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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15345 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 10:59:15
February 17 2010 22:13 GMT
#1
Excited to try out every possible SC2 Beta strategy? As are we! Please use this forum to share SC2 strategy guides, ask for help and advice, or discuss builds and strategy you theorycrafted.

The rules of this forum are pretty similar as for the legacy Broodwar Strategy forum. Please remember:

GENERAL RULES

Be respectful
There’s more than one way to tell someone they are wrong. Be respectful and disprove their ideas – do not attack the poster.

Let us know if you don't know what you are talking about
This is still a beta so there is a lot of room for speculation and experimenting. However, please make it clear that the ideas you’re bringing up aren’t standard and that you’re inexperienced in the area.

If you aren’t experienced in an area, do not give advice. Let me reiterate this for the SC2 Beta: If you are not experienced, especially if you haven't even played the beta yet, DO NOT GIVE ADVICE. You may cite or link to other peolpe's advice, but don't make up anything, or don't give advice on outdated build you played at Blizzcon. You can ask questions, stimulate discussion, bring up counter points, but your role is not to directly give advice.

Have a look at what is already there
Use the search function - http://teamliquid.net/forum/search.php
If you are searching for something basic, chances are we’ve talked about it several times. Put in some effort using the search function with a few different searches. For example, when wondering about Mutalisk openings, it would make sense to search for “Muta”, “Mutas”, “Mutalisk”, and “Mutalisks”. Remember that you can use Google search for common phrases.

If it’s clear that you didn’t use the search function or recommended threads before you opened a new post, your thread will simply be closed. If you do this repeatedly, you will be given a ban from the strategy forum.

Keep the forum clean
The goal of this forum is to get advice to those who want it. No one is going to kill you for a funny, slightly off-topic remark, but please keep it to a minimum. We will delete spam. Repeated offenders will be given a warning, and then eventually banned from the strategy section.

Don't reply in bad threads
If it's clear the original poster hasn't put any effort into his thread, don't reply. This encourages people to follow the correct format and put effort in their threads. The thread will be closed anyways, so you need not reply.

Bump old threads
If you have a question (or an important comment) that relates to the original post, then bump away! We want to keep similar advice grouped together to make searching quicker. That being said, if you bump an old thread with “Everyone should read this!” expect to be banned from the strategy section.

ASKING FOR HELP (Why did I lose?) RULES
If you do not follow these guidelines when asking for help, your thread will be immediately closed.

Original Post
(1) Thread Title
If you are asking for help, please start your thread with [H]. Make the title fairly descriptive and concise. Help threads will require replays attached, so there is no need anymore to put [Rep] at the end of your title.

(2) Post a replay of you
After describing the problem you’re having, attach a replay (preferably a game you lost, but not necessarily) illustrating the trouble you're having.

(3) Analysis (IMPORTANT)
This is where a lot of threads are going to be closed. Give your own analysis of why you lost. It might be wrong, but try your best. It doesn’t have to be long, a few point form lines is enough to give people a starting point to give you advice.

(4) Replies
You came here looking for help, so be respectful of the opinions people give you. If you disagree with a reply, cite examples or give some sort of analysis supporting why you disagree. If you engage in fruitless arguments with people trying to help you, your thread will be closed and you may be banned from the strategy section.

(5) Questions (Optional)
Asking any sort of specific question always makes it easier for the people giving advice to help you. It is encouraged.

Replies
If you don’t have experience with the original poster’s problem, this is not the thread for you. “What did I do wrong” threads are not the place to ask questions or present new ideas. Don’t post in these at all.

Experienced players should be direct and give advice that is generally accepted as standard. Their advice should be as specific as possible, as open-ended advice (“play faster”) isn’t very helpful.

QUESTIONS (How do I beat this?) RULES

It’s important to understand the difference. “Why did I lose” refers to a specific game where you can’t find what you did wrong. “How do I beat this” refers to a particular strategy, idea, or even map that you are having trouble with.

Original Post
(1) Thread Title
I’d ask that rather than using the [H], you use a [Q]. So [H] is for specific help, [Q] is for general situational questions.

(2) Analysis (IMPORTANT)
Your thread should ask specific questions. It is better to ask many specific questions, than one vague one. An example of an unacceptable question is: “How do I beat Templar with Zerg?” Ask yourself if someone could answer your question in one sentence. If so, it’s a good question.

After this, give your own analysis of how you think the question should be answered. It might be wrong, but try your best. It doesn’t have to be long, a sentence or two should be enough to get your thoughts down. Even stating what you thought would work, and why it didn’t, is enough to avoid me closing your thread.

(3) Replay (Optional)
Posting a replay (if you have one) may be helpful if you’re asking a vague question, but for obvious questions like “How do I react to 14 CC as Protoss?” a replay won’t bring any value and is not wanted.

Replies
Be concise and stay on topic. Feel free to ask questions as they relate to the original post. If you’re inexperienced, start your post by stating that.

GUIDE RULES

Original Post
(1) Thread Title
If you are posting a guide, please start the title with a [G].

(2) Your Reputation
You don’t have to post your PGT or ICCup rank to post a guide, but understand that you should be very experienced in the topic you’re writing about. If you just started using a new strategy, you don’t have enough experience to write a guide about it.

