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On December 11 2011 17:51 GiygaS wrote: Before we even start playing I'm going to get this out of the way so it doesn't pop up as an excuse. This is my second game of Mafia, and my last game was a VERY long time ago. I probably won't be any good, so if I ask for some more info on a scum tell you just allude to the definition of, don't tear me a new one. Thanks  the perfect preemptive cover for being scum?! | ||
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Alright, I'm not going to be running for mayor or pardoner or anything. I'm going to be voting for one of the hydras, in all likelihood-- from my experience, multi-person players (especially with experienced, devoted mafia players behind them) can absolutely wreck games like this. Having a pro-town hydra behind a bodyguard should be town's goal for today, in my opinion. Could we start discussing in advance how the pardoner should be used? I remember the pardoner being a pretty controversial role in the last game I played with one, so it'd be good if we could get people talking about how he should behave *before* we elect one. It seems to me that having a pardoner that can pardon *twice* is ridiculously powerful, and could probably win scum the game outright if a red got that spot. If anything, the person who gets pardoner needs to propose and discuss their actions in advance-- any sort of surprise pardoning of a lynch candidate needs to result in an immediate lynch of the pardoner. | ||
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I'm not going to lie, I generally don't really have any clue what's going on day 1, and this game is no exception. I like prpl and Deus' posting. People have called out zeks a few times, and if you filter his posts it's clearly not without reason-- he went from not wanting a rad/arc office to, twelve hours later, voting for both of them. When questioned about it, he sidesteps the issue entirely. Trying to lay low like that after silently making such a big swing in his stance isn't something I'm comfortable seeing, so I'm throwing my lynch vote on him now. I want to see this guy under more pressure! | ||
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On December 13 2011 09:24 GreYMisT wrote: What do you think about my post on Jitsu? Jitsu wasn't really on my radar at all-- your arguments against him don't really point to anything weird in my eyes. On December 13 2011 09:28 zeks wrote: Initially I didnt want Rad + Arc because of the potential for bad things and how Rad had linked themselves before Arc made a post but I was always down for Rad from the get go Jeez am I not allowed to change my mind through the course of the game? As of RIGHT NOW I don't care who's pardoner as long as its a vet and Rad gets mayor How have I been laying low? I've answered all if not most of the questions directed at me and thrown my head out there. However you have posted next to nothing and one of your posts was You said you were voting for one of the hydras and now you're voting Radfield. This is the same crap you're accusing me for. You come out of the wallcracks to throw a 2nd vote on me to get the wagon rolling after GiygaS voted for me. Suspicious You're perfectly allowed to change your mind any time you want! The thing that stuck out is that you changed your mind silently, and when confronted about it sidestepped the issue completely. I would be voting for one of the hydras (arc specifically) if he wasn't already going to be in the pardoner's spot, which is just where I'd like him to be! I'm accusing you of going from *not* wanting Rad/arc to be elected at all to trying to vote for them with some questionable handwaving-- I wasn't even considering rad at the time of my first post, based on his one vote-for-me post. | ||
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On December 13 2011 12:00 MrZentor wrote: Hola! After reading this, I decided to post again. Because apparently one post isn't enough, here's my second one. :p Anyways, I think we should lynch zeks. He wants to kill the hydra, because it will be "dangerous for the town", but having the hydra only helps town. He is either extremely stupid or he is mafia. Either way, it's best to kill him. I already stated my view on who should be elected and voted for said person. Now I'm voting you for lynch :D | ||
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On December 13 2011 13:23 GreYMisT wrote: Building off Eii's accusations, here you say that either zeks is stupid or mafia, then you nonchalantly say that we should lynch him because he is the all we have at the moment in the next post. To me this doesnt look like an accusation or pressure, to me this looks like someone jumping on an easy wagon. he says as he hops on my easy bandwagon | ||
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On December 13 2011 15:09 GiygaS wrote: 4) Eiii: #1 Not really strong, as it's been pretty well defended with good logic, but it's some circumstantial evidence nonetheless: + Show Spoiler + On December 12 2011 13:29 Eiii wrote: I'm going to be voting for one of the hydras, in all likelihood-- from my experience, multi-person players (especially with experienced, devoted mafia players behind them) can absolutely wreck games like this. Having a pro-town hydra behind a bodyguard should be town's goal for today, in my opinion. On December 13 2011 09:09 Eiii wrote: I'm going to be voting Radfield for mayor/pardoner. He would be good to have in either role, and now that he's posted some more I'm pretty confident that he's legit. If anyone hasn't looked at the election voting thread yet, it's literally all rad/arc, so it looks like our candidates are decided unless anyone has some major objections. Why not vote for the hydra (the kind of person you want in?) You