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DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 20 2011 17:23 GMT
#32
/in

first game to be played on here. played way too many games on POG. look forward to meeting some players and have some fun.
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 01:10 GMT
#77
i was a heavy post counter for werewolf games on 2+2's puzzles and other games. I'm not sure if i will continue that trend on here for mafia games.

I'm sure i will have to adjust to the play style on here. I've mostly played "vanilla games" and not "mish-mash games" which have creative roles. I have probably 100 or so vanilla games played and about 10 mish-mash games played.

I remember the first time a bunch of us played a game on mafiascum and we got into a flame war with the forum just because the style of the game is so different between forums. I am fairly elitist and think my own style is very good, but I'm ok with taking a backseat and learning the ropes on a new forum.

I will post some reads soon.


DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 01:59 GMT
#89
Jacinto and VisceraEyes look kind of scummy. Not sure on how much you guys have played though.

FOS (Finger of Suspicion) : Jacinto and Viscera. Ok this is the one and only time im going to use FOS...but i couldnt resist the first time. it's amusing to me in some way.

You guys look helpful but you're really not. Posts look a little forced. Jacinto looks a little better than Viscera.

I like Ace's posts.
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 02:23 GMT
#101
On July 22 2011 11:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On July 22 2011 10:59 DragonReborn422 wrote:
Jacinto and VisceraEyes look kind of scummy. Not sure on how much you guys have played though.

FOS (Finger of Suspicion) : Jacinto and Viscera. Ok this is the one and only time im going to use FOS...but i couldnt resist the first time. it's amusing to me in some way.

You guys look helpful but you're really not. Posts look a little forced. Jacinto looks a little better than Viscera.

I like Ace's posts.



All right Dragon, then we dispense with the pleasantries. I'm trying to create a pro-town environment. Tell me how that's scummy if you please. Clearly you agree with lynching randomly as Ace does, and his non-answer to my question apparently doesn't bother you because you're in perfect agreement about who you'd lynch given the reins. So let me pose this question to you, because I KNOW Ace has an answer for me.

What benefit does town get from lynching a random person?


I'm not necessarily in favor of a random lynch. However, a random lynch has a solid success rate. Given that this is a game with a fair amount of beginners, it can be very easy for the mafia to direct the kills in this game. Again, a lot of this depends on how much you have played...but it looks like you have some experience.

I think your posts look a little forced and look helpful to the casual eye but really isn't helpful. Objecting to a random lynch by saying we have a higher chance of finding a mafia sounds really nice in theory....but honestly...i doubt the town has a higher than 25% of finding a mafia on day 1.
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 02:43 GMT
#108
You're missing the point of my argument Viscera. I don't care if we do a random lynch or not. I found it strange that you protest it making you look scummy. That is all. Perhaps our chances of hitting the mafia is more than 25% perhaps not. Again, I don't care a lick about the lynch. I'm pointing out that you are trying to helpful to the inexperienced whereas you're actually not.
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 02:54 GMT
#113
On July 22 2011 11:49 Trotske wrote:
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On July 22 2011 11:43 DragonReborn422 wrote:
You're missing the point of my argument Viscera. I don't care if we do a random lynch or not. I found it strange that you protest it making you look scummy. That is all. Perhaps our chances of hitting the mafia is more than 25% perhaps not. Again, I don't care a lick about the lynch. I'm pointing out that you are trying to helpful to the inexperienced whereas you're actually not.


Could you point out the flaws in his reasoning? It seems to me that your posts have been more useless than his by bashing what he has to say and not supporting it at all other than saying "It has worked before" and not giving and evidence.


I haven't bashed anyone. What are you talking about? His reasoning is that the town can do better than a random lynch on day 1 and we should not random lynch. I don't care if we do a random lynch or not. Maybe THIS town CAN do better than a random lynch on day1. It could also DO worse than a random lynch on day1. I HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING WHICH.

I am pointing out that he appears helpful by saying that oh yea we can analayze and talk and discuss and we have a better chance of finding a mafia on day1. I think this looks pretty cool to the casual observer as yea...he sounds intelligent and useful...whereas in reality....we really don't know how good this town is. If we have a terrible town maybe we should just keeping randoming!!
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 02:55 GMT
#114
On July 22 2011 11:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
@Dragon

Actually, you're saying I'm not helpful to YOU. I've answered Jacinto's questions to his satisfaction, where Ace has still failed to do so. Palmar seems to think my opening statements were fine. You're speaking for town when you shouldn't be. Let town speak for themselves. Vote for me if you really think I'm scummy, but don't put words in everyone else' mouths. Let them think for themselves.


Put words into everyone's mouths? Please show me when I have done this?
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 03:03 GMT
#121
On July 22 2011 11:59 Trotske wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 11:54 DragonReborn422 wrote:
On July 22 2011 11:49 Trotske wrote:
On July 22 2011 11:43 DragonReborn422 wrote:
You're missing the point of my argument Viscera. I don't care if we do a random lynch or not. I found it strange that you protest it making you look scummy. That is all. Perhaps our chances of hitting the mafia is more than 25% perhaps not. Again, I don't care a lick about the lynch. I'm pointing out that you are trying to helpful to the inexperienced whereas you're actually not.


