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hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-24 12:26:59
December 23 2010 22:16 GMT
#1
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Banner by prototype, sub-banners by me
OSL Ro16 Day 6 12/24/10 19:30 KST OnGame Network


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Group A:
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(P)Paralyze < Icarus > (P)Kal
Group B:
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(Z)Jaedong < Aztec > (Z)HoGiL
Group C:
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(T)Sea < Gladiator > (T)Mind
Group D:
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(P)free < Pathfinder> (Z)Modesty


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+ Show Spoiler [Kal vs Paralyze] +
I want Paralyze to win, but I am going to try to be as objective as possible. Kal is good. Very good. Sure, he can’t seem to break into the next level and assert himself as a contender for “best in the world” but he is very consistent against opponents not named “Lee”. Just looking at his PvP, Kal is winning the games he is supposed to and only losing to the best. In his last 15 he is 10-5, with losses against PvP sniper Horang2, Protoss legends Stork and Bisu (twice), and once against the rookie brave, who has been very impressive lately. He cheeses well enough, and he has had a lot of success this season defending against all-ins. And we have Paralyze, with no PvPs to look at. Even if we look at his non official games, there is still far fewer games than vs zerg or terran. The qualifiers aren’t pretty for our fuzzy hero. He is 3-3, and against far easier competition then he will be playing today. The only experience he has had against other starleauge qualifiers is in a best of 3 against snow, which he lost 2-0. Another aspect to consider: in the beginning of round one, Park needed a specialist for central plains. The plains were known for a largely disproportionate number of PvPs, so Park needed to pick a player that was good vs toss. He picked Sun instead of Paralyze. Now Sun did have success, but it is certainly not a bode of confidence for Paralyze’s PvP. Kal is just too consistent and too good for me to see the upset here. Kal wins.
But here are two things that will help Paralyze’s quest to walk the royal road. The first is that between Park, Doctor. K, Bisu, and Best, Paralyze has the best resource of protoss knowledge ever, and most of those guys don’t have anything else to do right now. The second is that Kal is the smugtoss, and it was smugness that led flash to lose to two different SKT players already.

+ Show Spoiler [Jaedong vs Hogil] +
Ok, Significantly shorter this time. Jaedong is Jaedong. Sure, he dropped a game to Hiya, but team kills involve some weird head games that come from hundreds of games against each other, that spectators rarely understand. A good example of that is Zero vs Free from last season. Anyway, Jaedong is fresh off of an 11 game zvz win streak, that was interrupted by a wild game vs zero (Definitely worth a watch if you haven’t seen it.) Hogil probably gets my vote for “most improbable birth in both MSL and OSL.” Hogil is atrocious at ZvZ. It’s hard to figure out how someone can have a 29% win rate in a matchup that is almost a coin flip. This is the most lopsided matchup of the night. Jaedong wins.

+ Show Spoiler [Sea vs Mind] +
Oh sea. It may be the haircut, and it may be spending too much time with your prize from the selection ceremony, but something is just not the same since that night. He is 2-6 and look just outclassed in a lot of those games. It is important to note that none of those are against terran. That’s good in the sense that maybe the TvT spark is still there, but bad in the scenes that he is out of practice. I don’t like mind. Is it because of is completely dull play style? Is it because he is on a team I don’t like? Is it because his head looks like a balloon with glasses drawn on? I don’t know. I’m just glad I wasn’t a fan of brood war when he won an MSL, because I might have just quit starcraft then. Mind seems to teeter along the precipice of “mid-level player that can pick up some wins,” and “over the hill player who should be replaced by young talent soon.” This is probably the closest matchup of the night. I’m going to use the TvT records to pick a winner, and 3-1>1-2 . Sea wins the match I am least excited about.

