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This is the 2nd part of this 2-part series. The first part can be found here:Part 1

Source:http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=40069

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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. MBC๊ฒŒ์ž„ ํ•ด์„ค ์œ„์› ์„œ๊ฒฝ์ข… ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ €๊ทธ ๋Œ€ ์ €๊ทธ์ „(์ดํ•˜ ์ €์ €์ „)์„ ๋” ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋ณด๋Š” ๋ฒ•์„ ์•Œ๋ ค ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ธ€์ด ์ƒ๊ฐ๋ณด๋‹ค ํฐ ํ˜ธ์‘์„ ์–ป์–ด ์ €๋„ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ข‹๋„ค์š”. ์ œ ๊ธ€์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ €์ €์ „์„ ๋ณด๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ์ด ๋‹ฌ๋ผ์กŒ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‹ˆ ๋ฟŒ๋“ฏํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ๋„ ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์–ผ๋งˆ ์ „ MSL 4๊ฐ•์—์„œ ํŽผ์ณ์ง„ ์‹ ๋™์›๊ณผ ์ด์ œ๋™์˜ ์ €์ €์ „์—์„œ๋„ ๋ผ๋ฐ” ํ™œ์šฉ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ์ง€ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์ด ๋‚˜์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠนํžˆ ์ด์ œ๋™์ด ๋ชฐ๋ž˜ ํ•ด์ฒ˜๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฑด์„คํ•ด ์ €๊ธ€๋ง ํ•œ๋ฐฉ ๊ต์ „์—์„œ ์Šน๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๋‘” 4์„ธํŠธ์—์„œ ๋ผ๋ฐ”๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•œ ์‹ฌ๋ฆฌ์ „์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ์ง€ ์—ฌ์‹คํžˆ ์ฆ๋ช…๋๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ์ด์ œ๋™์ด 1ํ•ด์ฒ˜๋ฆฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๋˜ ์‹ ๋™์›์€ ์ƒ๋Œ€๊ฐ€ 3๊ฐœ์˜ ๋ผ๋ฐ”์—์„œ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋˜๋Š” ์ €๊ธ€๋ง ์ˆซ์ž๋งŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ์€ ๋ชฐ๋ž˜ ๋ผ๋ฐ”๋ฅผ ๋ชจ์€ ์ด์ œ๋™์˜ ๊ธฐ์Šต ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์— ๋‹นํ•  ์ˆ˜๋ฐ–์— ์—†์—ˆ์ฃ . ๋ชฐ๋ž˜ ํ•ด์ฒ˜๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ๋ผ๋ฐ”๋ฅผ ๋Š˜๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ์‹ฌ๋ฆฌ์ „์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ด์ œ๋Š” ์•„์…จ์ฃ ?

์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ์ €์ €์ „์„ ๋ณด๋Š” ๋˜๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์žฌ๋ฏธ ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ ๋” ์•Œ๋ ค๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ž ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ญ์ „์ด ์ž˜ ๋‚˜์˜ค์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์ €์ €์ „์—์„œ ์—ญ์ „์„ ์ผ๊ถˆ๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ๋ณธ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌํ•œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ๋†“์ธ ์„ ์ˆ˜๋“ค์ด ์™œ ์ €๋Ÿฐ ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ด๋ฅผ ํŽผ์น˜๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ํ…Œ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.

โ—†๋นŒ๋“œ ์˜ค๋”๋ฅผ ๋’ค์ง‘๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ํŒจํ„ด
์ €์ €์ „์ด ์žฌ๋ฏธ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„ ๋นŒ๋“œ์˜ค๋”์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ ์ด๋ฏธ ์ •ํ•ด์ง€๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ง€์ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ €์ €์ „์€ ์˜ค๋žœ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ๋นŒ๋“œ ์˜ค๋”์— ์ง€๋ฐฐ๋๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด๊ณ ์š”. ์–ด๋–ค ๋นŒ๋“œ๋ฅผ ์„ ํƒํ•˜๋ƒ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ๊ฒฐ์ •๋˜๊ณ  ์„ ์ˆ˜๋“ค์˜ ์ปจํŠธ๋กค์ด๋‚˜ ์šด์˜์œผ๋กœ ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌํ•จ์„ ๊ทน๋ณตํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .

