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On September 17 2012 20:58 marvellosity wrote: Before this starts - gonna try to be somewhat less posty and more thinky this game. Let's see if I succeed. making excuses for not posting already, scum right here | ||
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On September 18 2012 06:07 prplhz wrote: hey guys please no unnecessary bullshit it's perfectly possible to play the game without that and it only serves to make the game harder to read there are a couple of people around i have no idea who is, can anybody explain to me who mkfuba07 is? well this is a lie already, what is it with people lieing on there first post? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874 You hosted a game he was in. More MKFUBA games if you want + Show Spoiler + | ||
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On September 18 2012 06:28 prplhz wrote: their* So I am lying or what? I mean, I am not lying unless you think I am perfectly aware who mkfuba07 is yet claims not to be, is that the case? Maybe you can actually explain to me who he is instead of coming up with a silly list that's readily available to me as well if I just go into his profile. I can do that on my own thank you very much. Thanks for the grammar lesson. Yes, I think if you hosted a game with the player was in it you would have an idea who he was. You asked about him clearly stating `there are a couple of people around i have no idea who is` in reference to MKfuba. Well, you sure made it seem like you were too lazy to find anything about him since you asked the thread about him. The only game I played with him was deathnote, he was active enough, but just seemed to sheep and not lead his own cases. Mostly a commentator. | ||
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On September 18 2012 06:32 iamperfection wrote: I randomly suggest a lynch of Marvelosity. Your guys thoughts? Well you have no basis right now to think he``s scum, so how does this idea make any sense. Town wins by killing all the scum. | ||
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On September 18 2012 06:40 Hapahauli wrote: Show nested quote + On September 18 2012 06:32 iamperfection wrote: I randomly suggest a lynch of Marvelosity. Your guys thoughts? Policy lynching one of the best town players day 1 =/= good idea. Like I'm all for policy lynching marv if he's alive past Night 3 (he's basically an auto N1/N2 NK for mafia if he's town), but that's about it. I propose a less-randomly decided lynch against iamperfection. Thoughts? These are the kinda thoughts you keep in your head. Mafia purposely keeps marv alive, for a totally WIFOM, end game cause of what you said. Explain why you think iamperfection is mafia because of that post. No random lynches. | ||
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On September 18 2012 06:50 Blazinghand wrote: Hey pudding-munchers stop arguing about that and read my case I read it. It seems like you played with him alot and can really differentiate between his scum and town. It's not the most for sure case of all time, but the post felt scummy to me as soon as I read it and even moreso when I realized he hosted a game with MKfuba in it. He's the scummiest player so far. Iamperfection seems like noobie, why would mafia out themselves like that, also I think he is bitter because of his history with marv. ##vote: prplhz Blazinghand what do you think of hapa immediately coming to prplhz defence? + Show Spoiler + On September 18 2012 06:35 Hapahauli wrote: Hai gais! Good to be back in a mini so I can actually keep track of people more closely =) Show nested quote + On September 18 2012 06:21 Mementoss wrote: On September 18 2012 06:07 prplhz wrote: hey guys please no unnecessary bullshit it's perfectly possible to play the game without that and it only serves to make the game harder to read there are a couple of people around i have no idea who is, can anybody explain to me who mkfuba07 is? well this is a lie already, what is it with people lieing on there first post? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874 You hosted a game he was in. More MKFUBA games if you want + Show Spoiler + Prplhz isn't exactly the most attentive host... I was in that game, and he basically forgot to make the last nightpost for a couple of hours. I wouldn't expect him to remember half the players in that game tbh =P Also what do you think of this clear contradiction from prplhz: + Show Spoiler + On September 18 2012 06:07 prplhz wrote: hey guys please no unnecessary bullshit it's perfectly possible to play the game without that and it only serves to make the game harder to read there are a couple of people around i have no idea who is, can anybody explain to me who mkfuba07 is? On September 18 2012 06:08 prplhz wrote: Show nested quote + On September 18 2012 06:07 Mementoss wrote: I think day one should be discussing what da bands name is gunna be name my band | ||
