Unfortunately I couldn't fine the trailer video for this documentary on Al Jazeera yet(will update when I do find it) but watching Al Jazeera just now, there was a commercial for a documentary that entails North Korea vs. South Korea in terms of cyber warfare and how South Korea could be at disadvantage because(and this is my perception of the trailer, everyone will draw their own conclusions when they see the trailer, once I find it) while the North Koreans are using the pcs for serious matters, South Korea is too busy with a video gaming addiction(like I said previously, this is my opinion of the trailer, not my actual opinion).
They showed BoxeR and some GSL players in the actual booth, and as it ended it had Gumiho in the GSL booth, so it will talk about professional gaming I gather.
Because of the lack of content, I will post a video of a video that is similar in a way, until I can link the trailer.
If anyone happens to find the trailer, do post it, so I can update op. If admins close the thread that's fine too, but like I said the trailer for this documentary looked very interesting. Also it was scheduled for this Friday, August 31, 2012 at 9pm EST and I have no clue if it is for a global audience or not yet, will update when I know.
Disclaimer: The video embedded in my post, is not the Al Jazeera trailer. I posted it in case others have not seen it, and I gather much of what was said in that video will be said in the Al Jazeera documentary. Nothing displayed in the video or even in op is what I feel about the matter, it is just my perception of the trailer and what I feel the documentary will entail based on it. Once a trailer is up, or even the entire video, it will be posted here for everyone to gather their own opinions on it.
On August 27 2012 23:00 Gl!tch wrote: Interesting. The starcraft community has been receiving a lot of press lately, but i'm not sure if all press is good press.
You are right, and like mentioned in op, in my opinion this piece will do nothing but knock on gaming addictions. I really hope it isn't the case, I am trying my hardest to find the trailer atm and no luck yet. I have watched a few of the 101 east documentaries already though http://www.youtube.com/user/AlJazeeraEnglish/videos?query=101 east and the documentaries I have watched were actually pretty darn good, so I hope it's the same with this next one.
On August 27 2012 23:00 Gl!tch wrote: Interesting. The starcraft community has been receiving a lot of press lately, but i'm not sure if all press is good press.
They see something they don't understand and then comment on it.
Bringing North Korea into the topic pretty much invalidates everything. Its just a video on game addiction. So while it has valid points. Talking about cyber warfare is laughable.
Everyone knows North Korea's only goal in war is to rush across the DMZ and take Seoul (50 miles away) in a swift decisive action.
I really don't like this documentary because it show only the extreme part of a big one . From my point of view gaming addiction can be a big problem in korea cause of his culture. When i see korean peaple seems have really weak mind.
And the cyber attack excuse is just so laughtable... It's normal peaple computer and not hacker ones.
Its pretty stupid to assume that because kids are playing video games in South Korea that North Korea has any kind of advantage. Most North Koreans don't have electricity or any real computer availability, how can a population wholly disconnected have any real chance? Now obviously North Korea is going to have a group of "elite" people who's sole job in life is to be good computer hackers, but like in any collegiate sport, the bigger pool you have to draw from the better your team is going to be, and South Korea has a much better system to identify and develop talent. I don't see South Korea coming out on the losing side. I'm fairly certain this kind of war will be fought with small numbers and will be more clever and brutish.
I bet american people had much more fun than russians in the '70. Guess who rules the world now?
These people just are not smart enough to see the connection between the masses having fun resulting of being a country that got a strong modern economy, and implying that their military power is probably top edge because of their greater technology and stuff.
Its like saying: "see, in the middle age Knight were trained at 8 year old, life was hard, blah blah, and now kids are just brainless retards even in high school and don't even know how to ride a horse". Ok then, try to assault a modern country with a middle age army and let's see who gets the upper hand !
I bet that in 20 years either north korea plays esports like everyone else, either it does not exist any more as a country.
On August 27 2012 23:20 Medrea wrote: They already do!
Bringing North Korea into the topic pretty much invalidates everything. Its just a video on game addiction. So while it has valid points. Talking about cyber warfare is laughable.
Everyone knows North Korea's only goal in war is to rush across the DMZ and take Seoul (50 miles away) in a swift decisive action.