์ง€๊ธˆ๋„ ๋นŒ๋“œ ์˜ค๋”๋Š” ์ €์ €์ „์— ํฐ ๋น„์ค‘์„ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์˜ˆ์ „๊ณผ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋นŒ๋“œ์˜ค๋” ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐ ์ŠนํŒจ๊ฐ€ ์ขŒ์šฐ๋  ํ™•๋ฅ ์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์ค„์–ด๋“ค์—ˆ์ฃ . 2006๋…„๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ €๊ทธ์ „์€ ๋ˆˆ๋ถ€์‹œ๊ฒŒ ๋ฐœ์ „ํ–ˆ๊ณ  ํ˜„์žฌ ๊ฐ ๋นŒ๋“œ ์˜ค๋”์˜ ์žฅ๋‹จ์ ์„ ์ž˜ ์•Œ๊ณ ์žˆ๋Š” ์„ ์ˆ˜๋“ค์€ ๋ฐœ์ „๋œ ์ปจํŠธ๋กค๊ณผ ๋ฏธ๋ฌ˜ํ•œ ๋ผ๋ฐ” ํ™œ์šฉ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋งŽ์€ ๋ณ€์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ตœ๊ทผ ์ €๊ทธ์ „์ด ๋ฐœ์ „ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์€ '๋ญ‰์น˜๊ธฐ ์ปจํŠธ๋กค' ๋•๋ถ„์ธ๋ฐ์š”. ์•„๋ฌด๋ฆฌ ์ปจํŠธ๋กค์„ ์ž˜ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด๋„ ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์—ญ์ „ํ•˜๊ธฐ ํž˜๋“ค์—ˆ๋˜ ์˜ˆ์ „์— ๋น„ํ•ด ์ตœ๊ทผ์—๋Š” ๋“œ๋ก  ๋ญ‰์น˜๊ธฐ์™€ ๋ฎคํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์Šคํฌ ๋ญ‰์น˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌ๋˜๋ฉด์„œ ์ปจํŠธ๋กค๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ ์—ญ์ „์Šน์„ ์ผ๊ถˆ๋‚ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

'์‹ ์ €์ €์ „'์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๊ธฐ์— ์ „ํ˜€ ๋ถ€์กฑํ•จ์ด ์—†๋Š” ์ตœ๊ทผ ์–‘์ƒ์€ ํ˜„์กด ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์ €๊ทธ ์ด์ œ๋™์ด ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๋‚ธ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ด๋„ ๋ฌด๋ฐฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ปจํŠธ๋กค๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๋Œ€๋ฅผ ์••๋„ํ•ด ์—ญ์ „์Šน์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๋‚ด๋˜ ์ด์ œ๋™์˜ ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐ ๋•๋ถ„์— ์ €์ €์ „์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ปจํŠธ๋กค์˜ ์ค‘์š”์„ฑ์ด ๋ถ€๊ฐ๋˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์ฃ . ์ €์ €์ „ ์—ญ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์ด์ œ๋™ ์„ ์ˆ˜์˜ ์ด์ „๊ณผ ์ดํ›„๋กœ ์—ญ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ตฌ๋ถ„๋  ๋งŒํผ ์ด์ œ๋™์ด ๋ฏธ์นœ ์˜ํ–ฅ์€ ์ง€๋ฐฐ์ ์ด๋ผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

