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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=212874 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=216543 GMarshal: -Policy lynch Chezinu Day 1. Each game is different, so he certainly deserves a chance. So far he seems to playing fine so I don't agree with it. If neccessary (if we have one) he can be vigged. -Lynch both DT and DT's guilty. I feel that, while this is a good idea in a lot of circumstances, there are occasions where mafia could abuse this policy, especially given that its a closed setup and we don't know what roles are around. Definitely should be some discussion before enacting this automatically here. -Claims: I feel there are occasions where claiming is the right choice, but should be met with extreme scepticism. As there is no way to verify any claims, don't do it unless you have a damn good reason (medic protect/vig shot) Radfield: -Inactive Day 1 lynch. I agree with, unless something happens during Night 0. If you have a look at ROL's Experimental 1, you'll see that inactives lost us the game. Going into the last day we had people with a handful of posts each, totally unable to be analysed. One thing that should absolutely not be tolerated in a no-flip game is lurkers. -Claims: Same as above, we can see what will happen after night 0. | ||
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The only problem is when mafia kill a DT we won't know so we can't look back at their posts to see if they breadcrumbed anything. | ||
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On June 26 2011 03:24 Radfield wrote: I think it is a better use of the coroner role to lynch the potential red first, and then the dt a day later. That way if it turns out the dt was telling the truth, we get to keep our dt alive. Only problem with that is we don't even know if we have a coroner, or how it works if we do. | ||
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On June 26 2011 05:41 Fishball wrote: Why are we discussing Day 1 lynch so much for now? It's a Night 0 start, and a lot can develop over to Day 1. So why not suggest something else to talk about isntead of popping into the thread to shoot down the current discussion and just disappear? | ||
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On June 26 2011 07:45 GGQ wrote: -1 point for questioning the value of discussion without bringing up another topic -1 point for insulting other posters -1 point for outright refusing to contribute. 'I'm not here to give answers' ... ??? Yeah you kind of are, unless you don't want town to win. Bored townie or mafia. Either way a good day 1 lynch candidate. | ||
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Fishball and Caller have been totally useless, and I'm waiting to see if LSB has anything to say. These are the people that should be up for lynching today. In a no reveal setup, anyone thats just fucking around without giving of any reads needs to die. Chezinu is playing properly despite all expectations. Mafia that wants to win? | ||
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On June 27 2011 19:33 Kurumi wrote: GGQ was killed because he is lucky when it comes to being mafia,gg vigilante. Wait, are you claiming you shot GGQ? | ||
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On June 27 2011 21:43 deconduo wrote: Unless I see them step up their posting significantly, I would suggest Fishball/Caller for today. No use keeping them around to crap up the thread. On June 27 2011 23:23 Fishball wrote: Such a hypocrite, and daft to boot. Although after what you displayed in PYP3, I expected nothing less from you. Or do you have a different agenda? Oh well, time will tell. -Super defensive -Resorting to (bad) personal attacks -Still hasn't contributed. Has Fishball stepped up his posting? Nope. ##Vote Fishball | ||
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On June 28 2011 02:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I can see your issue on caller, fishball has actually been fairly solid -_- he says alot with very little whereas people like radfield say almost nothing with a lot. FoS for looking at the wrong people. Show me one 'solid' contribution from Fishball please Find me a post of yours that shows real contribution or you are as guilty as he is. Personal attack? He compared your play this game to a game you were red, IE he FoS'd you. You missed the point and attacked him without answering it. FoS again. No it was a personal attack. He has said repeatedly elsewhere that I made the wrong play in PYP3 (which I disagree with) and this is what he was referencing. Nothing to do with being mafia, YOU read it wrong. As for contributing posts, I've done my best considering its only Day 1 so how about these two: + Show Spoiler + On June 25 2011 20:36 deconduo wrote: First off, I highly encourage people to have a look through RoL's experimental mafia games. These were mini no-flip games where everyone was anonymous: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=212874 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=216543 GMarshal: -Policy lynch Chezinu Day 1. Each game is different, so he certainly deserves a chance. So far he seems to playing fine so I don't agree with it. If neccessary (if we have one) he can be vigged. -Lynch both DT and DT's guilty. I feel that, while this is a good idea in a lot of circumstances, there are occasions where mafia could abuse this policy, especially given that its a closed setup and we don't know what roles are around. Definitely should be some discussion before enacting this automatically here. -Claims: I feel there are occasions where claiming is the right choice, but should be met with extreme scepticism. As there is no way to verify any claims, don't do it unless you have a damn good reason (medic protect/vig shot) Radfield: -Inactive Day 1 lynch. I agree with, unless something happens during Night 0. If you have a look at ROL's Experimental 1, you'll see that inactives lost us the game. Going into the last day we had people with a handful of posts each, totally unable to be analysed. One thing that should absolutely not be tolerated in a no-flip game is lurkers. -Claims: Same as above, we can see what will happen after night 0. On June 27 2011 18:26 deconduo wrote: First of all, if a townie shot last night they should claim imo. Otherwise I'm going to assume theres 2 anti-town KP. I don't see why a townie would shoot either of the most active players, especially as neither of them has done anything suspicious. Fishball and Caller have been totally useless, and I'm waiting to see if LSB has anything to say. These are the people that should be up for lynching today. In a no reveal setup, anyone thats just fucking around without giving of any reads needs to die. Chezinu is playing properly despite all expectations. Mafia that wants to win? | ||
