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Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
May 16 2012 02:33 GMT
#20
/in
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
May 21 2012 16:57 GMT
#135
Hi guys, just finished reading through the thread (not that it was much to read) I like how people jumped onto the VE votes like little school girls licking lollipops and followed the teacher. We are how far into day one? and there are only a few pages and not much to go on as in terms of scum hunting. I agree that Navillus looks a little suspicious at the moment. I will be rereading the thread and taking a closer look at what we have so far.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
May 21 2012 22:25 GMT
#212
On May 22 2012 05:52 froggynoddy wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 22 2012 05:29 Tunkeg wrote:
Reads d1 of Day1

Acrofalis/Marvellosity:
Leaning town based on Acrofalis aggression while he was in game. He tried to get this game going, and tried to apply some pressure.

EchelonTee:
Leaning town. He went into a fight with Acrofalis from the get go, and haven't been afraid to stick his head out.

Zealos
Get some scumvibes off him. He started the game by voting VE as number two, without a good reason. He claims it to be a joke later (which it might be). He then proceeds to vote Acrofales based on ET's case, and because of meta, basicly sheeping ET. The rest of his filter seems very empty, even though he got more post than most in this game. Some townpoints for actually bother to answer questions.

Mattchew
He might be one of those I called out for not posting earlier, that is a scum. I don't know what he is trying to do, but if his postingstyle continues this way he will be disruptive townie at best, and sabotaging scum at worst. Leaning scum for now.

Nova_Terra
Leaning scum. He was active at the start, but unlike Acrofalis his attempts at pushing seems more forced, and with no real weight behind it. His whole postingstyle seems very non-commital and gives me scumvibes.

Also Navillus need to get in the thread and do some more. His vote on WBG is the only thing he have done. And it was done without much reasoning, and in my opinion strange reasoning.


PS: I know you guys don't like list. But I want to do lists so bare with me.

PS 2: This is not an analysis post. It is a read post. When I am ready to put my vote down on someone I will try to make a good case/analysis on them. Exception is if there is a great case on them that I agree with, then I will be open about sheeping it, and probably just add some of my own reasoning to it.



This list... serves no purpose other than making you look active. Town reads are worse than useless day 1 as 1. they are even weaker than day 1 scumreads and 2. points to scum who to kill to cause confusion.

EDIT: There was more but WBG and Navillus covered it whilst I was writing

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 22 2012 05:37 Navillus wrote:
Okaaay so my WBG vote was a joke, I do not actually think it's a good idea to lynch one of our 2 vets on that basis alone and I am not really of the opinion that advice is an automatic scum-tell, it'd be nice to have a little benefit of the doubt on me not being an idiot.

Next ##Unvote
##Vote: Mattchew


As far as I can tell he's just posting with flavor text from mtg cards, if that continues I don't really care if he's scum or town it makes him impossible to read, doesn't let him contribute, and makes for a really shitty atmosphere. Mattchew stop it.

On N_T yes VE and WBG I'd say he's using pretty bad method of scumhunting/analysis and his vote is for a dumb reason, but that doesn't make him scum and aside from clear-cut examples of someone being useless or disruptive (such as restricting their posts to text from a card game) it's a bad idea to lynch someone for bad play, in my experience it's rarely a scumtell and depending on how they're playing badly it can be more of a town tell.

Tunkeg you asked a bunch of questions earlier, most of them were ignored, was there any point to them? Why don't you care that people didn't answer you/why aren't you following up? Also why post that list, if you have scum reads why aren't you just pressuring them instead of telling them, and how does telling everyone your town-reads do anything but let scum know who you think is townie and so light them up as targets?

Holy spam batman! NT scum or town please stop with multiple one or two line posts in a row, it's distracting and makes the thread harder to read through, consolidate.


How is voting for Mattchew due to his posting style (which you consider to be *Bad*) different to voting N_T based on bad play?

I don't necessarily disagree with you I just think you're being a little inconsistent. Shoot I forgot to unvote as promised:

##Unvote
##Vote Katina


Inactive players kill town. Katina, my vote stays on you until you make an appearance.


I made an apperance earlier today. Do you not read over the thread my dear?

