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BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1166 Posts
April 03 2010 21:11 GMT
#21
BW : 180-190
SC2: 110-130
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rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
April 03 2010 21:12 GMT
#22
bw:150-180
sc2:150-160

im pretty sure im actually faster in sc2 than bw O_o
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-03 21:13:40
April 03 2010 21:13 GMT
#23
On April 04 2010 05:55 No_eL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2010 05:53 Kinky wrote:
I posted this formula in another thread which no one responded to
I'm not even that great at math so the logic behind this formula is probably wrong.

BW APM / 1.2 = SC2 APM x 1.38

Though the different UI should make it a little inaccurate.


that formula doesnt make me sense... u can use one multiplier instead:
BW APM= SC2APM x 1,66

but where u get this number? i wanna find it using basic statistics from tl.net users.

I read a thread a while ago saying Fastest on BW was 1.2x real speed and 1.38x was from http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Game_Speed

Btw, mine is 200 BW apm and 125 SC2 apm
Tiwo
Profile Joined March 2009
Netherlands306 Posts
April 03 2010 21:13 GMT
#24
From what I noticed from my replays, (not sure didn't test it fully), is when you spam a button and u get "Not enough minerals" or something simulair like that, it won't count as a Action.

SC1: 120-140
SC2: 75-100
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
April 03 2010 21:13 GMT
#25
SC1: ~150
SC2: ~100
HaruHaru
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States988 Posts
April 03 2010 21:16 GMT
#26
150- 90
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wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
April 03 2010 21:20 GMT
#27
sc1: 170 average
sc2: 120 average
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
April 03 2010 21:20 GMT
#28
there is any program to see sc2 games apm?
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4Servy
Profile Joined August 2008
Netherlands1542 Posts
April 03 2010 21:22 GMT
#29
220
120-140
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
April 03 2010 21:22 GMT
#30
On April 04 2010 06:20 arew wrote:
there is any program to see sc2 games apm?


You can view APM in replays.
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
April 03 2010 21:26 GMT
#31
On April 04 2010 06:13 Kinky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2010 05:55 No_eL wrote:
On April 04 2010 05:53 Kinky wrote:
I posted this formula in another thread which no one responded to
I'm not even that great at math so the logic behind this formula is probably wrong.

BW APM / 1.2 = SC2 APM x 1.38

Though the different UI should make it a little inaccurate.


that formula doesnt make me sense... u can use one multiplier instead:
BW APM= SC2APM x 1,66

but where u get this number? i wanna find it using basic statistics from tl.net users.

I read a thread a while ago saying Fastest on BW was 1.2x real speed and 1.38x was from http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Game_Speed

Btw, mine is 200 BW apm and 125 SC2 apm

I think BWChart uses 1 minute real time on Fastest for its "minute" (all other timings in BWChart do this--check the build times in BWChart then go check them in a replay if you want to confirm) ... so BWChart APM is actually actions per minute on Fastest.

So the division by 1.2 shouldn't be there in Kinky's first formula.
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Megaman703
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada688 Posts
April 03 2010 21:30 GMT
#32
SC1 - 110-130
SC2 - 80-100
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
April 03 2010 21:31 GMT
#33
On April 04 2010 06:26 crate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2010 06:13 Kinky wrote:
On April 04 2010 05:55 No_eL wrote:
On April 04 2010 05:53 Kinky wrote:
I posted this formula in another thread which no one responded to
I'm not even that great at math so the logic behind this formula is probably wrong.

BW APM / 1.2 = SC2 APM x 1.38

Though the different UI should make it a little inaccurate.


that formula doesnt make me sense... u can use one multiplier instead:
BW APM= SC2APM x 1,66

but where u get this number? i wanna find it using basic statistics from tl.net users.

I read a thread a while ago saying Fastest on BW was 1.2x real speed and 1.38x was from http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Game_Speed

Btw, mine is 200 BW apm and 125 SC2 apm

I think BWChart uses 1 minute real time on Fastest for its "minute" (all other timings in BWChart do this--check the build times in BWChart then go check them in a replay if you want to confirm) ... so BWChart APM is actually actions per minute on Fastest.

So the division by 1.2 shouldn't be there in Kinky's first formula.
He's right. One day I played a game on slow for shits and giggles, and we both had a zillion apm when we looked at the rep in BW chart. When the replay was sped up to fastest, we both looked so ridiculously pro. BWChart definitely uses a real minute, not a game minute. I have no idea about SC2.
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arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
April 03 2010 21:40 GMT
#34
On April 04 2010 06:22 wooozy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2010 06:20 arew wrote:
there is any program to see sc2 games apm?


You can view APM in replays.


Thanks =)
SC1 - 260-320
SC2 - 110
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Tiwo
Profile Joined March 2009
Netherlands306 Posts
April 03 2010 21:49 GMT
#35
Ok I tested it...
"Not enough minirals" clicking doesn't count, even though you shouldn't get that many of this over the period of the game, apart from start, or just when you click twice your hotkey when training a unit, but that is what, max 5 APM less? but I guess i sums up with the lower APM from SC2
No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
April 03 2010 22:15 GMT
#36
updated with your numbers =)
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ShinyGerbil
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada519 Posts
April 03 2010 22:23 GMT
#37
sc1: 190-220
sc2: 90-120
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
April 03 2010 22:24 GMT
#38
Your graph clearly does not pass the vertical line test.
:)
maple8
Profile Joined March 2010
United States27 Posts
April 03 2010 22:28 GMT
#39
Nice idea with the graph, but I would suggest that you just plot the points, with no line.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
April 03 2010 22:36 GMT
#40
sc1 90-130
sc2 120-150
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