Cyber warfare was brought up in the trailer for the documentary. It mentions cyber warfare by North Korea, I am not making anything up lol.
This is just a troll thread. People are starving in N.Korea, yet you think their people are more inclined to cyberwarfare and IT stuff ? Funny thread :D
I know but, simply put. Cyber and North Korea do not go hand in hand, at all.
Also video says something along the lines of "they confuse reality with the game."
Yeah I'm sure our 2012 graphics are that convincing. What with the screen projecting a 2d image and all. In the next 60 years when we all have holodecks or goggles or small 3D enclosures (where my money is on) that actually work, then we can have this discussion that gaming is too real.
Gaming addiction isn't real. People are addicted to good times.
On August 27 2012 23:17 Medrea wrote: South Korea at a disadvantage in CYBER warfare?
North Korea has 1950's technology.
Welcome to North Korean Missile command.
Everyone else's looks like Congress is in session.
Also some of the world's greatest minds are South Korean in terms of security testing.
I dig the lighting.
Ya I lol'd at that... but it was mentioned in the trailer. I hate to paint an image of Al Jazeera as a biased news outlet with lack of factual pieces, because in my opinion they are not. Al Jazeera and Russia Today are one of the few real news outlets left in the world today.
On August 27 2012 23:41 Mondieu wrote: This is just a troll thread. People are starving in N.Korea, yet you think their people are more inclined to cyberwarfare and IT stuff ? Funny thread :D
For the love of God... did you even read anything I posted in op? Don't post such stupid comments.
Well I guess we're not commenting on the video you wanted, but the similar one that you posted, so I'll comment on that.
I think it makes some valid points about video gaming addiction in South Korea, some of the stories truly are shocking and disturbing and I'm glad that doctors there have recognized the growing problem. At first it seemed like the North's cyber-attack capabilities was kind of random and unrelated to the popularity of video games, but at the very end they tacked on an explanation linking the two together: They say that the benefits South Korea gains from being one of the most wired countries in the world also makes it vulnerable to cyber-attack.
I'm not really sure how popularity of video games make South Korea vulnerable in more meaningful ways (i.e. besides shutting down gaming servers, as in actually targeting banking institutions). It would have been nice if they expanded on the connection but I guess the assumption would be that because of their investment in electronic infrastructure South Korea has a tendency to use that same infrastructure for other more important needs.
Also to people who are ridiculing North Korea as having technology from the cold war, I mean just watch the video and see some of the things that North Korea has already managed to do, from infiltrating and shutting down major banks to nearly releasing a computer virus in an airport terminal that could have resulted in plane crashes. If you watch the video, former cyber-warfare intelligence operatives and university professors who defected to South Korea talk about what the North's interests are and some of their capabilities (in addition to high-tech assassination attempts).
On August 27 2012 23:43 Medrea wrote: I know but, simply put. Cyber and North Korea do not go hand in hand, at all.
Also video says something along the lines of "they confuse reality with the game."
Yeah I'm sure our 2012 graphics are that convincing. What with the screen projecting a 2d image and all. In the next 60 years when we all have holodecks or goggles or small 3D enclosures (where my money is on) that actually work, then we can have this discussion that gaming is too real.
Gaming addiction isn't real. People are addicted to good times.
Should we really take your word over the doctor's though? I mean what evidence do you really have suggesting that gaming addiction isn't real, but apparently the medical community in South Korea takes it seriously? I mean tell that to the numerous cases cited in that documentary about people who have played for 4 or 5 days straight and needed to be hospitalized. Or the example of the electrical engineer who openly admits that he his probably addicted and has been sitting in a PC bang for three days. Or the example of a mother who gave birth in a PC bang, then went back to gaming while the baby died. You can't brush this aside and pretend that its some sort of conspiracy on the part of the medical community to tarnish the image of video games. I also don't think you can brush this aside by labelling them as "stupid" as others have done.
This is a serious issue...people have *died* in PC bangs. Maybe we should start taking this more seriously and do some research instead of assuming that video games are harmless and that any negativity just comes from close-minded old people who hate video games. Because its that kind of attitude of denialism that's just going to make "e-sports" and this community seem really immoral to the general public.
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