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I want to make a formula to compare new sc2 apm and old sc1 apm calculated by bwchart, i need data about players with the old and new apm, for example:
killerone sc1 apm: 80 sc2 apm: 50
gosureaver sc1 apm:160 sc2 apm 0
killermachine: sc1 apm: 230 sc2 apm: 160
me: sc1 apm: 180 sc2 apm: 100
need feedback! =) please post ur apms here.
I think many of the innecesary(spam) apm are not calculated, and becasue of less needings about hkey, many players are using more action in move instead of hkeys.
or sc2 players are playing slow?? =0
EDIT:
From your data, i made this graphic::
using a simplified lineal correlation the best way of compares the sc2 and sc1 apms seems:
APM SC1= APM SC2 * 1,8
Maybe with more data from users or more accuracy in those, the graphic would be fine, but seems good for me.
How u can explain that ? idk, maybe many actions doesnt count in the sc2 apm calculator program, and the time parameter are different in the "faster" speed of sc2 and "fastest" speed from sc1.
Any thoughts about it?
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at sc1 i was 240-280
at sc2 (according to the chart you see in a replay) im 150-170
i'm very curious how sc2's implemented system calculates apm too. i am more than certain i play faster than 150-170 in sc2.. (i would say im actually at 220 or something)
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I believe its a function of them having the game set on faster for playing...thus one minute of game time is actually occuring in less than one real minute. When i do the replay it looks like "fast" is the closest to matching teh game clock.
I believe this is a big part of why everyones APM reads as lower than SC1.
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Someone posted a thread saying something like you have to multiply your APM by a certain number to get your true APM. I can't find the thread atm though.. Was it a thread..?
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WC3 160-180
SC2 95-110 in SC2 time
It definitely counts all actions. I don't spam, but when I watch replays of good players they generally do and there apm for the first minute is like 350.
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i've seen it said alot that the APM chart is normalized to the Fast speed rather than Faster and to get your real APM you need to multiply by 1.4
i wasn't competitive at all in sc1 but assuming the above's true i've gone from 110 to 130ish
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no offence, but your idea is stupid.
It is a different game, there are new mechanics, new things in the ui, multicasting, MBS, unlimited control groups, etc etc.
People are unfamiliar with the game, I don't even know what you want to achieve with your "formula"
To the other people, multiple the APM the game says with 1,25 and you will know your real apm
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On April 04 2010 05:46 Yoren wrote:
I believe its a function of them having the game set on faster for playing...thus one minute of game time is actually occuring in less than one real minute. When i do the replay it looks like "fast" is the closest to matching teh game clock.
I believe this is a big part of why everyones APM reads as lower than SC1.
pretty sure it's around 35% ish or 37 somewhere around there
100 =~135
150=~200
200=~270
rough guesstimation of course
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I think its not just a multiplier, that why i want to collect more data, and maybe its stupid, but maybe not XD Its not a totally different game, and apm can say somethig about play sense, mobility, and tactics.
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I posted this formula in another thread which no one responded to 
I'm not even that great at math so the logic behind this formula is probably wrong.
BW APM / 1.2 = SC2 APM x 1.38
Though the different UI should make it a little inaccurate.
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again, i'm not 100% sure on this, but i'm fairly certain that the game played on faster has a multiplier for apm/research/build times
look at the queens inject larvae description
puts a buff on the hatchery for 40 seconds costing 25 energy, however in faster you can spam the ability every 25 (26 i think actually) seconds
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On April 04 2010 05:53 Kinky wrote:I posted this formula in another thread which no one responded to I'm not even that great at math so the logic behind this formula is probably wrong. BW APM / 1.2 = SC2 APM x 1.38 Though the different UI should make it a little inaccurate.
that formula doesnt make me sense... u can use one multiplier instead:
BW APM= SC2APM x 1,66
but where u get this number? i wanna find it using basic statistics from tl.net users.
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i rly think apm isnt same then in bw ^^ i can spam as high as i want and i never get over 350 even with massive spam ^^
sc1 350-420
sc2 90-140
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Mine actually went up lol.
Sc1: 200
Sc2: 300.
This is with using the x1.35 multiplier because replays in SC2 show at Fast Speed.
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There is no way you are averaging 300 APM in SC2...
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Isn't it going on a lower speed.
Meaning the APM is measured at a lower speed setting than you are playing at. So technically its not APM in actual minuets but in game minuets.
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