On May 22 2012 03:27 Nova_Terra wrote:
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On May 22 2012 02:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 21 2012 21:17 Nova_Terra wrote:
Hey VE since you seem to want to ignore my challenge who do you wanna kill


Hey Nova, since you seem to want to ignore my question to you (something that's actually USEFUL to this game, unlike your "challenge"), how about you actually answer it instead of trying to distract town with meaningless drivel? I'll even repost it for your convenience.

On May 21 2012 08:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 21 2012 05:59 Nova_Terra wrote:
On May 21 2012 05:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
Whether or not advice is good has nothing to do with the alignment of a player, just the same as making a plan, regardless of how good it is, is generally not indicative of alignment.

If the advice makes sense, follow it. If not, don't. The question of "is this guy scum" has nothing to do with that.

I never said that it has anything to do with indicacating the alignment of the player,i said that general advice seems to be contributing but isnt really. and that its just as likely mister helpful is scum, etc.


Your style has so far been laced with an air of giving advice to the other players - in what way is Bugs' post giving advice any different from, say, you warning that "players trying to give advice could be scum"?

ooh i forgot about that
Its different because its not all i've done
and because i know im town
and its not really different itself, but i was aware of the hypocrisy before i made teh post


I would to bring attention to this lovely post. N_T might be the BM version 2! I say this because of his spam, oneliners, and the fact he seems to be refreshing the thread every 5 minutes. When BM is mafia he always over emphasizes that he is confirmed town.

Such things are silly to say and provide no help to the town I will be setting my vote.

##Vote Nove_Terra

Based on his fliter, he seems to more interesting in proving his innocence then trying to find the Mafia.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
May 21 2012 23:07 GMT
#221
On May 21 2012 18:37 Mouldy Jeb wrote:
hi- now my presence is known. saying "get rid of a veteran" indicates that you are worried that an experienced Mafia player will either weasel you out~ if your mafia or kill you if you are not so due to this rash decision to get rid of competition so on that note #vote:Nova_Terra


I was reading through filters and came across this post. It is just O.o This post does not have a purpose. It feels forced. Almost like he didn't really want to post but knew that he had to. I'm not saying we should kill him but that a finger of suspicion should be pointed onto him.

He just played the noob card in his post. I'm always wary of those people. They don't tickle my fancy.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
May 22 2012 19:19 GMT
#346
Sorry, I'm here now. I had a very busy day yesterday but it's all good now.

On May 21 2012 04:45 Nova_Terra wrote:
Yaaaaaay!
Should we get rid of a veteran? should we? I THINK SO :D
##Vote: VisceraEyes


On May 22 2012 01:26 Nova_Terra wrote:
as of yet i would be fine with either a Navillus or WBG lynch


On May 22 2012 04:34 Nova_Terra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 04:16 froggynoddy wrote:
Hello, finally recovered from weekend (did not expect this game to start so early).

Hello Marv : I'm almost tempted to policy vote you due to how scary good you played with me as scum in LIV. Policy lynches are bad though so your safe until you post more.

I don't think WBG's opening comment is alignment charged. there are equal reasons for both town and scum to open up D1 with general common sense posts.

From the 2 games I've played (Noobie VIII and TLMafia LIV) and N_T has been lurky/bored as townie and hyper-active as scum. Just saying.

Navillus, despite still being a noob I am strongly against a 'voting against vets' policy. It makes no sense and seems hugely anti-town, unless its a joke.

Let me know if it is because until then ##Vote Navillus[/b

Rofl, well thats interesting, it looks like i just went through your newbie game (snmmIX not VIII, bitch to find) and in that game there was an understanding that my town meta was very very active which i ended up failing at as scum, and my meta change was frequently noted in cases against me. Very interesting that you would want to try to make this conclusion. what reason would there be other than scum?

