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![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/CB59L.jpg) Mad that we haven't won a game for such a long time? Reason Number one two three four five: I win games for the town. There have been 5 recent town victories and I had a hand in all of them + Show Spoiler + Slightly Embellished Don't lose yo village: I put together the pieces and guarented victory And Then There Were None(RAM) I kill everyone else. And as town I win with Radfield TL Mafia XXX I come up with a giant plan that the town use and the mafia panics and kills me day one. Pick Your Power Mafia 2!: I picked traitor. As traitor I get our most important mafia member killed, and also the SK killed. Enough deaths meant the mafia lost Team Melee Mini Mafia II: As scum I am imediatly identified. Our team has one of the members claim doctor... and get killed. Our team then does a noobie mistake and looses. Simply put. I lose as Mafia. And as town I help the town win. Vote me for mayor if you want to win! | ||
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On December 11 2010 11:28 ilovejonn wrote: i am a total noob to this game and have no clue whats going on... =[ Vote LSB! I'll help you win! | ||
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What will I do as mayor I will hold a secrete ballot for the first elections. And I will post who voted for who afterwards. You know, mafia loves to redirect the first election? This will make it harder for them to. This is important for many reasons. Say we're going to lynch inactives. One is mafia, one is town Mafia: "Yo! Lets bandwagon this guy!" Town: "We'll their both inactive so I guess I'll vote for the town" Annul: "You guys lynched a townie. Sheep =P" Now. Imagine my system LSB: "Person A and Person B are inactive, please send me pm for who you vote for" Town sends PMs. Each person has about a 50% chance of dieng. Mafia doesn't have that much influence. Annul: "This person is mafia! Woot Woot!" In addition, I will not be able to influence the vote because I will post who voted for who afterwards. So if you see something messed up, you can call me out of it. (Of course, this also means that we got a great way to catch mafia). | ||
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Your just mad that I killed you. BTW. Another one of my accomplishments! I lynched the SK!!!!! | ||
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On December 11 2010 11:47 annul wrote: NEW RULE YOU CANNOT CLAIM YOUR NAME. IF YOUR NAME IS REVEALED BY SOME ABILITY, YOU MAY FIGHT IT (OR ACCEPT IT), BUT THAT IS THE ONLY EXCEPTION. it was revealed to me that the strategy of "omfg mass name claim" would break the game. so that isnt allowed. Annnd that's the noise of my plan being ruined. | ||
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On December 11 2010 11:51 CubEdIn wrote: Let me tell you the loophole in your plan there, buddy. Say you're mafia. People choose two people to lynch, townie and mafia. You rig the "anonymous" votes and lynch the townie, even though most people voted for the mafia. You can never be checked/blamed for that since people agreed to secret votes. So yeah, that's not gonna be in the best interest of town IMO. In addition, I will not be able to influence the vote because I will post who voted for who afterwards. So if you see something messed up, you can call me out of it. (Of course, this also means that we got a great way to catch mafia). People will be like, "YOU ARE WRONG!" if I try to manipulate votes. | ||
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On December 11 2010 12:04 CubEdIn wrote: Oh right, I didn't read that part, but it still gives you a certain degree of manipulation by hiding some mafia votes, if you are mafia. Like say the townie is winning by 7 votes, you switch 3 of the mafia votes to hide them, the difference is less significant, town is more confused. Just saying tho, I don't really care since it's just one night. Firstly, vote manipulation is always done by the mafia. In public it can be done easily. All the mafia has to do is make sure they either vote for other people or push a townie bandwagon. In private, they won't be able to predict who is going to be lynched. Secondly, if I'm mafia, you can examine the votes a wee bit more carefully. This way you'll have a better indication of who is mafia. See? Even if I'm mafia it's better for you! Thirdly, I'll accept someone to be the 'auditor' who also recieves votes | ||
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On December 11 2010 12:17 Beneather wrote: What is this auditor position and what is it worth to us? Whatever it is it should be voted from the town, if the MoM does choose it could be a fellow Mafia and both would have the biggest influence on the town. How about 2nd place in the mayor elections become with auditor? Here's how I imagine it would work. I would compare the votes that I get with the Auditor. If there is any discrepancies we can release it to the public/point out why. It further ensures the integrity of the private voting elections. Why private vote? Public vote is easily manipulated by the mafia. You will still be getting the same information, just our Day 1 vote will have a higher chance of hitting a mafia. + Show Spoiler + If the town really really wants it, I can host alternative forms of votes. Normal Voting Reasoned Voting- You must give a good reason for your vote for it to be counted. Runoff Elections- This way we get more information about people's voting patterns | ||
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The voting 'flaws' that I'm trying to work out is 1) Ability for mafia to quickly form a bandwagon and lynch someone 2) Ability for mafia to hide their votes on random other people | ||
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On December 11 2010 13:50 tube wrote: in retrospect, smurfs are probably: airbag (talks alot, and makes good arguments while he tries to feign some innocence) and jackal58 (is trying to look completely ignorant) this is REALLY suspicious, why does someone have to add this for their persuasion? looks like a scum slip-up tbh Read the rest of the post btw. On December 11 2010 14:13 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: sup guys! LSB, if we so asked it would you kill yourself upon being elected? Of course not. I would then default to the second highest vote. On December 11 2010 14:42 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: <3 sorry I will stop with the argument! I would rather establish smurfs with alternate play styles and run with a few different accounts than constantly making new names and asking for access and jumping through all the hoops that go with that -__-; ______ on topic. vote for me if you want, I will kill LSB day one! That is my platform. Legit, that is my platform. Upon being elected I will kill LSB, vote for me. <3 you too. I find it incredibly interesting that your suddenly coming up and attacking me after a large organized attack. There has been an overwhelming negative voice to my plan. Although I understand that people don't immediately trust me. I find it awfully convenient that your running for mayor under a platform of "lets lynch the first person who offered an idea of what to do with mayorship!" I'm fine with changing my plan. However, the thing is, if we're given the power to change how the first day vote goes, shouldn't we attempt to do something? If we're just going to stick with voting to see who to lynch, I don't see any reason why Meapak_Ziphh shouldn't be mayor. But we should use every resource that is available to us. | ||
