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Ret: "Hopefully the European scene keeps developing"

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ScHniPPaH
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany46 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 14:04:57
August 07 2011 13:49 GMT
#1
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fragster sat down with (Z)Ret and talked with him about his play at the EU Battle.net Invitational and the development of the game and it's scene.

-> To the interview (be aware of spoilers according EU Battle.NET Invitational)

Some impressions:

be aware of spoilers according EU Battle.NET Invitational

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fragster: Hello Ret. Going in the tournament do you felt confident to win one of the tickets to the BlizzCon?

Joseph 'Ret' de Kroon: I would be one of the contenders. I really feel the crucial match was against NaNiwa because my ZvP is probably my weakest matchup and NaNiwa is one of the best Protoss in Europe so after I defeated him I knew I would have a good chance against ThorZaIN in the final.

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If you practise one month eight hours a day straight: What do you think, could you be one of the best players in the world or what potential do you think you would have?

Ret: It is pointless to say because practise is one of the skills people have but I am obviously not the best at taking time to practise and give everything. But I think I can always be one of the best players outside of Korea, I don't know about comepeting with the Koreans. As we saw at the last MLG they are far ahead now. No one can touch them, they just keep playing more and more and talking to each other and perfecting everything. It's gonna be really hard, not just for me, but for everyone to keep up. Hopefully the European scene keep developing, the US scene keep developing. I hope a lot of new talents show up, because right now it feels like you playing with the old people from Broodwar and Warcraft 3. Everyone playing for so long they're kinda happy where they are, there are only a couple of people who really want to push thereselves, want to reach new hights. But I think we really need those people and if we really work together we can do it.


Enjoy reading the whole interview! (Be aware of spoilers about the European Battle.NET invitational)

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ScHniPPaH
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany46 Posts
August 07 2011 13:51 GMT
#2
sry for the topic typo.
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
August 07 2011 13:59 GMT
#3
Thanks for the interview. I'm sure some mod can change the topic name
Fleshcut
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany592 Posts
August 07 2011 14:05 GMT
#4
I love this kind of speech where some complete baller (and Ret is definitely one!) says something motivating and right now I feel like training 8h a day for at least one month. But sadly I suck and I cant focus on anything for longer than 2 minutes. I envy people who are on top of everything.
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 14:10:03
August 07 2011 14:06 GMT
#5
I just feel sad that it seems like Naniwa and Huk seem to be 2 of maybe 5 or 10 foreigners that are actually self motivated to become better or on par with the Korean scene. I hope some of the other talent does come up as Ret says but these people who are still in the scene from BW should step it up and show us their true potential.

Thanks for the interview.

On August 07 2011 23:05 Fleshcut wrote:
I love this kind of speech where some complete baller (and Ret is definitely one!) says something motivating and right now I feel like training 8h a day for at least one month. But sadly I suck and I cant focus on anything for longer than 2 minutes. I envy people who are on top of everything.


Don't envy...respect and then strive and put work in to get better.
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leakingpear
Profile Joined March 2006
United Kingdom302 Posts
August 07 2011 14:31 GMT
#6
Please proof read your interviews
m0s1n0
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany575 Posts
August 07 2011 15:01 GMT
#7
On August 07 2011 23:31 leakingpear wrote:
Please proof read your interviews


keep chilled for the moment. We just checked it shortly and are proofreading it at the moment again

It´s all a bit stressfull at the moment, because of the two events at one time
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ScHniPPaH
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany46 Posts
August 07 2011 18:56 GMT
#8
the heat ... should be better now. thx for the info
some stuff should be follow the next days, so be sure to check back. seeya @gamescom
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
August 07 2011 19:11 GMT
#9
Thanks for the interview. Ret streaming again... delicious As long as it doesn't harm tourney performance.
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m0s1n0
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany575 Posts
August 07 2011 20:13 GMT
#10
On August 08 2011 04:11 Badjas wrote:
Thanks for the interview. Ret streaming again... delicious As long as it doesn't harm tourney performance.


Don´t think it will. For example at Assembly about 500 people were surfing and streaming at the same time and the performance was still brilliant.
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godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
August 07 2011 20:20 GMT
#11
I hope a lot of new talents show up, because right now it feels like you're playing with the old people from Broodwar and Warcraft 3

This seems to be the problem with the western scene, no new talents, whereas Korea has new talents (many former BW and also youngster like maruprime who is only 14 and qualified for code A) flowing into its scene.
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
August 07 2011 20:29 GMT
#12
On August 08 2011 05:13 m0s1n0 wrote:
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On August 08 2011 04:11 Badjas wrote:
Thanks for the interview. Ret streaming again... delicious As long as it doesn't harm tourney performance.


Don´t think it will. For example at Assembly about 500 people were surfing and streaming at the same time and the performance was still brilliant.

I mean in regards to showing your play style to anyone who watches, or compromise on practice to negate that. Could also meta-game someone, though.
I <3 the internet, I <3 you
m0s1n0
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany575 Posts
August 07 2011 21:05 GMT
#13
On August 08 2011 05:29 Badjas wrote:
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On August 08 2011 05:13 m0s1n0 wrote:
On August 08 2011 04:11 Badjas wrote:
Thanks for the interview. Ret streaming again... delicious As long as it doesn't harm tourney performance.


Don´t think it will. For example at Assembly about 500 people were surfing and streaming at the same time and the performance was still brilliant.

I mean in regards to showing your play style to anyone who watches, or compromise on practice to negate that. Could also meta-game someone, though.


Ah okay, i just missunderstanded you a bit :D

Don´t know if the players streaming much are showing of their special tactics (to say it in white-ras words ) in these ladder games
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