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On September 18 2012 06:55 austinmcc wrote: Show nested quote + <3 everyone at all, but you need to look further. He's generally not being killed off for supersexy scumhunting, but because he comes off as very townie and is generating a lot of discussion/activity from others. His early reads, although I haven't read recent games, are not generally a big threat to mafia.On September 18 2012 06:50 Hapahauli wrote: If mafia would like to keep hypothetical townie-marv alive to the endgame because of my "policy lynch," then awesome! Mission accomplished! Though in all seriousness, I've read through quite a few of his recent games. He never lives as town past N3 (barring Mad Men Mafia where he was a replacement) in his recent games. If he's alive a long time, there's a very high chance (IMO basically guaranteed chance) of him flipping red. Show nested quote + On September 18 2012 06:50 Blazinghand wrote: Hey pudding-munchers stop arguing about that and read my case I don't know how anyone can munch on pudding. I DO kind of like that observation. It feels almost TOO obvious but...man it's kind of damning. TOO obvious, as in more obvious than Mattchew in LVII? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=361826¤tpage=14#261 Nothing, can be TOO obvious. Thats like saying you don't think someone is scum, because there TOO scummy. Stop waffling, either you think its scummy or you think its not. Don't say things like "kind of like" and "TOO obvious but damning", your all over the place bro. | ||
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On September 18 2012 07:07 Blazinghand wrote: Show nested quote + On September 18 2012 07:04 Hapahauli wrote: ... or it's not obvious at all, and it's a typical bad D1 case making insane meta connections with barely any samplesize? If you're pressuring him or whatever, cool, but the case is in no way "damning" or "TOO obvious." In fact, I'd expect scum to be the people most willing to be jumping on BH's case without so much as a thought. Namely austinmcc and mementoss I literally sampled every game he's played in the last 3 months. If you think he's so damn town either argue from this dataset, or increase it, or present another case. I do, however, agree with you that scum may try to bus him. Dudes jumping on his case without explanations as townies are A) letting scum do the same thing and skate by and B) setting themselves up for mislynches. If you have a reason to be for or against his lynch, STATE IT. As town you should have no reason to fear thinking openly and logically. Hapa is right (on this particular issue). I did explain it, I found his first post scummy and your case was just some icing on the scum. It's literally an hour in the game, there is no such thing as voting too early. If anything it's going to generate more discussion that can be looked into more later. But I agree on austinmcc being hard to tell what hes getting at as I pointed out, which seems scummy as he usually is very articulate in his posts and has a clear meaning for posting them. | ||
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On September 18 2012 07:46 Hapahauli wrote: Alas! Austinmcc is at work so we won't be hearing from him for a while. One other post did catch my eye though: Show nested quote + On September 18 2012 07:12 Mementoss wrote: On September 18 2012 07:07 Blazinghand wrote: On September 18 2012 07:04 Hapahauli wrote: ... or it's not obvious at all, and it's a typical bad D1 case making insane meta connections with barely any samplesize? If you're pressuring him or whatever, cool, but the case is in no way "damning" or "TOO obvious." In fact, I'd expect scum to be the people most willing to be jumping on BH's case without so much as a thought. Namely austinmcc and mementoss I literally sampled every game he's played in the last 3 months. If you think he's so damn town either argue from this dataset, or increase it, or present another case. I do, however, agree with you that scum may try to bus him. Dudes jumping on his case without explanations as townies are A) letting scum do the same thing and skate by and B) setting themselves up for mislynches. If you have a reason to be for or against his lynch, STATE IT. As town you should have no reason to fear thinking openly and logically. Hapa is right (on this particular issue). I did explain it, I found his first post scummy and your case was just some icing on the scum. 1 It's literally an hour in the game, there is no such thing as voting too early.2 If anything it's going to generate more discussion that can be looked into more later.3 But I agree on austinmcc being hard to tell what hes getting at as I pointed out, which seems scummy as he usually is very articulate in his posts and has a clear meaning for posting them. 4 Holy wishy-washy post batman! Let's follow the logic: 1) First post is scummy and case makes prplhz scummier! 2) No such thing as voting too early! (errr... where did that come from? making excuses already?) 3) But eh... it will generate discussion and we'll look more into it later. (oh? thought prplhz was very scummy to you? awfully passive for such a strong read on him) 4) Holy freggin wishy-washy opinion on austinmcc. 1) Yeah first post was scummy and it fits the meta analysis aka best case atm. How is accusing people scummy? 2) I said no such thing as voting too early is because a lot of people think they have to wait till last minute to vote especially on day 1, and usually a bad consolidation happens. Voting earlier will just bring up more cases throughout the day. 3) Nothing to do with one another. 4) How is calling someone scummy wishy washy. I don't follow your logic. But I guess it's your thing to jump on me day 1s lol. | ||
