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Clow
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Brazil880 Posts
April 03 2010 22:42 GMT
#41
sc1: 120
sc2: 75~80
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No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
April 03 2010 22:42 GMT
#42
On April 04 2010 07:24 synapse wrote:
Your graph clearly does not pass the vertical line test.


you are right, i think that we need more accurate data.
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
RyanS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States620 Posts
April 03 2010 22:46 GMT
#43
How do we know that bwchart and SC2 consider the same set of things as "actions" ?
f4n9
Profile Joined March 2009
8 Posts
April 03 2010 22:54 GMT
#44
lag affects the apm quite a bit...even the slightest lag...i dont feel like i can go even CLOSE to what i had in sc1, which was pretty slow
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
April 03 2010 22:57 GMT
#45
sc1: 230
sc2: 120
AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-03 23:03:51
April 03 2010 23:03 GMT
#46
sc1: 200-220 APM
sc2: 130-150 APM
after 2 years i reached it = marine icon
Mr.E
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States434 Posts
April 03 2010 23:05 GMT
#47
game is still growing and so is the skills of its players. When the skill cap is raised, one of the reasons for that will be the speed of the players.

Of course, this might not account for everything. I'm guessing we'll see a decrease in apm from sc1 to sc2, but right now I think the margin is inaccurate.
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Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-03 23:34:26
April 03 2010 23:34 GMT
#48
Keep in mind that the APM meter in replays is wrong when you play on faster.
starcraft911
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)1263 Posts
April 03 2010 23:51 GMT
#49
Spam APM is shown by the replay analysis dealy-bob 100% sure. It's really easy to test and confirm in about 60 seconds if you disagree. My APM was 230-270 in sc1 with a pretty uniform line. I do spam at the start of games, but my APM doesn't really dip, and usually spikes really high during big battles.

My apm dropped to 160-170ish in SC2. The first reason I think is because I spend a lot more time thinking about what I should do in SC2 and in SC1 I more instinctively play because I've put down a lot more SC1 games than SC2. The MBS system helps a ton because (especially in 2v2) it's common for me to have 15+ factory and 10+ barracks when i play terran. I would use a lot more APM to macro those in SC1 than SC2 for sure.

Also removal of spider mines i think dumped my apm a lot more... hellion take micro, but not nearly the same amount of apm to use full effective.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
April 04 2010 00:01 GMT
#50
sc1 : 220
sc2: 150
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Matrijs
Profile Joined May 2009
United States147 Posts
April 04 2010 00:03 GMT
#51
MBS and automine are both big APM-savers.
DrivE
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-04 00:14:05
April 04 2010 00:12 GMT
#52
sc1: 180
sc2: 110
lawl?
edit: yea i agree with the above post, with automine, the ability to select multiple buildings, and "smart casting", you dont need as much apm.
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zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
April 04 2010 00:15 GMT
#53
wc3: 120-150
sc2: ~90 (lower APM in the early game, cuz i dont spam^^)
keep it deep! @zulison
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
April 04 2010 00:16 GMT
#54
On April 04 2010 09:12 DrivE wrote:
sc1: 180
sc2: 110
lawl?
edit: yea i agree with the above post, with automine, the ability to select multiple buildings, and "smart casting", you dont need as much apm.

They save APM which then goes to other things like micro, which would increase the apm overall.
Kare
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway786 Posts
April 04 2010 00:21 GMT
#55
In Brood War you could fly all over the place with f1,f2,f3 and it was also 2d so it was easier to just move faster on the screen. In starcraft 2 it is abit more slow and you cannot use the f-keys to improve you apm alot.
In life you can obtain all sorts of material wealth, but the real treasure is the epic feelings you get while doing something you love.
EnvoYofAiuR
Profile Joined October 2002
Netherlands71 Posts
April 04 2010 01:29 GMT
#56
sc1 100-140
sc2 75-100
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snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
April 04 2010 01:35 GMT
#57
sc1 140
sc2 100
OverShield
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada41 Posts
April 04 2010 01:40 GMT
#58
WC3: 90-100
SC2: 70-85

So my "actual" APM is already higher after only 1 week :D
ig0tfish
Profile Joined July 2009
United States345 Posts
April 04 2010 01:52 GMT
#59
SC1- 120 (160 with terran)
SC2- 130
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-04 01:55:41
April 04 2010 01:55 GMT
#60
oh boy here we go again, just play the game, ur apm's ur apm, much like naruto and chakra u must focus within to find your true potential, ep 89. g;'day
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