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Lazermonkey
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On July 22 2012 04:31 VisceraEyes wrote: XD. Good thing there are no Veteran Zombies in this setup then : P.I asked that in mine and they I received a Veteran Zombie role. I then proceeded to get lynched D1 and eat the brain of the host of this game.  | ||
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On July 14 2012 09:07 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Role list This game uses Heavy flavour for the role list. Each and every player in the game will have a separate character. Vanilla green players will still get flavour for their character regardless of being vanilla. Any character could be green/blue/red. Everyone is welcome to roleplay their character if they wish. Warning. There will be spoilers potentially in this game from the show. You are warned. Roles that will be included Townie You may just be a normal player but you are the backbone of the town. Your goal is to help bring the Mafia to justice. You get no special powers but the ability to vote during day. Blue Roles may look pretty but the real power lies with you! Detective You have the ability to make night investigations. Once per night phase, you may PM me to ask for the role of one player. Medic You have the ability to prevent one hit on a player of your choice during the night. You may not protect yourself. Each paramedic can only stop one hit and as such if the number of mafia is greater than the number of paramedics on a player then that player will die. You will know if you saved the person. The person will know if he was saved. If you are protecting a veteran, and they are hit, your ability supercedes theirs. A medic can protect someone the night she/he gets killed. They won't be notified of their save though, since they are dead. Vigilante You may, only once during the game, kill a player of your choice during the night. Your hit acts exactly as that of Mafia, meaning it can be used to to take out extra lives or use up Medic protection. Veteran You get two night lives instead of one! This means it takes at least two successful hits in one night to kill you, or one hit on each of two separate nights. A veteran will be told when they lose one of their night lives. If you get lynched, you die, regardless of whether you have an extra night life remaining. Mason At the beginning of every cycle, you may send a PM to me detailing who you would like to Mason with during that cycle. You may PM with that person for the full cycle. You may not choose a person you have already Masoned with for the remainder of the game. Miller This player is a townie in every way except that if a DT role checks this player, the DT will be told the Miller is a Mafia. The Miller is told that they are a Townie. The Miller will be revealed as a Miller upon their death. The miller is on the side of the Townies, and wins if they win. Mafia Your goal is to eliminate everyone else in the town. Your ability, as a group, is killing off whomever you decide on at night and knowing the role of each other player in your mafia. You may kill your own members. Mafia killing power will be determined when the game begins. You also must choose the Godfather, and Roleblocker from among yourselves. These two mafia power roles must be separately distributed, meaning one Mafia member can only possess one of these powers. If you do not choose by the start of night 1, I will randomly choose for you. Mafia will also have a certain number of Masons, which can be given to any Mafia (even those possessing other roles). Mason At the beginning of every cycle, you may send a PM to me detailing who you would like to Mason with during that cycle. You may PM with that person for the full cycle. You may not choose a person you have already Masoned with for the remainder of the game. The Mafia team will have a set number of people to choose as Masons. Mafia with other roles (Roleblocker, Godfather) can double up on Mason roles. Mafia Roleblocker Once per night, you may send in a PM detailing a person you would like to block. That person will be notified that they were blocked, and if the person being blocked has a night action, he or she will not be able to use it. Please note that this ability only pertains to active actions. Passive abilities, such as the Veteran's extra lives, cannot be blocked by mafia. Godfather The Godfather has the ability to decide what role he will appear to be when a Detective role checks him. It may be any role and must be chosen Day 1 or he will default to Townie role. After your role is chosen you may not change it after that; decisions are final for the whole game. Does this mean one(or more) of each role must be present? You don't say that it's a semi open setup so that means that there is a possibilty for other roles as well, right? | ||