(3) Upkeep
This is your baby! I will be counting on your to keep your guide up to date. You should edit your original post to include worthy ideas that were brought up in the replies. You should answer questions that people are asking in the replies.

IDEA (Theorycraft) RULES

The "idea" category fills in the gap between "question" and "guide". Use this category when you want to start a discussion about a new (or unpopular) strategy.

Original Post
(1)Thread Title
Please use the [l] tag to denote an idea. (That's an "i" for future searching purposes)

(2)Applicability
Please make idea threads have some relevance to an actual game of Starcraft. No Queen rushes.

Moderation
Idea threads will be moderated less heavily, due to their nature being highly theoretical. This doesn't mean you should attack the original poster - stay on topic and be respectful.

SUMMARY:
Use the search function and recommended threads.
[H] for help, [Q] for questions, [G] for guides, [I] for idea, no tag for everything else (I don't know what doesn't fit into these 4 categories)
Try to answer your own questions.
If you don’t know what you’re talking about, don’t give advice.



SUPPLEMENTAL
1. Don't put ! before your thread title
This is common sense. Even if I asked you to write a thread for the recommended threads, I add the ! when I add your thread to the list. Putting it there will either make me think it's already been added to list, or (more likely), make me angry when you write a shitty guide you expect to be added. DO NOT PUT ! BEFORE YOUR THREAD TITLE.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
February 17 2010 23:16 GMT
#2
FUCK YES
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
mel_ee
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
2448 Posts
February 17 2010 23:17 GMT
#3
zOMG yes!
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 18 2010 00:01 GMT
#4
!!!

:DDDD
RIP Aaliyah
AtlaS
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1001 Posts
February 18 2010 00:02 GMT
#5
This is fucking ridiculous how quickly TL gets everything up and running.
I don't have mono anymore. Woooo!
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-18 00:03:34
February 18 2010 00:03 GMT
#6
Oh, hai little bro SC2
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
February 18 2010 00:04 GMT
#7
YES I LOVE THIS WEBSITE!!!!
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2748 Posts
February 18 2010 00:06 GMT
#8
KHAHARHAH
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
February 18 2010 00:14 GMT
#9
omg i want a beta key soooo bad T__T
http://twitter.com/jhNz
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
February 18 2010 00:16 GMT
#10
On February 18 2010 09:02 AtlaS wrote:
This is fucking ridiculous how quickly TL gets everything up and running.

heh we have some ridiculously motivated people on staff that have had stuff ready to launch for a while now
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24701 Posts
February 18 2010 00:19 GMT
#11
On February 18 2010 09:16 LosingID8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2010 09:02 AtlaS wrote:
This is fucking ridiculous how quickly TL gets everything up and running.

heh we have some ridiculously motivated people on staff that have had stuff ready to launch for a while now

Yeah I was gonna say you've probably begun brainstorming for this since May, 2007.

Good luck with the starcraft 2 strategy discussion.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
February 18 2010 00:21 GMT
#12
nice!~
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15345 Posts
February 18 2010 00:22 GMT
#13
On February 18 2010 09:19 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2010 09:16 LosingID8 wrote:
On February 18 2010 09:02 AtlaS wrote:
This is fucking ridiculous how quickly TL gets everything up and running.

heh we have some ridiculously motivated people on staff that have had stuff ready to launch for a while now

Yeah I was gonna say you've probably begun brainstorming for this since May, 2007.

Good luck with the starcraft 2 strategy discussion.

This is part of the problem haha. The brainstorming process ended yesterday.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Aurra
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States469 Posts
February 18 2010 00:35 GMT
#14
Well that didn't take long.
love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
February 18 2010 00:51 GMT
#15
I'm so excited! This is gonna be impossibly epic.
"I'm learning more and more that TL isn't the place to go for advice outside of anything you need in college. It's like you guys just make up your own fantasy world shit and post it as if you've done it." - Chill
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
February 18 2010 00:51 GMT
#16
Thank you for starting this Zatic ^^; Now all of the theorycrafting can occur and be tested.
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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
February 18 2010 04:52 GMT
#17
I have no idea how to play this game.
blabberrrrr
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-18 10:28:31
February 18 2010 10:28 GMT
#18
i don't want to start a new thread about this because i haven't played the game at all.
but i'm interested in the new maps. how do they play out, does it seem that they're balanced?
how do those new map-features play out like watch-towers, rocks and stuff? is it worth it to battle for the towers?

when the discussion grows, we could still create a new thread. but i don't even know the names of them... so
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Ziph
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands970 Posts
February 18 2010 13:37 GMT
#19
Haven't seen any replays yet of good games, replays still have a super small size 100kb ~ and can be found in your documents.
Starcraft 2 - Beta
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
February 18 2010 22:34 GMT
#20
On February 18 2010 09:22 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2010 09:19 micronesia wrote:
On February 18 2010 09:16 LosingID8 wrote:
On February 18 2010 09:02 AtlaS wrote:
This is fucking ridiculous how quickly TL gets everything up and running.

heh we have some ridiculously motivated people on staff that have had stuff ready to launch for a while now

Yeah I was gonna say you've probably begun brainstorming for this since May, 2007.

Good luck with the starcraft 2 strategy discussion.

This is part of the problem haha. The brainstorming process ended yesterday.


ROFL

nice work lol.
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
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