โ—†์ €์ €์ „์˜ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜ ํ•˜์ด๋ธŒ ์ฒด์ œ
์ €์ €์ „์€ ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€๋„ ๋ฐœ์ „ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ด์ „์—๋Š” ์ƒ์ƒํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์ง€์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐœ์ „์— ๋ฐœ์ „์„ ๊ฑฐ๋“ญํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ €์ €์ „์€ ์ด์ œ ํ…Œํ…Œ์ „๊ณผ ํ”„ํ”„์ „์—์„œ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ ์–ด๋–ค ์ข…์กฑ์ „์—์„œ๋„ ์ฐพ์•„๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ๊ทœ๋ชจ์™€ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์œ ๋‹› ์กฐํ•ฉ์„ ๋งž์ดํ•  ์ค€๋น„๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋กœ ํ•˜์ด๋ธŒ ์ €๊ทธ์ „์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

ํ•˜์ด๋ธŒ ์ €๊ทธ์ „ ์ฐฝ์‹œ์ž๋Š” ์‚ผ์„ฑ์ „์ž ์นธ์—์„œ ํŒ€ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ด๋ฅผ ๋‹ด๋‹นํ–ˆ๋˜ ์ €๊ทธ ์ด์žฌํ™ฉ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฐจ๋ช…ํ™˜ ์„ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ ์ง๊ณ„ ์ œ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ฒ ๋„ค์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด์™€๋Š” ์ „ํ˜€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณ„ํ†ต์—์„œ ๋…๋ฆฝ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐœ์ „ํ•œ ์›…์ง„ ์Šคํƒ€์ฆˆ ๊น€๋ช…์šด์ด ํ•˜์ด๋ธŒ ์šด์˜์˜ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณ„๋ณด๋ผ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ฃ .

์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋ฐฉ์†ก ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์œ ์ถ”ํ•ด ๋ณด๋ฉด ํ•˜์ด๋ธŒ ์ €์ €์ „์„ ๋Œ€ํ‘œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ€ธ, ๋””ํŒŒ์ผ๋Ÿฌ, ๋””๋ฐ”์šฐ๋Ÿฌ, ์šธํฌ๋ผ, ๋Ÿด์ปค, ๋ผ์ด๋”์Šค ์ปค๋„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ์ผ์ด ๋‚˜์—ดํ•˜๊ธฐ์กฐ์ฐจ ํž˜๋“  ํ™”๋ คํ•œ ๋งˆ๋ฒ•์ด ๋‚œ๋ฌดํ•  ํ•˜์ด๋ธŒ ์ €์ €์ „์€ ๊ทธ์•ผ๋ง๋กœ ์‹ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ๋ณ„์ฒœ์ง€์ฃ .

ํ•˜์ด๋ธŒ ์šด์˜์˜ ํ•ต์‹ฌ์€ ์•„์ง๊นŒ์ง€ ์•Œ๋ ค์ง€์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ด๋ธŒ ์šด์˜์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ์„ ์ˆ˜๋“ค์ด ๋น„๋ฐ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ผ์ฒด ํ•จ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋งŒํผ ํ•˜์ด๋ธŒ ์šด์˜์€ ์•„์ง๋„ ์•„๋Š” ์„ ์ˆ˜๋“ค๋งŒ ํ• ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋น„๋ฐ€์˜ ๋ฌด๊ณต๋น„๊ธ‰์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋‹จ์ง€ ๋”ฑ ํ•˜๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ•œ๊ฒฐ๊ฐ™์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ "๋ชจ๋ฅด๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ๋ฌด์กฐ๊ฑด ์ง„๋‹ค"์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ด๋ฒˆ ํ”ผ๋””ํŒ MSL ๊ฒฐ์Šน์ „์€ ์‚ผ์„ฑ์ „์ž ์ฐจ๋ช…ํ™˜๊ณผ ํ•˜์ดํŠธ ์‹ ๋™์›์ด ๋Œ€๊ฒฐ์„ ํŽผ์น˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ด๋ธŒ ์šด์˜์˜ ๋Œ€๊ฐ€์ธ ์ฐจ๋ช…ํ™˜๊ณผ ๋ ˆ์–ด ๋‹จ๊ณ„์—์„œ ์ตœ๊ฐ• ์ด์ œ๋™๊นŒ์ง€ ์™„ํŒŒํ•œ ์‹ ๋™์›์˜ ๋Œ€๊ฒฐ์€ ํ•˜์ด๋ธŒ์™€ ๋ ˆ์–ด์˜ ๋Œ€๊ฒฐ์ด ๋  ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ๋†’์ฃ . ๊ณผ์—ฐ ์‹ ๋™์›์ด ํ•˜์ด๋ธŒ ์ €์ €์ „์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋Œ€์ฒ˜ํ• ์ง€ ์ง€์ผœ๋ณด๋Š” ์ผ๋„ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šธ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์‹ ์ €๊ทธ์ „์„ ๋ณผ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ๋†’์€ ์ด๋ฒˆ ๊ฒฐ์Šน์ „ ๋†“์น˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

