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[SPL] CJ Entus vs WeMade FOX

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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-20 18:09:19
April 20 2010 02:45 GMT
#1
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Shinhan Bank Proleague 09-10 Round 4 Week 2


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CJ Entus vs WeMade FOX
Tuesday, Apr 20 9:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)




In the new Shinhan Bank PL format, post 2v2, 6 teams advance to the playoffs. 3 teams have a pretty cushy lead above the rest (KT, STX, MBC), 2 teams have relative safety in 4th and 5th (SKT and Woongjin) and should advance unless they hit a major slump.

6th place is much tighter. It's nearly a dead heat among WeMade, eSTRO, hite, KHAN, and CJ. Every win matters, and every chance to knock one of the other 4 down matters even more.

WeMade started the 09-10 season with an unimpressive lineup of Mind, Pure, Shine, and Roro. While not dominant, this lineup won consistently enough to win with some consistency and upset the big 5 once in a while. Constantly underrated, you'd hear cries of "Roro's raping my anti-team" in LR threads, streams, and FPL discussions everywhere. The 4 were winning at a rate just above .500, which is all you need for the playoffs. The problem was the lack of an ace. Shine was too predictable to be played for an ace match, and Roro just couldn't seem to win one. To solve this problem, WeMade called up Baby from the B-team. Baby's individual league success is nothing to dismiss with wins over Jaedong and Stork, and if he brings that level of play to Proleague, WeMade should secure a playoff spot, especially with the depth they gain from the rule changes that allow them to play old-schoolers Midas and Nada with more frequency.

CJ, at this point, seems like an unlikely team to finish in the top 6. The 2009 rookie stars of Movie, Skyhigh, and Effort have all hit slumps, although Movie seems to be recovering, advancing to the Ro16 of the MSL and Ro8 of the OSL. Could Savior's illegal gambling have cursed CJ and its players to not win a league, similar to how the White Sox didn't win a World Series for 86 years after their scandal? Regardless of curses, CJ is looking to their B-team much like they did when the Savior, Iris, Much lineup began to crack. Will CJ go balls-out to win a championship, or just try to give BByong, Rush, Snow, Devil, Miso, and Hydra as much A-team experience as possible?

Lineups will be announced before each game.
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(P)Movie <Match Point> (T)Midas
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(Z)Hydra <Judgment Day> (Z)Shine
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(T)Iris <Grand Line> (P)LuCifer
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(P)Snow <Fighting Spirit> (Z)RorO

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Ace: Roadrunner



Predictions:
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(P)Movie <Match Point> (T)BaBy
(P)Snow <Judgment Day> (T)Midas
(T)sKyHigh <Grand Line> (Z)RorO
(Z)EffOrt <Fighting Spirit> (T)Mind
(T)sKyHigh <Roadrunner> (T)BaBy

I went with the players most teams seem to play most on these maps, with a few snipes. Mind instead of Pure to snipe Effort on FS, which should fail, since Mind's TvZ isn't too good lately and Effort played a brilliant game against him a few months ago on Tornado. Skyhigh instead of Effort for ace match, since WeMade is likely to send a Terran and Skyhigh is the best vs T on CJ.



Results:
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(P)Movie <Match Point> (T)Midas
(Z)Hydra <Judgment Day> (Z)Shine
(T)Iris <Grand Line> (P)LuCifer
(P)Snow <Fighting Spirit> (Z)Roro



Recommended Games:
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Yep, watch it. That is all.

+ Show Spoiler [Set 4] +


+ Show Spoiler [Set 5] +





How to watch:
http://tv.zeroboy.net/HATEPLOW
Post your streams!



Polls:
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Poll: Who do you want to win?

WeMade FOX (12)
 
60%

CJ Entus (8)
 
40%

20 total votes

Your vote: Who do you want to win?

(Vote): CJ Entus
(Vote): WeMade FOX



Poll: Who will win?

WeMade FOX (14)
 
74%

CJ Entus (5)
 
26%

19 total votes

Your vote: Who will win?

(Vote): CJ Entus
(Vote): WeMade FOX



Poll: CJ's ace on Roadrunner?

Movie (5)
 
33%

Skyhigh (5)
 
33%

Effort (3)
 
20%

Snow (1)
 
7%

Hydra (1)
 
7%

15 total votes

Your vote: CJ's ace on Roadrunner?

