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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
February 07 2012 17:10 GMT
#20
Pm game with the best possible fluff? I am so

/in
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
February 08 2012 16:52 GMT
#44


Just as a pre-emptive meta note, I'm deliberately going to work on not spamming this game. I'm still going to be highly active, but having 30 pages of filter in a 150 page game with 18 players is not gonna happen this time around. I consider this important to improving my game. So if someone's like "Blazinghand isn't spamming, he must be scum" I want you to bear in mind that I'm not spamming either way this game.

*everyone breathes a sigh of relief*
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
February 08 2012 21:40 GMT
#54
On February 09 2012 04:41 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 01:52 Blazinghand wrote:


Just as a pre-emptive meta note, I'm deliberately going to work on not spamming this game. I'm still going to be highly active, but having 30 pages of filter in a 150 page game with 18 players is not gonna happen this time around. I consider this important to improving my game. So if someone's like "Blazinghand isn't spamming, he must be scum" I want you to bear in mind that I'm not spamming either way this game.

*everyone breathes a sigh of relief*


Can we call you scum if you start spamming then? I will endeavour to do some similar this game. I am not happy with my style from my first game. I am trying to change but it is harder than I thought.


If I start spamming, please, take my life immediately, so that I cannot reach the keyboard to befoul an innocent mafia game with my profane utterances.
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Blazinghand *
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February 08 2012 21:59 GMT
#56
## Kill: Probulous
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Blazinghand *
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United States25558 Posts
February 08 2012 22:08 GMT
#58
Ok I've got it!

##Plant: Probulous

What now? Now you know you can't mess
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February 08 2012 22:41 GMT
#60

FOS: g403 for obvious "pretending to help" post to cover up his tiny filter
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Blazinghand *
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Last Edited: 2012-02-08 22:49:10
February 08 2012 22:48 GMT
#63
Hey Prob, do you treat a being a Mason the same as being a townie? I mean Masons naturally hide stuff from other people and create confusion so surely it is better to keep things in the thread. What is the advantage of a Masoning a player over a thread conversation particularly that you cannot guarantee the person you are talking to is town? In addition to this any and all trolls are going on my FOS list this game. I have yet to have someone explain how trolling is any different to lurking.
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February 09 2012 16:10 GMT
#75
On February 09 2012 21:04 froggynoddy wrote:
So, forgive me if I'm being clueless, but a PM game adds individual coercion/persuasion to the general confusion right? It also allows for sub-town groups to develop as DT checks are made and trust is formed between individuals. Is this how I should be approaching a PM game?


From BC's Guide: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=188179

Private Messaging

This feature has been in a fair number of TL games. It is also an amazing tool if used properly. However, if it is not used properly, the mafia will abuse it and potentially win. They are also a function if used improperly will cause people to feel left out and like they don’t matter as players. Pm’s can and do make people elitist in games. IF Pm’s are allowed in a game they should be used properly. Role fishing, small analysis groups, alignment testing.

Role fishing is straightforward so I will not go into it at this time.
Small analysis groups. These groups need not be large, as you only need a few heads to flesh out analysis on people. It also means that if a red is in your group, it is easier to catch them, and it keeps the other groups safe from infiltration.

Alignment testing. This is posting in a way to let you carefully analyze reactions. Townies are more inclined to answer in one way and mafia/blues another. Sometimes this will be obvious such as catching someone lying to you in pm’s or lying in thread. Other times this will be noticing subtle word choices.

Regardless of how you opt to use the tool, if you do not feel comfortable in your ability to use them properly do not use them and play the game via the thread. Ask for detail from Ace on this, as he dislikes the PM feature.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
February 11 2012 21:59 GMT
#92
On February 11 2012 20:55 froggynoddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 01:10 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:04 froggynoddy wrote:
So, forgive me if I'm being clueless, but a PM game adds individual coercion/persuasion to the general confusion right? It also allows for sub-town groups to develop as DT checks are made and trust is formed between individuals. Is this how I should be approaching a PM game?