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February 16, 2011.

Hello, this is MBCGame Commentator Shark.

Iโ€™m very happy that the first article I wrote on how to have fun watching ZvZ got a lot more response than I thought. Iโ€™m satisfied to hear that the article changed how readers viewed ZvZ.
A little while ago, there was the MSL Ro4 between Hydra and Jaedong. In that series, it showed the importance of larvae management. Especially Set 4, in which Jaedong did a proxy hatchery then won the ling battle, displayed fully the larvae mind games that is so crucial to the matchup. Hydra thought that Jaedong only had one hatchery and only accounted for one hatcheryโ€™s worth of larvae, but Jaedong gathered larvae secretly through the proxy hatchery, so Hydra could not do anything against the ling break. Now do you see that the proxy hatchery is a ploy to secretly gather more larvae?

Today I reveal 2 more fun points in ZvZ. Once you know how to comeback from a disadvantage and win in ZvZ which doesnโ€™t have a lot of comeback wins, youโ€™ll be able to see why a player in a bad situation would choose to play a certain way.

3. The new pattern of overcoming a build order disadvantage.

Those who say ZvZ is boring say that the gameโ€™s already decided by the build order most of the time. Honestly, for a long time ZvZ HAS been decided by the build orders. Too much was already decided by the build order, and the players couldnโ€™t overcome it with unit control or management.

Even now in ZvZ, the build order carries a lot of weight. However, compared to before, the probability of a game being decided by a build order has decreased sharply. From 2006, the Zerg race has advanced dramatically, and the players who know the pros and cons of each build order create tons of variables in the matchup through time-tested unit control and subtle use of larvae.

The advance of the modern Zerg race can be attributed to โ€œstacked Mutalisk control.โ€ It was hard to comeback from a bad position before no matter how good your control was, but now, with the discovery of drone and Mutalisk stacking, there are times when a player won from behind with pure micro.

The person who brought forth what we can call today โ€œModern ZvZโ€ is todayโ€™s strongest Zerg, Jaedong. Thanks to Jaedong, who won many times from behind and overwhelmed his opponents with sheer micro, micro in ZvZ began to highlight its importance. The fact that you can split the history of ZvZ into โ€œBefore Jaedongโ€ and โ€œAfter Jaedongโ€ shows how dominating his influence is on the matchup.

4. Hive tech, the future of ZvZ

ZvZ is advancing even today, and has reached a plateau not thought possible. ZvZ, with progress after progress, is now preparing new unit compositions and patterns not seen in TvT, PvP, or any other matchup. This is Hive tech ZvZ.

The founder of the Hive-tech Zerg is JiHyun, long-time Samsung Khan 2v2 player. Great could be seen as his apprentice. Another progamer who developed Hive-tech independent of these two is Woongjin Starโ€™s Zero.

If we look at broadcasted Hive-tech games, the things that represent hive-tech ZvZ are queens, defilers, devourers, ultras, lurkers, and nydus canals. Hive-tech, which is rampant with too many splendid magic to list, is a totally new world.

The core to Hive-tech ZvZ has not yet been revealed. The reason is because those who use hive-tech are holding their tongues. Therefore, hive-tech right now is something that only those who know the secrets can use.

