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On July 19 2011 02:09 Mr. Wiggles wrote: /in Can I give you Drunk Batman? Only if its better than shitty batman from last game. | ||
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On July 24 2011 08:30 youngminii wrote: I thought of a role but I'm having trouble with the penalty. Can someone give me an example? I didn't play in PTP and I can't seem to find any penalties there. Look in PtP and bum's role. I built what was basically a penalty into his role. | ||
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Before anyone one goes "lets slow down here" He outright lied about his role, and we know based on a role flip that ON had a statement saying he was out to kill harry potter. As such the two should be opposite alignment, or at the very least, HP third party. As such he dies. We do not keep liars around, we do not keep people around who are on a quest to find bullshit items. Also whoever made my role, go die in a fire. ##vote jackal58 | ||
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On July 25 2011 14:13 DropBear wrote: At the risk of being mauled by youngminii, is there a reason why Foolishness is using TLPD in all his posts so far? Any reason why you chose to rhyme in your last post? Prob a random accidental click of tlpd | ||
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On July 25 2011 13:54 heist wrote: Guys, I'm not getting the hesitation on jackal. ON's role explicitly tells him to kill Harry Potter. ON is a confirmed townie, not some 3rd party with his own win agenda. Kill him right now, no need to use up the lynch. If Jackal is the lynch, it's insanely easy for the mafia to hide behind their vote for Jackal. I'm fairly certain YM is not scum if Jackal flips red. He had to have known that killing ON would turn the town against Jackal. Why would scum allow YM to kill ON especially as ON was basically powerless? Also if he was scum, I feel he would have used the stealth kill instead and remain role hidden. Jackal's flip does not reveal anything about YM. For all we know jackal is third party and YM is red. Jackal's flip reveals absolutely nothing about YM. Just because you wouldn't choose to do what YM did if you were red/third party does not mean he would not do it. | ||
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On July 25 2011 10:46 Jackal58 wrote: Please don't. Be aware-- Voldemort has disguised himself as a member of the town and is trying to collect the items. I'm Harry Potter. From: deconduo [ 2677 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ] Subject: PTP2 Role Date: 7/25/11 08:50 "You are Harry Potter, and you are on a mission to unite the three Deathly Hallows. Be aware-- Voldemort has disguised himself as a member of the town and is trying to collect the items, same as you! Each item you or Voldemort obtain will grant the holder a power, but unfortunately you can only use one item per night. The Elder Wand - Allows you to shoot someone during the night. The Cloak of Invisibility - Allows you to survive a hit during the night The Resurrection Stone - Allows you to protect another player during the night. The problem is, you do not know where the items are! You suspect they may be in possession of other people in the town. Being muggles, they may not be aware of the magical properties of the items. In order to find the items, you have the ability to choose one correspondent every day. During the following night, and that night only, you can freely exchange PMs. But you cannot talk once the night has passed. If your correspondent happens to possess one of the items you seek, he may decide to give it to you by sending a PM to the hosts of the game. You must convince them to do so, however!" bolded part is the lie. ON was town, not disguised as it. Also ON had a clause in his role requiring him to kill HP. It seems very well, odd to have 2 townies fighting over the same items to get a power role and then have 1 having to kill the other while the other just wants the items? Why would town be required to kill town. | ||
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On July 26 2011 02:09 syllogism wrote: Someone lied about Supersoft's role though Supersoft: Dropbear: Just means the host could have modified the role. Decon did it slightly to the joker role I made bum last ptp. It was literally a change from bum could choose his rival, to making me his rival when I got the batman role. | ||
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On July 26 2011 02:25 sandroba wrote: Okay here is explanation number 2. I refuse to believe that mafia does things at random so here's what I got, and this one doesn't relly on SS being mafia: -Jackal was leading the lynch, followed by kita. People were asking for a check on either him or kita. They knew YM was going to do it. For them to have enough reason to kill YM, despite the risk, Jackal is not scum, because it's safe to assume he was getting lynched anyway. However if any of these 2 players got checked, then kita was probably doomed, so they had to take a risk to save one of their players and hope things worked out. What about the issue of trackster using his ability. He knows there is someone out there that can instantly cap him. HE was red. He also knew saving either kita / jackal via shot (if either or both is red) only assures he can be revenge killed. It seems far more likely that they opted to shoot YM because he had a really strong role. He was heavily reading town based on the action, but still enough doubt that a day vig on him wouldn't be terrible. It honestly looks to me like a blue snipe with a hope no one would find it too out of place. | ||
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On July 26 2011 02:50 Kurumi wrote: Check BC because we are fucked if he is mafia. Check me and laugh. Whoever dt checks will laugh almost as hard as i cringed at my role. | ||
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On July 26 2011 02:38 sandroba wrote: K, BC, so you what's your opinion on kita? honestly? I have no clue. Based on my own role I already know players have posting restrictions. He could be forced to ask questions for all I know. This game day has been a clusterfuck of claims, lying, and the like. Until shit settles down into something that can be analyzed i'm not ruling out posting restrictions. | ||