From BC's Guide: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=188179

Private Messaging

This feature has been in a fair number of TL games. It is also an amazing tool if used properly. However, if it is not used properly, the mafia will abuse it and potentially win. They are also a function if used improperly will cause people to feel left out and like they don’t matter as players. Pm’s can and do make people elitist in games. IF Pm’s are allowed in a game they should be used properly. Role fishing, small analysis groups, alignment testing.

Role fishing is straightforward so I will not go into it at this time.
Small analysis groups. These groups need not be large, as you only need a few heads to flesh out analysis on people. It also means that if a red is in your group, it is easier to catch them, and it keeps the other groups safe from infiltration.

Alignment testing. This is posting in a way to let you carefully analyze reactions. Townies are more inclined to answer in one way and mafia/blues another. Sometimes this will be obvious such as catching someone lying to you in pm’s or lying in thread. Other times this will be noticing subtle word choices.

Regardless of how you opt to use the tool, if you do not feel comfortable in your ability to use them properly do not use them and play the game via the thread. Ask for detail from Ace on this, as he dislikes the PM feature.



Forgot to say thank you for finding that, so better late than never. Makes a lot of sense btw.


No problem! It's worth spending some time checking out the TL Mafia library in general when you have some time. There's good stuff in there.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
February 12 2012 19:10 GMT
#109
Hello.

/confirm

I prefer Skype. My skype name is Blazinghand.

A town Rabid Fanboy shouldn't be jumping out his ass to use his power because if he's still alive at LYLO (say, with 3 town and 1 scum) he can make it so a 1 town 1 scum situation is a town victory.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
February 13 2012 03:42 GMT
#150
On February 13 2012 07:56 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 04:10 Blazinghand wrote:
Hello.

/confirm

I prefer Skype. My skype name is Blazinghand.

A town Rabid Fanboy shouldn't be jumping out his ass to use his power because if he's still alive at LYLO (say, with 3 town and 1 scum) he can make it so a 1 town 1 scum situation is a town victory.


That's your logic for not using the rabid fanboy trait? That he may be wrong when he uses it near MYLO? Sorry son you have to do better than that. Fanboy should not be used because that person is deliberately acting against a town consensus. They make themselves look scummy as hell and (unless they have a green check, which outs them as a DT so why bother) they may have saved a red. This applies for the whole game, not just near MYLO.

BH, you can do better.


Um... wow the only thing I have to say here is that you're literally retarded. Like, you rode the short bus to school and there are special classes for you. But that's okay! I don't discriminate.

What I said: A Rabid Fanboy makes a 1 town 1 scum situation (where he is the town) a town victory, if he hasn't used his power. He can use it and win a 1 vs 1 vote.
What you said: "he may be wrong when he uses it near MYLO"

I... I don't even know how you misunderstood me. In any case, english is your second language so I will cut you some slack. Take a moment to check things out before being dissappointed though, and maybe use google translate if you're having trouble dealing with compound sentences.





On February 13 2012 05:46 Palmar wrote:
I think it's very scummy not to come on IRC. You scum Blazinghand?


I don't have a desktop IRC client, and using webirc won't make logs for me. Skype does, however. Is it such a pain for you to log into skype? We can even make chat rooms and shit so it shouldn't be a problem (though with those you'll want to copy/paste logs since people can edit previous IMs).
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
February 13 2012 05:00 GMT
#153
Oh uh if you're gonna be in like multiple channels, how do you stop someone from /whois ing you and like finding what other channels you're in? Can this be done with the webIRC client?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
February 13 2012 05:55 GMT
#157
On February 13 2012 14:51 Probulous wrote:
You didn't explain why it is ok to use it at other times


On February 13 2012 04:10 Blazinghand wrote:
he can make it so a 1 town 1 scum situation is a town victory.


ಠ_ಠ
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
February 13 2012 06:06 GMT
#159
HULK SMASH PUNY PROBULOUS
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
February 13 2012 08:01 GMT
#160
On February 13 2012 13:33 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 12:46 ghost_403 wrote:
Great, looks like I have to learn to use IRC. :/

its not much to learn.
/join #WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT
thats all you need


I'm gonna conserve you some time here and say ghost_403 is definitely scum if he can't figure out how to use some sort of chat program, irc, skype, something
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
February 13 2012 08:44 GMT
#163
On February 13 2012 17:28 Lanaia wrote:
So, a couple things I don't like so far, all involving blazinghand.

Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 14:00 Blazinghand wrote:
Oh uh if you're gonna be in like multiple channels, how do you stop someone from /whois ing you and like finding what other channels you're in? Can this be done with the webIRC client?

This kinda makes it feel like he's trying to make a scum channel. I mean, I don't see what you'd need to hide from everyone as town. Unless you're trying to make a PR circle, which I can't say I'd imagine would work well in this setup...

Also,
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 17:01 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 13 2012 13:33 Kenpachi wrote:
On February 13 2012 12:46 ghost_403 wrote:
Great, looks like I have to learn to use IRC. :/

its not much to learn.
/join #WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT
thats all you need


I'm gonna conserve you some time here and say ghost_403 is definitely scum if he can't figure out how to use some sort of chat program, irc, skype, something


How the hell would that make him scum?

Thus far, not liking mr blazinghand.


ah yes you're right a scum player without access to a scum QT would totally come into the main thread to coordinate with his scumteammates you are a very smart person
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
February 13 2012 08:47 GMT
#164
On February 13 2012 17:44 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 17:28 Lanaia wrote:
So, a couple things I don't like so far, all involving blazinghand.

On February 13 2012 14:00 Blazinghand wrote:
Oh uh if you're gonna be in like multiple channels, how do you stop someone from /whois ing you and like finding what other channels you're in? Can this be done with the webIRC client?

This kinda makes it feel like he's trying to make a scum channel. I mean, I don't see what you'd need to hide from everyone as town. Unless you're trying to make a PR circle, which I can't say I'd imagine would work well in this setup...

Also,
On February 13 2012 17:01 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 13 2012 13:33 Kenpachi wrote:
On February 13 2012 12:46 ghost_403 wrote:
Great, looks like I have to learn to use IRC. :/

its not much to learn.
/join #WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT
thats all you need


I'm gonna conserve you some time here and say ghost_403 is definitely scum if he can't figure out how to use some sort of chat program, irc, skype, something


How the hell would that make him scum?

Thus far, not liking mr blazinghand.


ah yes you're right a scum player without access to a scum QT would totally come into the main thread to coordinate with his scumteammates you are a very smart person


EBWOP: on further speculation, it occurs to me that a scum guy would just talk in his QT with his fellow scum teammates there. HUH. HOW ABOUT THAT. Oh what's that blazinghand? maybe there would be some benefit to masking the name of the channel you're using to coordinate your group of analyzers from possible scums /whoising you in the #TLmafia channel? Oh, huh, never mind, disregard my previous post, it looks like blazinghand is a totally helpful town player and lanaia is talking out her ass
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
February 13 2012 15:20 GMT
#187
On February 13 2012 22:41 prplhz wrote:
Didn't you say you were not going to act this way in this game? What made you decide to act this way anyway?


Act what way? thanks for the help by the way

On February 13 2012 23:39 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't think Blazinghand is stupid enough to ask in the thread how to create secret channels on irc if he was intending on using it to communicate with scum.


Ah thank you for the stirring defense
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
February 13 2012 15:53 GMT
#192
On February 14 2012 00:43 froggynoddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
Also I don´t understand why Palmar wants sinani206 and prplhz killed. I can´t see this helping town in any way. A town player (even a useless one) at least counts as townie. So why should we kill someone, if we don´t gain anything?


From my reading of other games its worthwhile, particularly at this relatively random stage of early game, to get rid of anyone harming toen, confrimed scum or not (unless obv there is a better/scumier alternative) as that 'useless townie' is causing confusion and therefore aiding scum agenda.

At leasts thats my understanding, any vets wish to confirm/deny/shove my head in dung for being stupid?


There's also the fact that if someone's legitimately not posting or PMing, it's hard to pin them down / get reads on them right? So if we can lynch a hard-to-read townie or scum player, we enter D2 with substantially less confusion. If someone has a solid and traceable voting/posting history you can get some serious talking going on.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
February 13 2012 15:56 GMT
#194
On February 14 2012 00:54 froggynoddy wrote:
Once I get home though I wanna check Palmar and BH's previous games as they both have been acting quite aggressive.


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