##Unvote
##Vote: Froggynoddy


[B]On May 22 2012 14:24 Nova_Terra wrote:
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On May 22 2012 14:18 EchelonTee wrote:
acid, jeb, katina, or no lynch

i think one of those should happen

in no particular order froggy, katina, WBG


Okay.... please tell me you guys have seem how inconsistent N_T is. Take a look at his filter. He opens with going after VE right off the back with close to no reasoning except he that he might be a veteran. Then he proceeds to spew out short useless posts. He is throwing doubt around the town and is picking at everyone. I don't need to tell you guys he's spamming relentlessly. As I said before he seems more interested in proving his own innocence than trying to find mafia. This is shown by how he is trying to kill anyone he can. Instead of just focusing on one or two players.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
May 22 2012 19:32 GMT
#349
On May 23 2012 04:27 Nova_Terra wrote:
wonderful, you jump on the bandwagon and reiterate past posts knowingly
this is just terrible

Hardly. I have been going for you for awhile now. I voted for you ages ago.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
May 22 2012 20:00 GMT
#366
@WBG

I presume my actions speak for themselves. I have voted for him, said why he was mafia, said what he was doing that was pushing a scum agenda.

I did express suspicion of Mouldy. I called him out on playing the noob card. His first post of the game felt incredibly forced as well.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
May 22 2012 21:27 GMT
#390
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...=325394&user=255225

Look at this link where N_T was mafia. Notice that he spams here.... and what is he doing this game?
...
...
Spam!
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
May 22 2012 21:32 GMT
#394
What the hell my browser is retarded

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=325394&user=255225
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
May 22 2012 21:52 GMT
#413
On May 23 2012 06:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
Regardless of his alignment nova seems to post a lot. Over the span of a week in games where he was scum and town he had 8-10 pages of filter in both.

Only his first game seems to be an anomaly with 5 pages after 9-10 days but that's still quite a lot (especially for a newbie game)

So why is it, Katina, that you're trying to pass off Nova's spam as exclusively a scum trait?


I'm not. I'm just saying he has done it before.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
May 22 2012 22:21 GMT
#457
I think for tomorrow's lynch candidates should be Mattchew or N_T
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
May 23 2012 18:53 GMT
#506
You know Mattchew, your quotes are cute and all but I can't help wonder what your motivation is for doing so. The games I have played in with you are nothing like this. Are you and N_T Mafia buddies?
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
May 23 2012 21:39 GMT
#520
On May 24 2012 06:10 Mattchew wrote:
"Mattchew will never be able to quote this." -Artanis

"You are Scum" - Katina
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
May 24 2012 17:57 GMT
#750
On May 25 2012 02:41 wherebugsgo wrote:
This is such a waste of time and thread space lol.

Anyway, Katina where are you?


Just finished reading the thread dear. Lots of pages to read this morning.

I really like how people are so focused on me when there are clearly scummy people like N_T and Mattchew.

One of those two should be the top lynch candidates for today hands down.

N_T has not nearly been as active today as he has been from the start of the game. He wants to kill me only bescause I'm pushing for him hard. He has been staying in the shadows today and only poking his head out when the votes start coming in on another player. May I bring up my past arguements against him:

1. Spam!
2. Spam!
3. More focused on proving his innocence than scum hunting (unless you want to call his only scum read on me as "scum hunting".)
4. Inconsistent

As I have stated he is only focusing on me and now by making that "Case" against me is a waste of time that could be used to find the Mafia.

As for Mattchew, I mean really? Do I even have to explain why I think he's scum and want to lynch him?
He has been completely ignoring me when I have called him out. Wait. He ignores just about everything and only comments when he has a qoute for it. He's not being helpful at all to the town and it annoys me that he is still alive and not being considered for the lynch. Others have commented on how annoying his qoutes are but yet no one has felt the need to vote for him.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
May 24 2012 18:13 GMT
#765
But at least Foolishness responded to people in Aperture and he was able to give out reads and make cases against people. I wouldn't mind killing Zealos I'm leaning more towards Mafia on him, but I think N_T and Mattchew come first. The cases against those two are much stronger than Zealos. As for WBG I have to go back and take a better look at him. I pretty mmuch ignored the little squabble between you two because it wasn't productive for the town.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
May 24 2012 18:43 GMT
#776
Thank you for joining us Mattchew <3
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
May 25 2012 18:20 GMT
#1073
Hi guys, I'm going to be really busy today but I will try and post if and when I can.

So a N_T lynch isn't going to happen today it seems. Sigh.