even mention the perfect candidate in Arc :/ #2: Already making excuses: + Show Spoiler + On December 13 2011 09:09 Eiii wrote: I'm not going to lie, I generally don't really have any clue what's going on day 1, and this game is no exception. There is literally no reason for a town to say this. The only reason I can actually come up with this is: A) Adding fluff, which is Mafia logic B) Setting up an excuse if he get's caught on anything in Day 1 #3 He kind of hopped on my Zeks bandwagon :/ Overall this is only enough for an FoS, but I want to see how he responds: FoS on Eiii hey let's look at the words I'm saying! I said I want a hydra behind a bodyguard-- why, that's right where arc would be if he were to secure the pardoner spot :o And yeah, I said I have no clue what to do day one because I don't-- and to anyone really paying attention, it would kind of explain my behavior at the moment. As you might be able to tell from the shortlived vote on zeks or the current clearly completely committal (4x combo) vote for zentor, I was trying to do the same thing you're doing here-- that is, just put pressure on people who might, in their reaction, give me a better idea of what side they're on. It doesn't really work if you claim it as you're doing it, though :x And now look, you put my name in red and throw some fos at me. EVEN AFTER On December 13 2011 15:09 GiygaS wrote: 5) Jitsu: I really don't see any merit to what Greymist has been saying. They are just really weak arguments against someone IMO YOU jump on MY greymist's-analysis-isn't-meaningfully-siginifcant bandwagon!! I think that's three now, right? | ||
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On December 13 2011 16:36 GiygaS wrote: So let's get this staight you have now used your inexperience as an excuse even though I said in the post you quoted that you had planted that in the first place AS an excuse to be used in the future, which you have now done... ok. Second, the Greymist "bandwagon" isn't even that. A bandwagon is when somebody votes for somebody or FoSes them or something and someone jumps on that bandwagon with little to no real reasoning behind their decision other than, "yeah he's got good points". I don't think anyone has actually truly considered greymist's points on Jitsu atm, based on him just saying what do you think of my points on Jitsu? over and over and over again. This is NOT a Bandwagon whatsoever, it's actually just saying I see no merit in the ideas, which a lot of other people have said before, but nonetheless he was a candidate. You were NOT the creator of this so-called bandwagon, I would argue it's the people who have been ignoring Greymist's post until prompted would be the people. You take this game much more seriously than I do. One part of my post was a joke! See if you can figure out which it was. Also I don't really understand how your first point quoted here relates to anything I've said or defended myself with! Inexperience? I've got plenty of experience, and it's all me fucking up day one trying too hard and looking too much into small things when there's nothing significant I'd be able to point out without looking like an idiot. So instead, I did the pressure-some-guy-who-looks-sort-of-sketchy thing. *Now* do you get it? | ||
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STOP VOTING FOR NISANI, HE HASN'T DONE ANYTHING SCUMMY | ||
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I think removing Eiii is an awful idea! And I don't think 201 is scummy because he straight-up hasn't done anything scummy. He hasn't contributed, sure, and he's lurked a lot-- but if he hasn't developed significantly as a player since I last played with him, that is exactly what I would expect him to do as town. We have better targets to lynch today than a lurking townie. | ||
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On December 14 2011 11:32 GreYMisT wrote: Looking through Spaakle's filter I can't find much, why is everyone clamoring for him again? Because radfield threw his name out, and he has some questionable analysis and nothing else despite a good number of posts. | ||
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On December 15 2011 00:31 prplhz wrote: I think it is weird that Nisani201 wasn't lynched last night, when MrZentor was shot down he should have been a very easy guy to switch to but his wagon never picked up speed and instead a ton of people jumped on Spaaackle. Why the blatant contradiction? Nisani201 didn't do ANYTHING in between these two posts. Yep! I changed my mind, and him doing nothing was exactly what made me flip on him. I played with him in his first game a while back, and he played more or less exactly as he did now-- inactive, and pretty useless. I had expected him to develop as a player in that time... but once his name got brought up and I started actually paying more attention to his posts (or lack thereof) it became pretty clear that he was playing exactly the same as when I first played with him. I still think him/visc are town, and Visc instead of him is a pretty big win in my book. On December 15 2011 01:39 Arctocod wrote: Hello Eiii prplhz pointed out your radical change of mind. you should be receiving your gift soon enough. Please accept it, or the consequences for you will be... mortal. On December 15 2011 02:29 GiygaS wrote: Eii, I sent you a package with the same contents as Arc's, we want to know your opinion on this info. I've only received one package! Anyway, this is probably the meanest mechanic in any game I've played because there's like an 80% chance that this'll blow up and kill me and a 0% chance that I'll be able to resist opening the box either way. If I die, I'm going to be making a very angry face at you two. HERE WE GO | ||
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