hard to do as scum. I am not getting a filtered or nervous feeling (of him writing his thoughts) from his posting.

Keirathi is another person of interest still. I think austin did a very good job pointing out the inconsistencies in his said-plan and his actual actions.

There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 01 2012 15:40 GMT
#225
On October 01 2012 23:45 Drazerk wrote:
If we don't lynch S+B my next target would probably be JH because I just hate the wounded survivor act but its not really telling of alignment.

I would like you to completely drop S&B from your vocab until tomorrow and literally forget he is in the game. I think this will improve your play and allow you to look at the game better.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 01 2012 16:15 GMT
#231
austin why arent you voting iamperfection with me?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 01 2012 16:21 GMT
#236
On October 02 2012 01:18 Mementoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2012 01:15 Mattchew wrote:
austin why arent you voting iamperfection with me?


thoughts on Nisani and Jinglehell?

gave thoughts on JH,

no thoughts on nisani
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 01 2012 16:38 GMT
#242
Keirathi explain to me why you want to lynch ghost
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 01 2012 16:38 GMT
#243
and austin talk to me
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