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On August 03 2012 17:57 Lazermonkey wrote: I really don't see a reason for someone NOT to claim if they get masoned. One might argue that it let's scum get one of the few pieces of info that they've not already recived, however I don't really see how scum would be able to capitalize on the fact that there are town masons in the game. Okay, when thinking of it, there might be some situations that people claiming masoned might be usefull for scum. But Town will most likely gain more from claiming than scum. Masoned players SHOULD claim. | ||
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Basically, this is the only negative thing I can think of with people claiming masoned. But the advantages for this is way bigger. | ||
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On August 03 2012 21:44 Toadesstern wrote: We will know the exact numbers of masons unless scum mason decides not to use his power at all in which case he can be treated as vanilla scum. Yes, this means scum will also know how many masons there are, however scum already have two advantages here. Just to remind you, this was the question: 1. They already know whether or not there is a scum mason. 2. If one scum ever gets masoned all scum will know who is that that person is scum mason whilest if town gets masoned and we decide that they shouldn't claim, only that person will know who is the mason. There is more to gain for town than for scum by claiming. | ||
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On August 03 2012 22:27 Toadesstern wrote: That's not what I said. In the situation you describe we can't assume that any of the masons are scum. There are no guarantees for scum mason. However, In the situation you describe, we have effectivly turned a quite strong scum mason into a weak vanilla scum. We are in an advantage we wouldn't have been in if we wouldn't claim masoned.If you treat it as information we want to use that IS a pretty big if, isn't it? Let's say we're in a situation with 3 town masons and 1 mafia mason for the sake of getting some numbers. Let's say the 3 town masons get claimed, the 1 mafia mason won't be claimed. What's the next step? "Woah, we've got EXACTLY 3 masons, one of them is bound to be mafia! Let's lynch into them!" ? If that's not the next step, what good is the information? You said yourself, we're going to know the exact number of masons, while saying that it's very much possible that the number will be wrong. That's kind of contradicting imo. kind of. | ||
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Lynching grush today is essentially a coinflip. I will not lynch into him today. | ||
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On August 04 2012 22:56 Erandorr wrote: So what exactly do you intend to do. Do you agree about WBG? If you mean agree with lynching him, then yes. His play really havn't made alot of sense to me and in some cases been directly anti-town imo. This is especially suspicious because of the fact that he is s veteran. | ||
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I truly disagree WBG opinions about both outing the masons and his vote on grush. I do however agree with what he said about having diferent opinions=/=being scummy. When reading his filter I have a hard time seeing scum motives behind his play. Him outing masons doesn't make sense as scum unless VE and Errador are both scum, which is quite unlikely. He could simply have said all that in mafia QT and effectivly avoided this major shit storm he is in. Scum would all have gotten all the info , town none and WGB could've had a good shot at manipulating the masons. Regarding grush, I don't agree with this move one single bit. But what's the motive behind this from a scum PoV? There were so many easy targets, but yet he chose grush. Also note that noone really supported him in his case against grush. I'd say prp is the better lynch out of the two as of now for reasons others stated. Prp is playing in a super defensive way and his reason for loosing the pressure on Glasse is just weak. ##Unvote ##Vote Prplhz | ||
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On August 04 2012 08:19 CountDropula wrote: His first post. Starts off with saying that Zephs behavior could be explained by two ways, both which are to some degree anti-town moves. Yet he ignores that Jingle's reason to FoS him was very weak. Zephird's vote on prphlz was clearly a joke move, and there wasn't a reastic chance for someone to get bandwagoned for that, especially not in such a big game. The most resonable explanation for him voting Jingle was to put pressure on him after putting up such a weak FoS on him. Dropula completely ignored this, which would imply that he is making Zephird look worse than he actually did. Zephirdd's change from one unfounded vote to another tells me that 1. He doesn't care who is lynched 2. He doesn't feel comfortable dealing with pressure, so he fires back on jinglehell counterproductively. Another example of an