In that case I'm for a Zealos lynch. His arguments with Hiro have been cluttering up the thread and causing a lot of other posts to get buried. Just like the issues with WBG and VE.

I'm suspicious of him so I'm casting my vote

##Vote Zealos

Sorry N_T I voted. </3

+ Show Spoiler +
Also any argument that I'm lurking is pretty ridiculous. Just because I don't spam and make 15 posts a day like half the players doesn't mean I'm lurking. Quality over quantity people.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
May 26 2012 17:34 GMT
#1333
Okay first of all, I'm really tired of people (WBG) assuming I'm mafia because of my Meta I have said myself I have been busy. Stuff kept coming up this week, that's what happens when you have a "Life". I am sorry I couldn't be more active.

Secondly the two people I have been gunning for (N_T and Mattchew) are doing nothing but constantly bashing me. N_T is so focused on getting me lynched he is completely distracting himself from the forum. Mattchew is butt hurt because I got him to crack and stop using his quotes.

Third, I realize that Zealos claimed. I was fine lynching him as I stated in one of my posts before that. So me voting for someone I thought was scummy is considered Mafia? I love the logic behind that.

I apologize for not spewing out random votes and cluttering up the thread like a lot of you do. Everyone is so focused on me for stupid reasons when there are so many scummier people.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
May 26 2012 17:47 GMT
#1336
On May 27 2012 02:40 Mattchew wrote:
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On May 27 2012 02:34 Katina wrote:
Okay first of all, I'm really tired of people (WBG) assuming I'm mafia because of my Meta I have said myself I have been busy. Stuff kept coming up this week, that's what happens when you have a "Life". I am sorry I couldn't be more active.

Secondly the two people I have been gunning for (N_T and Mattchew) are doing nothing but constantly bashing me. N_T is so focused on getting me lynched he is completely distracting himself from the forum. Mattchew is butt hurt because I got him to crack and stop using his quotes.

Third, I realize that Zealos claimed. I was fine lynching him as I stated in one of my posts before that. So me voting for someone I thought was scummy is considered Mafia? I love the logic behind that.

I apologize for not spewing out random votes and cluttering up the thread like a lot of you do. Everyone is so focused on me for stupid reasons when there are so many scummier people.

Omg you have a "life"... whats that like? I'm sure that no one else on the forum has things going on outside this game

Bashing you? I haven't seen NT bash you once, he has however called you scum, so have I. I am not "butthurt" about you making me post regularly, I am "butthurt" about how unbelievably terribly you are playing if you are town.

Your reasoning for thinking Zealos was scum was just so clear HOW COULD I HAVE MISSED IT, I mean you easily have the most quality posts in the whole thread detailing out your thought process, asking pressing questions of others and sharing your cases and reads on other players.

Your right, a vote with literally no reasoning is totally not spewing out a random vote. Also, posting reads thoughts and haveing conversations with players about the game in the thread is totally just clutter.



Thank you for proving my point Mattchew.

Yeah, I don't imagine you would know what one is like. Your not butt hurt by that? Could have fooled me.That's why you have been riding my butt since you started posting reguarly.

If you honestly think that N_T hasn't been gunning for me or bashing me then you are really blind my dear sir.

I have been posting my reads and thoughts. Not my fault you don't have the attention span to actually read the posts. You don't even need to really. All you do is end up coming right back at me.

You are definetly Mafia and it's all just a matter of time before people pull their heads out of the sand and realize that.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
May 26 2012 17:59 GMT
#1338
On May 27 2012 02:51 Mattchew wrote:
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On May 27 2012 02:47 Katina wrote:
I have been posting my reads and thoughts. Not my fault you don't have the attention span to actually read the posts. You don't even need to really. All you do is end up coming right back at me.

Where. talk is cheap, show me some examples


You're a big boy, you know how to get to the filters.

I have been posting my reads and thoughts. I was the first to post my case on N_T I gave lots of reasons why he should be lynched. So far he hasn't done much to convince me otherwise.

I also explained why I thought you should be killed. The first half of the game you were using those quotes and ignoring people who talked to you directly. You had close to no feedback and weren't giving reads or making any cases. Eventually you broke and conviently chose to attack on of your attackers. Text book Mafia play.
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