Could you point out the flaws in his reasoning? It seems to me that your posts have been more useless than his by bashing what he has to say and not supporting it at all other than saying "It has worked before" and not giving and evidence.


I haven't bashed anyone. What are you talking about? His reasoning is that the town can do better than a random lynch on day 1 and we should not random lynch. I don't care if we do a random lynch or not. Maybe THIS town CAN do better than a random lynch on day1. It could also DO worse than a random lynch on day1. I HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING WHICH.

I am pointing out that he appears helpful by saying that oh yea we can analayze and talk and discuss and we have a better chance of finding a mafia on day1. I think this looks pretty cool to the casual observer as yea...he sounds intelligent and useful...whereas in reality....we really don't know how good this town is. If we have a terrible town maybe we should just keeping randoming!!


How can the town do worse than a RL day1.


I'm not sure if that's a serious question. But I'll bite.

We can be led down the wrong path by inexperienced townspeople or experienced mafia players or the combination of both and easily have wagons on only townspeople. With the mafia members knowing whos who, they have an advantage on day 1 to control the wagons more.
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 03:08 GMT
#127
Trotske, I'm glad you found a reason...but again I have never in one way or another promoted a random lynch. I just find this discussion about it somewhat interesting.
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 03:10 GMT
#129
On July 22 2011 12:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 11:23 DragonReborn422 wrote:
I think your posts look a little forced and look helpful to the casual eye but really isn't helpful. Objecting to a random lynch by saying we have a higher chance of finding a mafia sounds really nice in theory....but honestly...i doubt the town has a higher than 25% of finding a mafia on day 1.


Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 11:43 DragonReborn422 wrote:
I'm pointing out that you are trying to helpful to the inexperienced whereas you're actually not.


You're continuing to insist that my posts aren't helpful to the inexperienced here in town. What you should be saying is that my posts aren't helpful to YOU. I'm not even TRYING to be helpful. I'm just posting what I've found from my limited experience what a beneficial environment to find scum in would be. Take it or leave it bro, that's totally up to you.


Actually your posts have been helpful to me. They have made you look scummy (to me of course).
And I've given you the reason why and apparently you're not satisfied. That's ok I guess.
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 03:18 GMT
#134
On July 22 2011 12:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
*shrugs* Half of town hasn't even showed up yet. We'll see who looks scummier when they have. At this point, I'm CERTAIN of Ace's alignment because he's so fucking good at this game and I'm Town...he'd be able to tell that even if he DIDN'T have more information to start.



I think you overrate how good players can be at this game. But even so...this is Day 1. See you should support a random lynch then because according to you..the experienced mafia player ace is leading the town to lynch you (presumably a townie).
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 03:24 GMT
#138
On July 22 2011 12:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's just incredible how even DISAGREEING with Ace makes one look scummy. What I'm MOST interested in is how quickly Dragon boarded the Ace Freeway To Town Death. Take notes guys, this is mafia GOLD here.


I haven't agreed or disagreed with anyone. Why do people keep making stuff up about what I've said.
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 03:28 GMT
#143
Then why do you say I'm on the Ace train? The only relationship I have with Ace is that we both have called you scummy. I was the first to do so because his initial post in wanting to lynch you and palmar was a joke. So if there's any train ... Ace is on my train.
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 03:29 GMT
#144
Please show me where I think random lynch is better. PLEASE. I would love to see this.
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 03:34 GMT
#149
On July 22 2011 12:31 aprudds wrote:
So VisceraEyes if your so against random lynch what would be your alternative? Sit around and do nothing while scum picks us off at night? Can you provide a better option backed up with reasoning other then "NO THATS BAD!!!!!"?


I don't really like this post. I don't really have anything concrete either. I mean this looks so scummy it can't actually be scummy right?

DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 03:36 GMT
#151
On July 22 2011 12:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On July 22 2011 12:29 DragonReborn422 wrote:
Please show me where I think random lynch is better. PLEASE. I would love to see this.


This is accurate - every post you've been VERY clear that you have NO opinion whatsoever.

Thanks for bringing that up.


Not trying to be mean....but a couple of people have already accused me of doing this or saying this or that. I keep having to repeat myself because you guys don't take the time to read the post thoroughly. If there is something confusing, I will be more than happy to explain.
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 03:51 GMT
#156
@Ace:

Does the 3 day rule apply to you? If you're still alive on day3 you're a mafia?
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 03:55 GMT
#158
your answer should be the same regardless of your role presumably. and thus you should be telling the truth.
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 04:03 GMT
#160
if "no" is the truth then that's fine. i'm honestly too lazy to go dig up other games and to see the meta and stuff of what's going on. the people that have played with you can also tell...
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 14:13 GMT
#173
um why would i show a strong stance on whether to random lynch or not. I thought the argument about it was pointless and hence why i thought viscera was scummy. I don't really even understand why we're still talking about this random lynch. we have no idea how good this town is at scum-hunting so the notion that omg we can nail a mafia 5/8 times is absurd.
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