+ Show Spoiler [Free vs Modesty] +
Free and Modesty are some of the many surprises this season. Modesty went from sub .500 and a 4 game loss streak to roll into a seven game win streak that spans over all matchups and ability levels. Free on the other hand is slumping hard. I never understood why free was good in the first place, but it is gone for now. To be honest, I haven’t seen enough modesty or free games to make a good prediction here. Things are made even more sticky by the fact that this game does not change the results of the group, and we don’t know if either of these players decided to skimp on the practicing. I just have too much of a problem giving modesty the nod. Free wins. change my mind after seeing that the game is on pathfinder. Free will spit between defences for muta harass and a hydra bust, but wont be able to deal with either. Modesty wins




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+ Show Spoiler +

(P)Paralyze < (P)Kal
(Z)Jaedong < (Z)HoGiL
(T)Sea < (T)Mind
(P)free > (Z)Modesty



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+ Show Spoiler [Paralyze vs kal] +
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No Just No. The whole point of the qualifiers is so that we don't have to see games like this. Short game.
Poll: Do you recomend kal vs paralyze?

no (32)
 
78%

meh (7)
 
17%

yes (2)
 
5%

41 total votes

Your vote: Do you recomend kal vs paralyze?

(Vote): yes
(Vote): no
(Vote): meh



+ Show Spoiler [Jaedong vs Hogil] +
+ Show Spoiler +
It was an ok game on its own, but I am going to recomend it for non-starcraft reasons. Hard to describe without spoiling. Oh and there is a lot of kiss cam action, if you like that sort of thing. Short game.
Poll: Do you recomend Jaedong vs hogil?

yes (31)
 
53%

no (22)
 
37%

meh (6)
 
10%

59 total votes

Your vote: Do you recomend Jaedong vs hogil?

(Vote): yes
(Vote): no
(Vote): meh


+ Show Spoiler [Sea vs Mind] +
+ Show Spoiler +
It was like every TvT Mind has ever played. Nothing special. Short for a TvT, but medium lenght overall
Poll: Do you recomend Sea vs Mind?

no (20)
 
80%

yes (3)
 
12%

meh (2)
 
8%

25 total votes

Your vote: Do you recomend Sea vs Mind?

(Vote): yes
(Vote): no
(Vote): meh



+ Show Spoiler [ Free vs Modesty] +
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Short game, one player outclassed, not worth it.
Poll: Do you recomend Free vs Modesty?

yes (11)
 
44%

no (10)
 
40%

meh (4)
 
16%

25 total votes

Your vote: Do you recomend Free vs Modesty?

(Vote): yes
(Vote): no
(Vote): meh



Poll: Game of the night?

Jaedong vs Hogil (18)
 
67%

Free vs Modesty (5)
 
19%

Paralyze vs Kal (2)
 
7%

Sea vs Mind (2)
 
7%

27 total votes

Your vote: Game of the night?

(Vote): Paralyze vs Kal
(Vote): Jaedong vs Hogil
(Vote): Sea vs Mind
(Vote): Free vs Modesty




Xsebit stream, thanks man! Although we do find you preferances of family over starcraft a little odd...
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Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-24 12:01:30
December 23 2010 22:16 GMT
#2
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Poll: What group will the OSL champion come from?

Group B (47)
 
46%

Group C (27)
 
26%

Group A (20)
 
19%

Group D (9)
 
9%

103 total votes

Your vote: What group will the OSL champion come from?

(Vote): Group A
(Vote): Group B
(Vote): Group C
(Vote): Group D


Poll: Only one map will be kept for next season: which should it be?

Aztec (27)
 
38%

Gladiator (20)
 
28%

Pathfinder (13)
 
18%

Icarus (11)
 
15%

71 total votes

Your vote: Only one map will be kept for next season: which should it be?

(Vote): Pathfinder
(Vote): Gladiator
(Vote): Aztec
(Vote): Icarus





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Not following the OSL that closely? New to Brood War? Confused By the OSL format? Intimidated by the overwhelming amount of information of the R&S thread? Well, here’s the striped down version of who advances based on today’s winners. 1st seeds and 2nd seeds determine who plays who in the next round: all 1st seeds will play 2nd seeds from different groups, but the exact arrangement has not been determined yet (If someone knows who is playing who let me know.) Tie breakers will be at 21:00 KST the 26th according to someone who posted here. I have no reason to disbelive him.
Group A
(P)Kal wins: (Z)Hyuk advances in the 1st seed (P)Kal advances in the 2nd seed
(P)Paralyze wins: (Z)Hyuk advances in the 1st seed, and tie breaker between (P)Kal, (P)Paralyze, and (T)Flash for the 2nd seed.
Group B
(Z)Jaedong wins: Tie breaker between (T)HiyA, (Z)Jaedong, and (Z)Calm, top two advance.
(Z)HoGiL wins: (Z)Calm advances in the 1st seed and (T)HiyA advances in the second seed.
Group C
(T)Mind wins: Tie breaker between (Z)Shine, (P)Stork, and (T)Mind, top two advance.
(T)Sea wins: (Z)Shine advances in the 1st seed and (P)Stork advances in the 2nd seed.
Group D
(Z)Modesty advances in the 1st seed and (T)Fantasy advances in the 2nd seed, regardless of the results of this game.