(Vote): Effort
(Vote): Movie
(Vote): Skyhigh
(Vote): Snow
(Vote): Hydra



Poll: WeMade's ace on Roadrunner?

Baby (11)
 
69%

Roro (3)
 
19%

Pure (2)
 
13%

Shine (0)
 
0%

Mind (0)
 
0%

16 total votes

Your vote: WeMade's ace on Roadrunner?

(Vote): Baby
(Vote): Pure
(Vote): Shine
(Vote): Roro
(Vote): Mind



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hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
April 20 2010 02:57 GMT
#2
bring it home effort! wemade TOTALLY isnt a team you will play ZvT against...
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
April 20 2010 03:08 GMT
#3
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dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
April 20 2010 03:19 GMT
#4
Shine vs. Effort grudge match upcoming!

WeMade's success depends on how many terrans they want to bring.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
April 20 2010 03:35 GMT
#5
An (Z)EffOrt v. (Z)Shine rematch is needed...
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... in which EffOrt wins, of course.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9777 Posts
April 20 2010 03:37 GMT
#6
midas+nada+baby, wemade terrans will destroy CJ's movie/effort. skyhigh might stand a chance, but thats it.
boomer hands
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
April 20 2010 03:42 GMT
#7
I'm just wondering if EffOrt and Shine are going to play at all... They both have to be exhausted from the OSL rematches couple days ago. Same with go.go...
twitch.tv/dizzywee
Slurp17
Profile Joined September 2009
United States14 Posts
April 20 2010 03:53 GMT
#8
Pure, Midas and Nada got this :D:D
Dota2, LINKLINK Best player :D
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-20 04:19:39
April 20 2010 04:17 GMT
#9
On April 20 2010 12:37 majesty.k)seRapH wrote:
midas+nada+baby, wemade terrans will destroy CJ's movie/effort. skyhigh might stand a chance, but thats it.


I agree that we will see an all T lineup from FOX but I would count on Skyhigh to take a TvT, and after that it's pretty easy to see Movie or Effort getting 1 win between the two of them.
Then it goes to ace and Baby tears shit up ^.^

edit: actually, I would bet on Skyhigh beating Baby in a TvT

edit2: goddamn..take a look at Snow's vT record. CJ might be able to win this.
KTY
eleganten
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden35 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-20 07:57:49
April 20 2010 07:57 GMT
#10
Too much T in this matchup so I'll choose the STX-eSTRO stream. Holding my thumbs for Movie playing a great game against FOX
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
April 20 2010 08:33 GMT
#11
How can you predict Effort to win any ZvT =P
TranslatorBaa!
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
April 20 2010 08:41 GMT
#12
I don't think sKyHigh will lose TvT.
Moderator<:3-/-<
zmeqt
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria527 Posts
April 20 2010 08:52 GMT
#13
This is very hard,i ecpect great things from both teams this R4.Hoping for CJ anyway.
the slogans
Romantic
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1844 Posts
April 20 2010 08:58 GMT
#14
On April 20 2010 16:57 eleganten wrote:
Too much T in this matchup so I'll choose the STX-eSTRO stream. Holding my thumbs for Movie playing a great game against FOX

Bah! Good point. I am a CJ fan though, so I am torn.
zigrek
Profile Joined July 2008
Bulgaria45 Posts
April 20 2010 09:03 GMT
#15
rooting for CJ
thou shall play starcraft till the very end of days
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
April 20 2010 09:07 GMT
#16
On April 20 2010 12:35 tree.hugger wrote:
An (Z)EffOrt v. (Z)Shine rematch is needed...
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... in which EffOrt wins, of course.

Nah, shine will say his keyboard is broken and regame.

awesome.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
April 20 2010 09:09 GMT
#17
MOVIE VS MIDAS???

MIDAS PWN THE NOOB :D
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
April 20 2010 09:10 GMT
#18
is there an option to watch that dual stream that sometimes pops up?
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-20 09:12:25
April 20 2010 09:12 GMT
#19
OOps ^_^ GO MIDAS
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
wfoperational
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States143 Posts
April 20 2010 09:12 GMT
#20
On April 20 2010 18:10 below66 wrote:
is there an option to watch that dual stream that sometimes pops up?

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╮(╯▽╰)╭ wfbrood.com website admin 日本著名中锋赤木刚宪曾表示,控制篮板球的人,就控制了全场
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