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Election will end at 7 PM EST on Sunday, December 12. The kill submission must come before 9 PM EST the same day. So we'd better start looking to who to vote for. On December 12 2010 00:29 CubEdIn wrote: I'm just kidding, but yeah, that sounds like a swell idea. I would like Meapak as well but it seems that people started voting for him out of the blue pretty much, so I'm keeping my options open... still. We'll he is hosting open elections, so voteing for Meapak is a vote for the status quo. | ||
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However, if we want a good lynch candidate we should give ourselves lots of time to discuss it. Personally, I'm all for voting for a lurker. | ||
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On December 12 2010 04:39 why wrote: Hey LSB, why did your initial mayoral candidacy not include the method by which you would kill the first person? For everyone else that was the first thing they included, but you made a whole separate post about it about 10 minutes later, and only after you had been told that you had left it out. Give me time to type that out. That took most of the 10 minutes. While you all were asking, I was busy typing it out. You asked the question at 11:33 I posted my platform at 11:38 Do you really think I could maintain a WPM of 36.2 to quickly answer your question? + Show Spoiler + On December 12 2010 07:29 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Meapak don't sell yourself short! It's a very probably theory! Here let me do an analysis for you. Starts being difficult and harassing popular opinion, most likely to ingrain negative thoughts in the minds of townies. Comes out of no where applying for MoM and offering one of the other candidates who had the most popularity so far as his lynch no matter what. Probably contributing to his desire to look bad upon the town. Uses odd reasoning here, why would one have to prove their innocence? What the fuck is this England? Changes mind on the fly with what his plans were as MoM now asking for the input of other townies? Or just being difficult and distracting the town more. Conclsuion: With very little posts hes probably a traitor or a VI, posting in a very confusing manner with a seemingly differing agenda then the town. Should keep an eye on him if nothing else! This seems uncharacteristic of RoL to be this distracting and unhelpful to town discussion. Although I don't want to make any assumptions about a VI role, but it would really suck if annul put a VI in, and annul's cool. Right? Annul can you deny the existence of a Village Idiot role? | ||
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On December 12 2010 09:30 Airbag wrote: I think there is probably an easy solution maybe RoL is a VI so if someone is elected he shouldnt be lynched. i think instead a detective role should check him. if he is a scum then build a case and if he is a village idiot make sure he is not getting lynched i think we should vote for meapak, beneather, or someone who will go with the flow of town. i dont want a mafia to manipulate this vote so that is the best thing to do. lsb's secret vote thing is just not good and he sent me some pms that make me feel a little uncomfortable to be quite honest What's uncomfortable about the PMs? You never responded! I've attached it for your convenience. + Show Spoiler + I'd rather not draw that much attention to myself... ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LSB: If you want, you can be the auditor. The thing is, since I'm doing it, the mafia won't be able to slip in and and manipulate the vote. Changing the voting record is also a problem with normal voting. All the mafia has to do is decide slightly earlier. If you really don't like the private vote idea. (I take it the general sentiment is that they don't want it) We can do reasoned voting, or runoff voting ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Airbag: but if you are mafia it increases the ways in which you can manipulate the vote and it gives the mafia a long time to discuss how they'd like their voting record to look without ever having to appear wishy washy for changing it ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LSB: The issue is that people like to go with the bandwagon. It seems safer, and there is a false sense of security in voting with the majority. Private votes allow each person to make their decision independently. It cuts off ways for the mafia to influence people. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Airbag: I understand wanting to vote for a player with experience but you can just manipulate the votes if ur mafia Why not just have people post their votes publicly, then it's completely impossible for you to lie about it. | ||
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If you seriously think that's fishing... x.x Your main critisim was that I might be able to manipulate the votes. So I offer the position of auditor to you. It is incredibly strange why you immediately decline. Are you just attacking for the sake of attacking? Or do you actually have a concern about how the secrete elections would be held? | ||
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On December 12 2010 12:37 ~OpZ~ wrote: I was thinking that, but as you said in your next post. The vibes man....I'm feeling them.... Although to Airbag, just because you think he was fishing for your role, does that really make him suspicious? How many people do you think are role fishing in PMs right now? Oh, and RoL, you still lynching LSB if you win election? So OpZ why do you think I'm scum? These vibes of yours, do they go specifically doing anything? (Btw, I'm saying that Airbag was focusing more on just flat out rejecting all ideas, rather than working to create a workable idea). This? On December 12 2010 01:16 ~OpZ~ wrote: Fuck it, lets kill him. I don't think simple tells are enough to place LSB as mafia RoL....But he did expect us to let him get votes via pm? That's kind of laughable, unless he released the votes he received before the killing. I'm still reading over thread though. Shouldn't an Auditor Position take care of this? It looks like you just came in an just jumped on the bandwagon. | ||
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