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On September 18 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote: you case on prplhz is shit. a fucking meta case on 1 post come on. Although i dont think that was the point of your case i think the purpose was to drive discussion which it has done. Kudos to you. The purpose of my random lynch was an attempt to drive some discussion. I had already discussed with marv after my previous game in which palmar suggested a random lynch in order to drive discussion on day 1. Thats why i find it extremely wierd that marv didnt think it was random when i had already spoken with him that i would do it in my next game. Show nested quote + On September 18 2012 06:46 marvellosity wrote: P.S the whole point is that iamp's suggestion wasn't random, so we already have a liar. LAL? I say we respect his wishes. ## Vote Marvelosity Well, that means it isn't random because it was pre-meditated and thought out. Sooo, yeah. | ||
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On September 18 2012 09:37 iamperfection wrote: Show nested quote + On September 18 2012 09:36 Mementoss wrote: On September 18 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote: you case on prplhz is shit. a fucking meta case on 1 post come on. Although i dont think that was the point of your case i think the purpose was to drive discussion which it has done. Kudos to you. The purpose of my random lynch was an attempt to drive some discussion. I had already discussed with marv after my previous game in which palmar suggested a random lynch in order to drive discussion on day 1. Thats why i find it extremely wierd that marv didnt think it was random when i had already spoken with him that i would do it in my next game. On September 18 2012 06:46 marvellosity wrote: P.S the whole point is that iamp's suggestion wasn't random, so we already have a liar. LAL? I say we respect his wishes. ## Vote Marvelosity Well, that means it isn't random because it was pre-meditated and thought out. Sooo, yeah. Believe it or not it did randomly come out as marv. oh I thought your meant you told marv you would be voting for him specifically in the next game. | ||
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On September 18 2012 09:54 Hapahauli wrote: Well tbh, you could make that entire chart red - I lynched goodkarma in one game because I thought his play was "too clean" =P But back to iamperfection, I'm definitely leaning scummy to him for now. I can't yet discount him just being plain pissed that you voted for him (a townie OMGUS type thing), but the sudden severity of it all is just really strange. Answer this, why would scum make their first post that? It obviously wouldn't do anything towards getting Marv lynched. It would only bring negative attention towards himself. | ||
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I understand you just went through all my filter, and basically resaid the things I posted. I don't see how it makes me scum, and adding SCUM! at the end doesn't make it make me scummy lol. In the future when making a case, you should outline how the quotes make the person scum and not re-iterate what the post says. Can't say much more now since I'm at work. | ||
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On September 18 2012 22:57 Bluelightz wrote: Show nested quote + On September 18 2012 22:40 Mementoss wrote: @Bluelightz case I understand you just went through all my filter, and basically resaid the things I posted. I don't see how it makes me scum, and adding SCUM! at the end doesn't make it make me scummy lol. In the future when making a case, you should outline how the quotes make the person scum and not re-iterate what the post says. Can't say much more now since I'm at work. Why do you have to point fingers on everyone and your now pushing Hapa but voting prplhz? If you want to know my best scum read, check who I'm voting, that will be it. I'm not pushing Hapa, I'm asking him to explain his reasoning more. Don't purposely misinterpret me, don't you see how far that got Zephridd with his case on Hapa? I'm allowed to pressure other players while voting another player. There is more than 1 scum in this game ya know. I would say the only other person I remotely pressured so far would be austinmcc's scummy indecisiveness. | ||
