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On July 03 2011 16:38 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Fuck it, just kill fishball.
##Vote: Fishball
lol, you're just mad I caught you red handed in the other game.
I just got home, 2am, and somewhat drunk ;/
I have no idea wtf is going on with so many accusations. Actually I don't even remember why I subbed in. Oh yeah, I died in that game and had nothing better to do.
Right now I think we have 2 votes for Mister, 1 for sinani, 1 for RoL, and 1 for myself.
I'll go ahead and put my vote on RoL.
Reason? Fuck it, just kill Rol.
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I felt something was missing
##Vote: RebirthOfLeGenD
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Well, good morning, or afternoon rather.
So if RoL is the vigilante, there is a lying blue among sinani206, Sandroba, supersoft and nard.
I'll give RoL benefit of doubt, and take my vote off him for now. That leaves myself, Pyo and Misder claiming green. Unless there is a green who claimed blue (which is stupid if there is any), one out of the three greens are lying; Much better odds than hunting the lying blue.
I am putting my vote on Misder, as he was brought up by others earlier, and I don't like the fact that he plain switched his vote onto me right after RoL claimed.
Any blues that are still voting for RoL or Sandroba should focus their votes on the greens.VisceraEyes was killed off in RTM, mod killed in Closed Casket since he felt he was being bullied by vets, so he wanted to leave this game since he wasn't in the mood to play anymore. I know I'm green and I'm here trying to convince you.
Pyo has been rather helpful and active thus far, and I'm obviously not going to vote for myself, so I'm putting my vote on Misder.
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##Vote: Misder
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On July 04 2011 02:17 Pyo wrote:
I still think that Misder is the mafia, but mafia last second vote changing to sandroba could really mess with things, so I'm going to change my vote to Fishball to ensure that a townie is lynched tonight.
Basically, RoL just claimed vigi, so if he's lying the real vigi will kill him tonight. If he's telling the truth, either Fishball is mafia and we can now focus on DTs or Fishball is town leaving RoL to decide between me or Misder to kill tonight. Even if he for whatever reason decides kills me, town will know who to lynch the following day.
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##Vote: Fishball
If you think Misder is Mafia, it doesn't make sense to vote for me. Just to prevent Mafia from a last second vote change? There are only 2 Mafia. One of them is very likely among the green and can't easily change his vote; That's like screaming "lynch me please". If the other Mafia wanted to do a last second move, he is basically giving himself out. Like mentioned, everyone should have their votes among the greens now.
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On July 04 2011 05:02 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 04:51 Fishball wrote:
Well, good morning, or afternoon rather.
So if RoL is the vigilante, there is a lying blue among sinani206, Sandroba, supersoft and nard.
I'll give RoL benefit of doubt, and take my vote off him for now. That leaves myself, Pyo and Misder claiming green. Unless there is a green who claimed blue (which is stupid if there is any), one out of the three greens are lying; Much better odds than hunting the lying blue.
I am putting my vote on Misder, as he was brought up by others earlier, and I don't like the fact that he plain switched his vote onto me right after RoL claimed.
Any blues that are still voting for RoL or Sandroba should focus their votes on the greens.VisceraEyes was killed off in RTM, mod killed in Closed Casket since he felt he was being bullied by vets, so he wanted to leave this game since he wasn't in the mood to play anymore. I know I'm green and I'm here trying to convince you.
Pyo has been rather helpful and active thus far, and I'm obviously not going to vote for myself, so I'm putting my vote on Misder.
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##Vote: Misder I have the same thoughts as you on pyo, but I view the only logical way to go about this is killing Misder last, since he is a most likely townie or we win the game by knowing him and sinani are scum. So unfortunately that means lynch or kill you, then lynch or kill Pyo. Pyo looked down, so I opted to try to lynch Viscera and hope for the best case scenario. If you aren't scum then i will vigi Pyo tonight leaving Misder as the only other possible scum, and since he is not a likely "Cover" candidate, or even a check candidate I would assume that Sinani must be lying.
That's a rather long route that you choose, and you are assuming that Mafia will let you live. If you are likely to hit one of their own, I'm sure they would rather kill you and waste another lynch to buy another cycle.
To me, I would lynch Misder. If he is red, me and Pyo are 99% cleared. If Misder flips green, and if you are still alive, I wouldn't have a problem if you have to hit me, of if Town lynches me then.
Regardless, I honestly don't see how Mafia can win this game. After we sort out the lone Mafia among the greens, it's a matter of time before the DT's can figure out the math game and lynch the blue poser.
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and here I sit wondering why I had agreed to wipe up VisceraEyes's butt before reading the thread. What a waste of energy.
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On July 04 2011 17:01 Ace wrote:
that should read *not abusing what was given to them.
@Rol: Fishball can't claim Vigilante. None of the mafia can as thats also an auto loss like you said. The only play the Mafia has is: 1 claim Town, 1 claim Detective. Then the Detective faking Mafia has to keep giving "Guilty" results and I'll explain why about that in a second also. The Framer isn't even worth worrying about as within 2 Nights the Detectives and Vigilante can make him irrelevant.
This is what iGrok said to me after I died when I was screwing with him in PM-land until he got mad. Here is the main part.
Optimal mafia play in your place, and if you wanted to keep your streak, was to counter-claim vigi and force the real one to use his shot on you tonight, while they lynch one of the DT. Thats the gamble, that they wouldn't have picked the right DT out of 4 to lynch, and you'd still have 2 votes to use on the lynch as well. If you then shot a Townie, that would leave 1 confirmed townie with no powers, 2 DTs (zero, one, or two of which are paranoid), a confirmed vigi without a shot, and a framer remaining alive. Since town has massclaimed, mafia knows which ones are paranoid and which aren't, but you can force a night of no-action by making the DTs check the confirmed peeps to ascertain their sanity, and if there are sane cops left frame so they think they are paranoid. This gives you another kill to use on one of the confirmed townies. Once again, its a gamble, and this time a little less in scum's favor, and after that night its a 3p game, 2 DT Framer or DT Framer Confirmed T.
So yeah, its challenging as hell. But its still possible, even reasonable so, and you volunteered to sub in man.
To which I replied, "lol".
When I finally had a grasp of the situation yesterday afternoon, I told Sandroba to concede. That's pretty much all I can say.
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