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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 01 2012 23:49 GMT
#92
Oh yeah, itching to get a game going.

/in
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 05 2012 22:17 GMT
#151
/confirm
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 06 2012 09:47 GMT
#232
On February 06 2012 16:50 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Way to go claiming Joker. Don't do that. We lose one vig for .,.... nothing, cuz Batman is helping us regardless of the situation. And his task isn't to shoot scum, it's to shoot 1 particular scum. He won't risk giving off info for the sake of helping town, he's 3rd party after all and only cares for his win. It's likely he'll DT ppl till he finds Hugo.And he can't hint at being batman at all.

Anyone who claims being town or any blue D1 should be considered for a lynch.It's stupid,useless,and full of WIFOM-Helps scum a ton.

For the lack of a proper Random Voting Stage, I vote Kenpachi.

Considering the current situation, it's justified and if it goes through, we'll have info at least. There's no mayoral elections so setup chat and strategies shouldn't make scum stick out too much in the thread. This, instead will.

I feel Day 1 someone always gets lynched for beingcarelessandthat someone is almost always a townie.So, it doesn't do any harm at all to ramp the pressure now instead of later in the day when we will be hard-pressed for time and are likely to make hasty decisions.

That´s not random voting, you are obviously voting for someone you think did something odd. This is a normal vote, except that at the same time you are not putting any pressure behind it. If you are doing a pressure vote, then pressure, don´t just immediately remove any pressure there might have been there.

I´m agreeing with Cyber_Cheese on this one, rgTheSchworz is acting weird.

##Vote: rgTheSchworz



Overall, that´s it for now, until more people report in. There´s a few things I find odd though, VisceraEyes with his Deadeye question for example, does he really think there´s a scum-vigi that can shoot roles?
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 06 2012 13:13 GMT
#266
Tunkeg, setup-discussion doesn´t help Town, takes too much time and energy from scumhunting, and allow scum to blend in. Instead, could you tell me what you think about the other players? What do you think about VE, Kenpachi, and rgTheSchworz?
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 06 2012 13:35 GMT
#273
Stealthvote detected!

On February 06 2012 22:21 -_-Quails wrote:
##vote rgTheSchworz

Qualis, please explain your reasoning for voting for Schworz without mentioning it in here, especially since the only FoS I´ve seen from you is on Sheth.
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 06 2012 14:19 GMT
#289
On February 06 2012 22:36 Tunkeg wrote:
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On February 06 2012 22:13 Forumite wrote:
Tunkeg, setup-discussion doesn´t help Town, takes too much time and energy from scumhunting, and allow scum to blend in. Instead, could you tell me what you think about the other players? What do you think about VE, Kenpachi, and rgTheSchworz?



Kenpachi and rgTS I think I said my view on in my opening post:
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On February 06 2012 18:23 Tunkeg wrote:
Batman/Catwomen

AS DrH said so prematurely discussing Batman and Catwomen is a day 1 topic, which we shouldn't dwell to much on. Both (and Catwomen especially) getting lynched is good for town, especially if they are hitting each night instead of using their DT skill. But we will have a hard time knowing that they are a thirdparty, as any DT checks will show the role they chose to show, and Batman probably will look like any other townie/blue and Catwomen might apear more on the scummy side (from their posting). So I say lets just ignore the third parties for now and just scumhunt as usual, trying to hit red.

Kenpachi townie claim

He does this every game, and it means nothing. I find it much much more suspicious that people are making a big deal out of this. And rgTS reason for voting for him is the thinnest reason I have ever seen. It is not scumhunting, it is not applying pressure, it is just plain distracting.


Bill Murray's mass claim

On February 06 2012 15:52 Bill Murray wrote:
That being said, I want to massclaim. It really backs scum up into having to fake names. It's a video game/fictional universe, how many characters are there, or would I be surprised?



Are you joking? Massclaiming in a semi-open set up like this? We know what roles might be in the game, but it is not likely every role is in the game. Scum might have gotten a few examples of what roles are in the game (or maybe all?), and could then easily just sit back and get one of their members to do a fake claim. This would make the whole massclaim thing only beneficial to scum as:

A) The blueclaims wouldn't give confirmed townies. Or if town belive this to give confirmed townies, a scum is now suddenly confirmed townie.

B) Scum, Batman and Catwomen now knows who to target at night. We would maybe lose as much as 5 blues in one night. The whole confirmed townie thing would just cost us alot of townies, and these "confirmed" townies will be dead before they get to do any impact on the game.

This proposed massclaim make me suspect be either scum or thirdparty, as those are the only ones IMO who benefits from it.

#FOS Bill Murray


But I don't really see why people are voting for either one of them as of now. Sure I don't agree on rgTS vote on kenpachi and his reasoning behind it (RnG and stuff), but to go from there to him beeing scum is a bit far fetched.

VE haven't posted more then one post thus far and I have no opinion on him what so ever.

Got it, thanks.

On February 06 2012 22:51 -_-Quails wrote:
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On February 06 2012 22:35 Forumite wrote:
Stealthvote detected!