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On September 18 2012 23:56 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On September 18 2012 23:54 Ange777 wrote: @marv: I don't remember if I've played with Hiro (probably not). Is there some meta play I should be aware of? Otherwise I can't understand why you are pushing a HiroPro lynch when I feel like prplhz is far more scummy. @iamperfection: Saying Zeph defended you by accusing your accuser is a stretch. Why wouldn't you accuse Mementoss instead who actually did defend you? Because prplhz has at least done *something* and HiroPro hasn't? Wouldn't by the same logic you would have MKFuba in there? On September 18 2012 23:54 Ange777 wrote: @iamperfection: Saying Zeph defended you by accusing your accuser is a stretch. Why wouldn't you accuse Mementoss instead who actually did defend you? Why did you purposely leave Palmar's name out when you clearly quoted him "defending" iamperfection in the same fashion I did in your own post before? Seen below: + Show Spoiler + On September 18 2012 23:48 Ange777 wrote: @Palmar: Show nested quote + On September 18 2012 22:57 Palmar wrote: On September 18 2012 09:39 iamperfection wrote: On September 18 2012 09:38 Hapahauli wrote: On September 18 2012 09:35 iamperfection wrote: On September 18 2012 09:35 Hapahauli wrote: On September 18 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote: you case on prplhz is shit. a fucking meta case on 1 post come on. Although i dont think that was the point of your case i think the purpose was to drive discussion which it has done. Kudos to you. The purpose of my random lynch was an attempt to drive some discussion. I had already discussed with marv after my previous game in which palmar suggested a random lynch in order to drive discussion on day 1. Thats why i find it extremely wierd that marv didnt think it was random when i had already spoken with him that i would do it in my next game. On September 18 2012 06:46 marvellosity wrote: P.S the whole point is that iamp's suggestion wasn't random, so we already have a liar. LAL? I say we respect his wishes. ## Vote Marvelosity Geebus why are you flipping out? what? "you case on prplhz is shit. a fucking meta case on 1 post come on." Seems very unnecessarily critical/harsh/attacking. Like I don't think his case is good either, but that's just over the top and scummy imo. he is a big boy. i dont think he will lose sleep over it. Confirms my post above. No scum would say this. Why wouldn't scum say this? While I agree with Blazinghand and hapa leaning town, I can't understand how you are giving iamperfection townie points. | ||
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On September 19 2012 00:01 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On September 19 2012 00:00 Mementoss wrote: On September 18 2012 23:56 marvellosity wrote: On September 18 2012 23:54 Ange777 wrote: @marv: I don't remember if I've played with Hiro (probably not). Is there some meta play I should be aware of? Otherwise I can't understand why you are pushing a HiroPro lynch when I feel like prplhz is far more scummy. @iamperfection: Saying Zeph defended you by accusing your accuser is a stretch. Why wouldn't you accuse Mementoss instead who actually did defend you? Because prplhz has at least done *something* and HiroPro hasn't? Wouldn't by the same logic you would have MKFuba in there? On September 18 2012 23:54 Ange777 wrote: @iamperfection: Saying Zeph defended you by accusing your accuser is a stretch. Why wouldn't you accuse Mementoss instead who actually did defend you? Why did you purposely leave Palmar's name out when you clearly quoted him "defending" iamperfection in the same fashion I did in your own post before? Seen below: + Show Spoiler + On September 18 2012 23:48 Ange777 wrote: @Palmar: Show nested quote + On September 18 2012 22:57 Palmar wrote: On September 18 2012 09:39 iamperfection wrote: On September 18 2012 09:38 Hapahauli wrote: On September 18 2012 09:35 iamperfection wrote: On September 18 2012 09:35 Hapahauli wrote: On September 18 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote: you case on prplhz is shit. a fucking meta case on 1 post come on. Although i dont think that was the point of your case i think the purpose was to drive discussion which it has done. Kudos to you. The purpose of my random lynch was an attempt to drive some discussion. I had already discussed with marv after my previous game in which palmar suggested a random lynch in order to drive discussion on day 1. Thats why i find it extremely wierd that marv didnt think it was random when i had already spoken with him that i would do it in my next game. On September 18 2012 06:46 marvellosity wrote: P.S the whole point is that iamp's suggestion wasn't random, so we already have a liar. LAL? I say we respect his wishes. ## Vote Marvelosity Geebus why are you flipping out? what? "you case on prplhz is shit. a fucking meta case on 1 post come on." Seems very unnecessarily critical/harsh/attacking. Like I don't think his case is good either, but that's just over the top and scummy imo. he is a big boy. i dont think he will lose sleep over it. Confirms my post above. No scum would say this. Why wouldn't scum say this? While I agree with Blazinghand and hapa leaning town, I can't understand how you are giving iamperfection townie points. I commented on fuba already, if you care to read my posts. The point with Hiro is that he posted several times but without any substance whatsoever. I am reading your posts, basically it says, MKFuba is doing the exact same thing as Hiro but I know him IRL so I'll focus on HiroPro, is this not correct? | ||