unsubstantiated position-taking. After a legit response from toad, another switch. He sounds way too meek in the latter quote. Any objections/further evidence backed by specific evidence? Cause I'm leaning toward voting zephirdd. Changing your opinion is not necesarly a scum trait. He is testing the waters here. Wants to hear everybody elses thought's on Zephird. He is leaning towards voting him. He does however end up not. Why? In worst case you could simply unvote him, no harm done. Note the timing of the post as well, right when the Zephird shit-storm is at it's peak. On August 04 2012 10:16 CountDropula wrote: Second post. His vote against Jingle was NOT the same thing as his vote against prphlz. Also, I'm not sure what he means by never mentioning his second point but I really can't find anything Zephird didn't answer in his post. Still throwing shit at Zephird for things he is not responsible for. Your burst of emotion is suspicious. If your play in the first 5 min paid off, why are you continuing the same behavior in the very response where you out it to the thread? Isn't it over? You never mentioned my second point in your response. I'm not the only one who is suspicious of you, but I don't know about a bandwagon. Just give everyone some concrete defense, we will determine that you are green, and this won't take up any more time. He then does some super back and forth vote jumoing without explaining himslef. 1. On August 05 2012 03:16 CountDropula wrote: I really think the most important issue for us right now is getting people active. Were giving mafia too much space to hide. Nevertheless, I'm voting wbg right now though that can change. For sure watching zeph though, but I need a better case. On August 05 2012 03:24 CountDropula wrote: Vote: Wherebugsgo 2. just 1 1/2 hour later, without any reason what so ever. On August 05 2012 04:42 CountDropula wrote: ##Unvote: Wherebugsgo ##vote: Talismania 3. Still no reason. On August 05 2012 08:48 CountDropula wrote: ##unvote: Talismania ##vote:prplhz 4. When BKE confronts him with this hillarious voteing pattern, he respondes with: On August 05 2012 16:08 CountDropula wrote: Gives some really weak reason for his vote/unvote on Talis/WBG. Says that the evidence for voting Zeph was too slim yet he was able to vote prphlz without any reason what so ever.I felt my votes on Talismania and wbg were too based on cherry picking and jumping the gun. The reason I didn't vote for zephirdd even though I had only mentioned him is that I'd like to back up my suspicions of him more thoroughly. Did not mason. Hope that helps. Dropula, unless you give some really good response I will make sure to get you lynched tomorrow. | ||
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On August 05 2012 23:28 CountDropula wrote: Yes, it absolutely does not make any sense from a town point of view to do that. And still, we don't even know who you are suspicious of. TBH, the only reason I'm not convinced you are scum is the fact that you scum team should've told you to stop this nonesense a long time ago. Not a smurf, I'm new. Changing votes like that was a mistake. Honestly i was too hasty, and that's it. Made a mistake, but is it really that suspicious? | ||
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On August 06 2012 01:13 grush57 wrote: Lol, care to post something usefull?Solstice, my man. | ||
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As for Dropula, his only defense against all of my suspicion was that he was inexperienced and that it was all a mistake. This can be explained in 2 ways. 1. He is inexperienced. 2. He is scum. If he is town he will most likely be left by scum unless he improves his play by an miraculously amount. If he is scum... Then he is scum. For all Vigis, I hope you shot these guys tonight, as lynching them tomorrow will not really generate any discussion if they keep on playing like they've done so far. | ||
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On August 06 2012 05:56 CountDropula wrote: Lolwut.Which explanation do you like best? Inexperience or scum? Well, since I want to lynch you I'd much rather prefer you to be scum : ). You aren't helping town at all atm. If the only defense you have is the noob card then you must die. Preferably sooner than later. Unless you do some actual scum hunting, which it doesn't look like you are trying to. If you do not get shot tonight you will have 48 hours to convince me and everyone else why you shouldn't be the one to be lynched * hint * make some analysis * hint *. | ||
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On August 06 2012 06:09 grush57 wrote: Why? There is a decent chance you will get shot tonight IMO and if you are withholding info there is a chance we will never know what you were going to say. If you are mason/masoned you should 100% claim right now.Wait till tommorow, everything will be explained. | ||
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