If you have any cool ideas for hype, let me know


Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
December 23 2010 22:20 GMT
#3
exciting set of matches..

afrotoss fighting!
jaedong imba
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6794 Posts
December 23 2010 22:21 GMT
#4
jaedong vs hogil
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-23 22:24:02
December 23 2010 22:23 GMT
#5
hit quote instead of edit so.......

GO Paralyze!
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
December 23 2010 22:26 GMT
#6
You wrote calm instead of Jaedong in the OP.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9777 Posts
December 23 2010 22:27 GMT
#7
anyone from group A could win this OSL :D

PARALYZE WILL EMERGE VICTORIOUS FROM THIS TIEBREAKER
boomer hands
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
December 23 2010 22:33 GMT
#8
I have a really bad feeling for JD. I really hope it's just from the eggnog.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
December 23 2010 22:33 GMT
#9
On December 24 2010 07:26 Essbee wrote:
You wrote calm instead of Jaedong in the OP.

Thank you, I though it was odd that that one was already TLPDed when I was going through it, forgot to change it from the original.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
December 23 2010 22:43 GMT
#10
It's gonna be an awkward night for KT fans.
:)
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
December 23 2010 22:46 GMT
#11
Will tiebreakers be held today?
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
December 23 2010 22:50 GMT
#12
Recommendations.

Please please please win Kal/Hogil/Sea/free for a superb early Christmas present.
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
December 23 2010 22:53 GMT
#13
On December 24 2010 07:46 iamho wrote:
Will tiebreakers be held today?


I'm wondering this as well, it would mean hiya and calm have to be in attendence right?
Jaedong :D
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-23 22:57:53
December 23 2010 22:53 GMT
#14
Epic tiebreakers incoming - Props on the great OP, Hacklebeast! Maybe you could un-spoiler the "Ramifications" section to make it easier to spot for new players that are scrolling by
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
December 23 2010 22:55 GMT
#15
On December 24 2010 07:33 Warrior Madness wrote:
I have a really bad feeling for JD. I really hope it's just from the eggnog.


you are not the only one
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
rwong48
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States105 Posts
December 23 2010 23:01 GMT
#16
On December 24 2010 07:33 hacklebeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2010 07:26 Essbee wrote:
You wrote calm instead of Jaedong in the OP.

Thank you, I though it was odd that that one was already TLPDed when I was going through it, forgot to change it from the original.

still says calm
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
December 23 2010 23:01 GMT
#17
Still can't get over the fact that Hyuk and Modesty are the first to get out of group play.
blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
December 23 2010 23:03 GMT
#18
On December 24 2010 07:55 SmoKim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2010 07:33 Warrior Madness wrote:
I have a really bad feeling for JD. I really hope it's just from the eggnog.


you are not the only one


I think it's because his name is displayed as calm. Though, in all seriousness, I'm sure that Jaedong will take this; his ZvZ has been looking pretty solid as of late, so I think he should be just fine.
I like haikus and / I can not lie. You other / brothers can't deny
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
December 23 2010 23:04 GMT
#19
On December 24 2010 07:53 Emon_ wrote:
Epic tiebreakers incoming - Props on the great OP, Hacklebeast! Maybe you could un-spoiler the "Ramifications" section to make it easier to spot for new players that are scrolling by

Thanks! I spoiled it to reduce clutter, but I don't see a big difference either way. I'll change it.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Nesto
Profile Joined November 2009
Switzerland1318 Posts
December 23 2010 23:06 GMT
#20
On December 24 2010 07:55 SmoKim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2010 07:33 Warrior Madness wrote:
I have a really bad feeling for JD. I really hope it's just from the eggnog.


you are not the only one


go and check out Hogils ZvZ stats and you will feel better ^^
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