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On September 19 2012 00:07 Bluelightz wrote: Memen: Aren't you just deflecting pressure onto mkfuba? If you want to answer like that at least explain to me why it's the same, oh and answer my question. Read the thread I answered your questions. And please take off scum shaded glasses everytime you talk to me, I'm not deflecting pressure onto mkfuba, I'm getting verification from Marv, why he is biased towards one lurker over the other. On September 19 2012 00:07 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On September 19 2012 00:04 Mementoss wrote: On September 19 2012 00:01 marvellosity wrote: On September 19 2012 00:00 Mementoss wrote: On September 18 2012 23:56 marvellosity wrote: On September 18 2012 23:54 Ange777 wrote: @marv: I don't remember if I've played with Hiro (probably not). Is there some meta play I should be aware of? Otherwise I can't understand why you are pushing a HiroPro lynch when I feel like prplhz is far more scummy. @iamperfection: Saying Zeph defended you by accusing your accuser is a stretch. Why wouldn't you accuse Mementoss instead who actually did defend you? Because prplhz has at least done *something* and HiroPro hasn't? Wouldn't by the same logic you would have MKFuba in there? On September 18 2012 23:54 Ange777 wrote: @iamperfection: Saying Zeph defended you by accusing your accuser is a stretch. Why wouldn't you accuse Mementoss instead who actually did defend you? Why did you purposely leave Palmar's name out when you clearly quoted him "defending" iamperfection in the same fashion I did in your own post before? Seen below: + Show Spoiler + On September 18 2012 23:48 Ange777 wrote: @Palmar: Show nested quote + On September 18 2012 22:57 Palmar wrote: On September 18 2012 09:39 iamperfection wrote: On September 18 2012 09:38 Hapahauli wrote: On September 18 2012 09:35 iamperfection wrote: On September 18 2012 09:35 Hapahauli wrote: On September 18 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote: you case on prplhz is shit. a fucking meta case on 1 post come on. Although i dont think that was the point of your case i think the purpose was to drive discussion which it has done. Kudos to you. The purpose of my random lynch was an attempt to drive some discussion. I had already discussed with marv after my previous game in which palmar suggested a random lynch in order to drive discussion on day 1. Thats why i find it extremely wierd that marv didnt think it was random when i had already spoken with him that i would do it in my next game. On September 18 2012 06:46 marvellosity wrote: P.S the whole point is that iamp's suggestion wasn't random, so we already have a liar. LAL? I say we respect his wishes. ## Vote Marvelosity Geebus why are you flipping out? what? "you case on prplhz is shit. a fucking meta case on 1 post come on." Seems very unnecessarily critical/harsh/attacking. Like I don't think his case is good either, but that's just over the top and scummy imo. he is a big boy. i dont think he will lose sleep over it. Confirms my post above. No scum would say this. Why wouldn't scum say this? While I agree with Blazinghand and hapa leaning town, I can't understand how you are giving iamperfection townie points. I commented on fuba already, if you care to read my posts. The point with Hiro is that he posted several times but without any substance whatsoever. I am reading your posts, basically it says, MKFuba is doing the exact same thing as Hiro but I know him IRL so I'll focus on HiroPro, is this not correct? Incorrect, fuba basically hadn't posted AT ALL, whereas Hiro *was* posting, but what he was posting was worthless. How do you not see the distinction? Well what really caught my eye was Fuba's first post. On September 18 2012 09:39 mkfuba07 wrote: Show nested quote + On September 18 2012 09:37 iamperfection wrote: On September 18 2012 09:36 Mementoss wrote: On September 18 2012 09:30 iamperfection wrote: you case on prplhz is shit. a fucking meta case on 1 post come on. Although i dont think that was the point of your case i think the purpose was to drive discussion which it has done. Kudos to you. The purpose of my random lynch was an attempt to drive some discussion. I had already discussed with marv after my previous game in which palmar suggested a random lynch in order to drive discussion on day 1. Thats why i find it extremely wierd that marv didnt think it was random when i had already spoken with him that i would do it in my next game. On September 18 2012 06:46 marvellosity wrote: P.S the whole point is that iamp's suggestion wasn't random, so we already have a liar. LAL? I say we respect his wishes. ## Vote Marvelosity Well, that means it isn't random because it was pre-meditated and thought out. Sooo, yeah. Believe it or not it did randomly come out as marv. So what are we actually supposed to gain from this random voting? o.O A shit load has already happened in the thread, and this is the ONLY thing he thinks is worth commenting on? Looks pretty fishy to me. I understand hes at school now and will expect more from him tonight. Fuba was in teh thread last night and decided to not say anything except the above. I agree with you that HiroPro hasn't said anything towards finding scum, or anything that helps at all really. But sadly this seems like typical HiroPro meta. Even though it's 'typical' HiroPro it's not to be excused, and I definitely would ask him to step it up. 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