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On June 28 2011 02:35 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Decon, seriously? All his posts are direct and to the point. Have you ever played a game with him before? This is how he plays. His posts are his contributions, each one are very pro town. As for you "contribution" it is a rehash of shit already in thread and "i agrees" to shit. Its not solid contributing. Hell i was inactive during the night but damn, is this shit really going unnoticed by everyone? Yes I have and he was terrible in both games. He got lynched in both games and thoroughly deserved it. + Show Spoiler + On June 25 2011 13:18 Fishball wrote: Why am I Town again. I loathe Town. Useless On June 25 2011 13:27 Fishball wrote: Mafia list: 1. GCQ 2. GMarshal 3. ??? 4. ??? Awesome, both dead. Only 2 mafia left now. Useless On June 25 2011 13:32 Fishball wrote: Can't we just start the blood shed now. This is boring. Useless On June 26 2011 05:41 Fishball wrote: Why are we discussing Day 1 lynch so much for now? It's a Night 0 start, and a lot can develop over to Day 1. Complains and doesn't help at all. In other words useless, On June 26 2011 06:53 Fishball wrote: First, I only asked a question regarding the logic behind this Day 1 lynch discussion on a Night 0 start. This is far from "shooting down the current discussion". For all I care, you guys can just ignore what I said and continue. Hell we only have 6 hours or so left. Second, if you're too dumb to figure out a better topic, that's your problem. Like I said, I asked a question; I'm not here to give answers. More complaining and doing nothing. On June 26 2011 08:39 Fishball wrote: - Who says I have to bring up another topic? - When did I insult other players? I said "If you're" - Bad reading comprehension is bad. - Refusing to contribute? You obviously don't see what I see. I'm keeping a close eye on all those who have proposed their grand lynching plan. Defends himself but still doesn't give anything useful. On June 26 2011 09:20 Fishball wrote: How can you forget? You had half a hand in it. In DrH's experimental game, I purposely got myself lynched as a social experiment and player profiling. Then I was also lynched in PYP3 where I was the Traitor, which was to be expected after lynching you confirmed a Traitor existed in the game and it was only a matter of time people worked up the list. My main purpose at that time was to waste as many lynches as possible. In short, I was never lynched as a real Mafia candidate ever since the start of TL Mafia in Feb 2008. Spam On June 26 2011 10:02 Fishball wrote: You can still push to lynch me. It does not matter to me, but other players might question your motives, whatever that motive is. Anyways, who are you killing tonight? Spam On June 27 2011 07:18 Fishball wrote: Ding Ding Ding. Finally someone notices their own mistake, whether legit or not. This is why I said - It's mind boggling to me that some players would not notice this, or they're doing it on purpose. I wonder why. Awesomely helpful On June 27 2011 23:23 Fishball wrote: Such a hypocrite, and daft to boot. Although after what you displayed in PYP3, I expected nothing less from you. Or do you have a different agenda? Oh well, time will tell. It is not likely this game will have that sort of setup. That would be way overboard. I'm more intrigued that you would even think that way. More useless stuff. Direct and to the point. If the point is to be utterly useless. | ||
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On June 28 2011 02:47 Kurumi wrote: Post by post analysis? Jeez,that's so two thousand and late. Not so much an analysis as showing that he hasn't done ANYTHING so far this game, despite what BC is claiming. | ||
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On June 28 2011 03:19 Fishball wrote: Herp derp, someone likes to live in his own fantasy world. I can quote all the post game analysis done on you by OTHERS after this game, as well as our little PM conversation that I treasure like a maiden's virginity. You can continue to be delusional as you will, but I'm sure other players can figure out things on their own. I rest my case  | ||
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On June 28 2011 04:02 Jackal58 wrote: Wow Ace sure did collect some of the most aggressive players here for this game. Giant elephant peni sparring with giant polish sausages. Should be a fun ride. Just looking at meta on decon from the several games I've played with him I get the feeling he is town. He's not bashful straight out of the gate as a townie. He tends to be more subdued when he plays scum until late game. Good to know for my next game as mafia  | ||
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Fishball, if you don't step up your posting I'm vigging you tonight. Unless I can get you lynched first. | ||
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On June 28 2011 06:39 Fishball wrote: You can do whatever you like. I post whatever I want, when I want. Your threats only makes yourself look dumb. When I flip Town at the end of game, you can then blurt out "Fishball, you played so bad. You're so useless so I vigi'd you. Sucks that you are green but you dug your own grave." Nevermind, I just said it for you. Anything else? I'm like 75% sure you're green. You are just useless. Think of it as cutting off dead skin. | ||
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On June 28 2011 07:26 Fishball wrote: Scum tell right there, again. "I think you're green, but I also think you're useless, so you must die." With a no-flip setup, what an opportunity to take out a player! If we don't have a solid lynch candidate, you just made yourself one. 'Oh no, I'm going to get killed if I don't starting playing properly. Oh wait, lets just try and get the guy killed instead. That way he can't kill me' | ||
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