On February 06 2012 22:21 -_-Quails wrote:
##vote rgTheSchworz

Qualis, please explain your reasoning for voting for Schworz without mentioning it in here, especially since the only FoS I´ve seen from you is on Sheth.

Did you read the rest of that post?
For your benefit:
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On February 06 2012 22:10 -_-Quails wrote:
rg's posts were far scummier though. He attacked using reasoning provided by someone else plus weirdness about RVS and this quote:
On February 06 2012 17:18 rgTheSchworz wrote:
I personally doubt that he's a blue trying to hide by claiming green, so scum know his role already.


Explicit reasons:
Objective: rgTheSchworz recycled an argument in order to attack KenPatchi. This is not a pro-town thing to do.

Subjective: rgTheSchworz reacted to the vanilla claim in a way that raised my hackles, as did Sheth but Sheth used his own reasoning rather than recycling and so is less suspicious.

Objective: That quote. player A knows -> mafia knows -> player A is mafia

My bad, missed that line in your post.

Do you think rgTheSchworz scumslipped? That line could mean several things. It could mean that he was defending against anyone thinking Kenpachi is blue and should therefore be left alone, by saying that Kenpachi couldn´t be blue because of how he acted, and must therefore Town or Scum, in which case Scum knows his role. Weird line of thought, but not necessarily a scumslip.
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 07 2012 12:07 GMT
#464
WBG, rg looks bad, he´s definetly still on the scumlist, but I´ve changed my mind about him since voting. His "scumslip" was a weak case to begin with, and not even voting Kenpachi or lying about making a random vote on Kenpachi is really enough to lynch on. I´m leaning Newbie Town on him right now.

##unvote: rgTheSchworz
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 07 2012 14:35 GMT
#504
On February 07 2012 21:54 Palmar wrote:
We should totally be discussing lynching Hiro, VE or Sheth. At the moment, I'm leaning towards lynching sheth. I see no reason to believe he's town this game. He's posting speculations and questions, mostly just useless fluff, and there is nothing to it that gives me any feeling he could be town.

It's too careful, and too forced.

##Vote Sheth

Why didn´t you follow this up with a vote in the voting thread?
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 07 2012 15:11 GMT
#514
I´ve had a feeling about Sheth since the start of the game, too much policy, too little talk grounded in the thread. He looks like someone who doesn´t know what to say to look like he´s contributing, thus all the talk about policy.

In this I agree with Palmar, who I think has been looking more Town since he took the game seriously and stopped trolling (so much).

##vote Liquid`Sheth
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 08 2012 01:31 GMT
#754
On February 08 2012 08:59 layabout wrote:
Fuck it
##Vote: Kurumi
i do not want town blood on my hands! These lynches suck

If you think someone is Town, then you defend them, you don´t just say the lynch sucks. Scum cast blame on Town that mislynch, Town try to prevent the lynch in the first place.

I´m leaving my own vote on Sheth. It´s good that he´s finally returned to post, but I´m still leaning scum.
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 08 2012 01:50 GMT
#770
On February 08 2012 10:33 Kurumi wrote:
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On February 08 2012 10:31 Forumite wrote:
On February 08 2012 08:59 layabout wrote:
Fuck it
##Vote: Kurumi
i do not want town blood on my hands! These lynches suck

If you think someone is Town, then you defend them, you don´t just say the lynch sucks. Scum cast blame on Town that mislynch, Town try to prevent the lynch in the first place.

I´m leaving my own vote on Sheth. It´s good that he´s finally returned to post, but I´m still leaning scum.

Forumite, You have posted a lot less that I expected You to. I think You're actively lurking.

I´d like to say that I´m not posting much because I don´t want to flood the thread more than it allready is, but it´s actually because I´ve been busy, and most of the time I have goes into catching up in the thread. Being out of practice might be part of it too, I´ve hosted lately, instead of playing, which is much less stressfull.

Is there anything specific that you´d like me to post?
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 08 2012 17:07 GMT
#971
For what it´s worth, I´ll consider Toad town for now. At least it makes some kind of sense for a Townie to claim Two-face, unlike Scum or Catwoman doing the same. I expect him to die soon, then we´ll know for sure, so no need to waste time discussing or a day lynching him. If Scum or Catwoman want him dead, then they can kill him themselves, we shouldn´t give them a hand.
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 08 2012 20:43 GMT
#1140
On February 09 2012 04:39 layabout wrote:
what have i just read?

If you are on Jackal's list can you please confirm/deny it's existence, it can only help town.

I´m on his list, and I´m in the phone-thread, nice place to visit, but I wouldn´t want to live there. Palmar is there too, so is risk.nuke, and they are trying to kill eachother in the quicktopic too.
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 08 2012 21:01 GMT
#1148
On February 09 2012 05:57 rgTheSchworz wrote:
And QT thing is legal and real?

I was sent the link by BC, so I should think it is legal.
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 08 2012 21:24 GMT
#1179
On February 09 2012 06:12 layabout wrote:
how so we handle this tri-claim then?