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On July 26 2011 03:56 redFF wrote: What was your penalty? Good job Supersoft, I didn't get a pm telling me tackster's alignment, was that a mistake? I'm still weary of Jackal. Behaviourally i'm not noticing anything that scummy though. I'm tired of Kurumi getting away from doing jack-shit every game and doing no analysis and just trolling so i'm voting him until something better comes up. kita-iirc he played this way early on in the first ptp and was town and a lot of people(mainly mafia) jumped on him for it to get an easy lynch, I suggest someone starts quoting supersoft though. i will do it if necesssary. I suggest no one quotes supersoft and no one votes for kurumi. Based on how Kurumi is playing, his power seems to require votes instead of fistbumps like palmar from last ptp. Supersoft's power we are told operates via quote levels. how about we don't give two people access to their powers? How about we kill jackal or, each player with an item asks if they can destroy it (as well harry breaks the wand, gets rid of the stone and only keeps the cloak in the books). Letting people run loose with powers when we have no actual confirmed alignment of them is just a bad move. Limit people from acting until they are verified. | ||
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On July 26 2011 04:04 syllogism wrote: Supersoft just killed mafia and another person confirmed his role. Unless you think this is some absurd gambit by mafia and they are all 3 (supersoft,dropbear,tackster) red, how can you possibly argue against supersoft using his alignment checks? Is this some posting restriction because that makes little sense Super soft is likely not red as he killed a red, you are correct. That does not exclude him from being third party however. Also note, drop bear claimed the role of what tim roth was before super soft came forward. IT forced him forward as he was forced out in the open. Based on how the role was used we can extrapolate that dropbear and supersoft are most likely not of the same alignment (unless town, but then dropbears ability must have been total shit to warrant activating his penalty). As supersoft was forced to use his role he might be red, but more than likely he is third party or town. We gained no information on drop bear other than he was willing to risk a penalty for outing SS. This doesn't give any information upon his role. Until such a time as any of them have confirmed their innocence I would prefer to keep as many people as possible from using their abilities. Do we seriously need another day vig or the like going rampant without input from anyone? | ||
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Uh yes it does. You do not reward people for roleclaiming when it gives literally no honest data about their alignment. Role isn't alignment. If someone is dumb enough to roleclaim punish them for it unless they have a good history in game to warrant the roleclaim. LIke a day 3-4 dt bringing a list of reds, or a hatter with his bomb placements then gettin glynched, etc... You dont on day 1 let people use powers when their alignment is still obfuscated. That is bad play. In a game where apparently people can use a ton of DAY POWERS, and especially on day 1 you want to limit what people can use. Everyone who fistpounded you day 1 and 2 in the last ptp was an absolute retard as they did it without considering you being red. Let them prove their innocence and then let them use their powers. | ||
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On July 26 2011 04:24 syllogism wrote: Hello, he just killed mafia and another person confirmed his role. Even if your strange theory that they likely aren't of the same alignment, there's almost no chance at all that the role description isn't correct ...... Are you dense? I as red have killed my own members before. It builds credibility. So yes we know he killed a mafia, after someone said "i made his role and its this" not before. The person who did this made the claim to put FoS on SS. So if they were both red, DB wouldn't have said a thing. If SS is red and called out, he has to respond or get lynched. Using information caused from a forced from a situation where you live or die does not confirm the player. It may confirm the role, but not the player. Role does not equal alignment. Had SS killed trackster before being called out I would more likely buy he is town, had DB not thought he instantly had to out SS there are enough variables that you want to not risk activating powers of players you cannot confirm at this point. | ||
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On July 26 2011 04:45 syllogism wrote: So you are admitting the role is likely confirmed. What exactly will mafia/third party supersoft do with his alignment checking role that town is forcing him to use? At worst we will be mislead, but we are always free to ignore his checks. At best he gives us red today. There's no risk at all unless it's a gambit and they are ALL red. which is also why I stated I found him more likely to be sk or town. However until I know for sure I would say dont let him use it. If he is sk, he will appear as town, then screw us later. If he is town he should have no issue waiting until he is confirmed. Anyone believe they can force someone to use their power in some way the owner doesn't want to is naive. | ||
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On July 26 2011 04:50 heist wrote: Agree. If flip turns out red, then we lynch. If green, we take it as a grain of salt and potentially have a confirmed townie if supersoft is ever killed and flipped green. Also, either we kill jackal or we don't, but if we aren't, then I really think we should give him the stone and tell him to protect supersoft. So let me get this straight, He finds a red, we lynch and go yay yay. If finds a green, announces it to thread, and then mafia kill confirmed town? How about we confirm SS, he then uses his power and only say, speaks up. It also requires, every single person in a day to do this with him, bulks up a thread to make it hard to read, and then him to accurately pick someone to check. Also you want to give another unconfirmed player a power? What is your deal this game. You have no way to make jackal prot SS. SS gets shot and flips town, jackal says "i proted him, he must have been double stacked" Jesus, do you people think at all? Role does not equal alignment. People who use kp related roles as town should be penalized. People who have roles that require manipulating a town to get power (see jackals role before he claimed), or people who seemingly require votes to use a power and are acting like trollbate to get it. You do not help these people, you make them useless. If they are sk or mafia they get gimped. If they are town they should understand and start analyzing players. This is not "lets use everyones powers and figure out who has what and then figure out who is red/sk" This is lets figure out whos mafia/sk. Trying to confirm someone based on potential use of a role that was claimed by them (could still be slightly different, hell the alignment could be different). | ||
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