The only thing theyโ€™ll say is: โ€œthose who donโ€™t know will always lose.โ€

In PDPOP MSL Finals, great of Samsung Khan will go up against hydra of hite Entus. This matchup of great, the master of hive-tech, and hydra, who beat down the strongest Zerg Jaedong in Lair tech, will probably be the battle of Hive vs. Lair. It will also be fun to see how hydra will deal with hive-tech ZvZ.

Do not miss this MSL final because thereโ€™s a good chance you could see a new kind of ZvZ.
CJ Entusman #50! #1 ํดํ…œ fan TL!
ZEEEPh
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal97 Posts
February 16 2011 13:41 GMT
#2
good read once again!
this further increases one's way of seeing a matchup deemed lucky-based for a long time...
keep the good work!
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
February 16 2011 13:43 GMT
#3
Heh. Very well, I shall watch the MSL finals.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
February 16 2011 13:47 GMT
#4
Thanks for the translation! This new insight in ZvZ is very helpful.

And do not forget, MSL Finals is this Saturday! Hydra fighting!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6821 Posts
February 16 2011 13:47 GMT
#5
good job bro.really enjoy
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
February 16 2011 13:51 GMT
#6
let it be known

As allways zvz was allways decided by small stuff, makes it a ton of fun to theorycraft about what happend when sometihng goes wrong in the "build order loss" rethoric
In the woods, there lurks..
Chambo
Profile Joined May 2010
Brazil32 Posts
February 16 2011 14:07 GMT
#7
(Z)Shark is a great guy !! gl !!
soccercop
Profile Joined August 2006
Fiji305 Posts
February 16 2011 14:08 GMT
#8
This article is well written and translated. I read Part 1 few hours ago. Both articles are great. Thanks.
To defy your destiny makes you indestructible
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12076 Posts
February 16 2011 14:14 GMT
#9
They are well written, it still doesn't change the fact that it is hard to tell who is winning a battle until you see a lonesome mutalisk left. ^^
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
February 16 2011 14:30 GMT
#10
hYPED FOR MSL FINALS NOW :O
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Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
February 16 2011 15:16 GMT
#11
On February 16 2011 23:30 alffla wrote:
hYPED FOR MSL FINALS NOW :O


haha... I didn't really looked forward to the MSL finals, but know that I have read point 4 i'm so hyped. wow.

I knew there might be Hive play involved in the finals, but how shark explained the consequences it might have makes this final really interesting.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50716 Posts
February 16 2011 15:38 GMT
#12
hydra is someone who I think plays in a way that reacts to what the opponent does,so I feel that seeing a hive tech ZvZ won't be impossible.
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therockmanxx
Profile Joined July 2010
Peru1174 Posts
February 16 2011 15:49 GMT
#13
If he can beat in zvz with Hive tech in THE FINALS
Im pretty sure it would change the way zvz is play forever !!!
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Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
February 16 2011 16:09 GMT
#14
These articles are very timely. Good marketing by MBC. I guess they learnt they lessons from MSL Avalon.

Point 4 actually made me really hyped for the final and the first article changed a bit my way I look at ZvZ
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
February 16 2011 16:24 GMT
#15
thx for translating shark ftw!!
dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
February 16 2011 16:31 GMT
#16
tbh, I wish he wrote more. It's like he's about to break into a point in depth but then it just stops.
Moktira is da bomb
miragev2
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom104 Posts
February 16 2011 16:40 GMT
#17
wow.. shark knows how to hype things up.
whoop
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
February 16 2011 16:42 GMT
#18
Hmm, surprised that GGplay didn't get a mention. As I understand it, he was the one who started hive play in the Woongjin house, and that zero's work was an application and expansion.
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TheDefiler_Saves
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway97 Posts
February 16 2011 17:02 GMT
#19
Thank you for the translation!

If hive tech became standard in zvz it would be so much better.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 17:15:25
February 16 2011 17:13 GMT
#20
Great read, especially the last part about Hive tech.

Apparently there was some trash talking by Hydra at the MSL media conference. He said he's confident of winning 3-0. He's also practicing with the Woongjin zergs for the final.
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