We leave it until tomorrow, hoping that no blues among the three die during the night.

On February 09 2012 06:13 rgTheSchworz wrote:
I am 100% not bullshitting. This is my role. I am not fooling around.
I seriously think that some scum or 3rd party have infiltrated the blueclaims hardcore.

Fine, you are Two-Face number three. Is there anything we can do about that until tomorrow? Apart from painting a big target on yourself, what good did this do?

On February 09 2012 06:20 Palmar wrote:
I retract my claim. CW, go nuts.

Sigh...
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 08 2012 21:34 GMT
#1190
On February 09 2012 06:29 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Toad, you are CW or a VT|Vet, whos playing stupid.
Leaning towards CW atm, because you claimed at a point where some claims happened and sneaking in the ,,blues,, as a VT|Vet makes a tiny bit of sense, but not much, as there were a ton of targets for scum and CW.

No, it´s you who played stupid. Either he´s scum/CW trying to draw you out, or Town protecting you, in none of those situation is claiming the right thing to do.
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 08 2012 21:48 GMT
#1196
On February 09 2012 06:45 Slardar wrote:
Can someone or Bloodyc0bbler please address my question? BC if you want to PM me about it(if that's acceptable) please do.

Obviously there is more to this game than what the OP says, BC has allready confirmed this by saying that the Neighbor-circle is legit. I doubt you´ll learn anything more, but if you want to get BCs attention, use green bolded text.
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 09 2012 01:23 GMT
#1244
Chaoser, could clearing up the mess with the three Two-Faces wait until tomorrow? I think there´s some weird things going on there still, but I wouldn´t mind waiting until after the nightkills have been sent to get to the bottom of it. There are 3 people claiming Two-Face, why not let CW and Scum have their fun trying to figure it out for themselves for now?
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 09 2012 01:46 GMT
#1248
On February 09 2012 10:30 chaoser wrote:
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On February 09 2012 10:23 Forumite wrote:
Chaoser, could clearing up the mess with the three Two-Faces wait until tomorrow? I think there´s some weird things going on there still, but I wouldn´t mind waiting until after the nightkills have been sent to get to the bottom of it. There are 3 people claiming Two-Face, why not let CW and Scum have their fun trying to figure it out for themselves for now?


Yah yah, I got it. I was actually not going to push the issue anymore but your post in the phonebooth got me confused about why he would fakeclaim and then drop the issue. More than happy to let the day come and settle some of the issues that have happened lol.

Sorry about that. From one way it looks like a big Town mess, then scum rooting out a vigi, then I start to wonder if it isn´t the other way around, an orchestrated 3-way Town trick. It´s all WIFOM, but we´ll know what it was really about tomorrow. Probably.

About 2 hours, 15 minutes until deadline, right?
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 09 2012 10:49 GMT
#1415
On February 09 2012 18:36 Toadesstern wrote:
My play was ingenious and Schworz ruined it for no good reason. I also think if he really is Two-Face he would have known what I'm up to.

No, you ruined things for Schworz. If you were trying to defend Two-Face, then you wouldn´t have taken back your claim when Schworz claimed. You made him a bigger target, when what you should have done is still claim Two-Face, then explain in the morning. Taking back your claim suggests that either you are the true Two-Face, or you don´t care about Schworz being nightkilled. I´m leaning towards the second one.

On February 09 2012 18:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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On February 09 2012 18:42 Tunkeg wrote:
On February 09 2012 18:40 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 09 2012 18:38 Palmar wrote:
What shit?

what was going on yesterday. What do you think about the fact that a claimed DT is telling us a blue role of ours is in fact red?
Could you think of a plausible reason for a townie to tell us a blue is actually a red role?


Why don't you call DrH a claimed blue as well, when you call rgTS a claimed DT. Neither of them are confirmed...

Because the language I used in my posts refers to Toadessterns role PM specifically. I checked with BC a great deal to make sure that we would have enough similarities in our PM for me to be able to confirm myself to him as well.

Bullshit, breadcrumbing parts of your rolePM is a modkill offence, lying about breadcrumbing is not however. I don´t believe BC gave you two a free pass until I see it in the thread.

On February 09 2012 16:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Alright, BC also says that no mechanics of a persons own role will be hidden from them. Meaning if you are an insane DT you would know it. Is there any chances that your checks are not completely reliable rG?

BC also confirmed that there are no outside influences that could change the result of a check on me (framing power). If I'm wrong about any of this BC pleas
So as far as I see it there are only two possibilities. rGTheSchworz is lying or rGTheScworz is insane.

Or the two of you and Toades are lying. Except for his read coming up as Quilty, rather than a role, is the only thing that looks weird about Schworz, otherwise he acts exactly like I would expect a Town Newbie seeing someone else fakeclaim his role would do.On the other hand you and Toades are giving off several scumsigns, drawing out a blue and then trying to get him killed. If either side is scum, then I´m leaning towards DocH and Toades.

##vote DoctorHelvetica
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