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[TSL] Tarson Penalized For Leaking Results

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TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net132 Posts
February 10 2010 05:59 GMT
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Tarson Penalized For Leaking Results

It has come to our attention that Tarson spoiled the results of his Ro16 match with Nony by posting on a Polish forum. These posts happened immediately after his match with Nony and several hours before the TSL Ro16 Broadcast that showed his games.

Tarson's Posts
(Translation from Polish included):
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"I advise you to not watch my games."

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"I'm just saying do not watch those fucking games, fucked up... [more expletives, grief, regret] ... fucking starcraft. I can't believe myself what has happened"

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"Where did I write result ? I'm saying to not watch [those] games, that's all lol ;]"

We understand the frustration and anger that comes with losing, especially in the way that Tarson lost. However, it does not excuse a player's actions. Here, the results were leaked in a Polish forum accessible by many people. While Tarson initially argued that he did not technically reveal results, what he said essentially gives away the final result of the series and encourages people not to watch. Later, Tarson admitted what he posted was incorrect, and issued an apology to us:

Tarson wrote:
As you probably know I kinda revealed my results vs Nony on a Polish forum. I was very frustrated after my loss but I shouldn't have said that. I want to apologize everyone for my behavior.


Normally, we would simply punish the player by taking away his prize money. However, this is the first incident we've had, and taking into consideration Tarson's apology, we feel that a 50% prize reduction ($125 penalty) is more appropriate. The penalized money will be donated to a charity to be determined later. This action is not about the actual monetary amount, but more about sending a message that leaking results is a serious offense. Temporary anger or frustration after a loss does not mean a player escapes responsibility for his own choices and actions.

For those that feel the penalty is still too harsh, remember that the TSL can only exist if results are not leaked by players. The players earn their prizes not only because they win, but because they generate a quality product for our advertisers. Spoiling results to anyone is one of the most damaging things a player can do to our broadcast. It greatly harms the TSL and our ability to secure sponsorship for future tournaments. Players were informed prior to the TSL that any spoilers would result in possible forfeiture of their prize money.

It is unfortunate that we were forced to do this. Aside from this one incident, Tarson was an exemplary player and dealt with us very professionally. However, we will not hesitate to punish future leaks with a full revocation of prize money. Hopefully, now that this incident is resolved, we will not have to do this in the future.

--TSL Staff
Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
February 10 2010 06:02 GMT
#2
Lets face it, Nony told everyone he would 3-0 BEFORE the match!
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MisterFailure
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada24 Posts
February 10 2010 06:03 GMT
#3
For those that feel the penalty is still too harsh, remember that the TSL can only exist if results are not leaked by players. The players earn their prizes not only because they win, but because they generate a quality product for our advertisers.


Just a reminder to read that part, hopefully flaming will be avoided >_>
NeoOmega
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States495 Posts
February 10 2010 06:06 GMT
#4
Eh this is a non-story. A tiny asterisk that will be vastly overshadowed by the huge WTF of the Ladder stage. I do like the decision though.
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
February 10 2010 06:13 GMT
#5
On February 10 2010 15:02 Red_Storm wrote:
Lets face it, Nony told everyone he would 3-0 BEFORE the match!

Haha =] sometimes you just know it
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
February 10 2010 06:52 GMT
#6
On February 10 2010 15:02 Red_Storm wrote:
Lets face it, Nony told everyone he would 3-0 BEFORE the match!

True that.
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
February 10 2010 06:52 GMT
#7
Very reasonable. Maybe you guys can let Tarson choose the charity?

On February 10 2010 15:02 Red_Storm wrote:
Lets face it, Nony told everyone he would 3-0 BEFORE the match!


Nicely done.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
February 10 2010 06:55 GMT
#8
On February 10 2010 15:02 Red_Storm wrote:
Lets face it, Nony told everyone he would 3-0 BEFORE the match!


Bravo

I'm sorry to hear about this though, I'm assuming he'll be even more bummed out after finding this out :/

Tarson fighting!
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domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 07:05:15
February 10 2010 06:58 GMT
#9
1) The player acknowledged his mistake
2) Justified by what's written in fourth paragraph

I do not have any criticisms of the decision.

Q: Once the penalized money has been donated to charity, is it likely that TL's community will be allowed to know the name of the charity?
Lahv
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3 Posts
February 10 2010 07:03 GMT
#10
I dunno, seems too harsh.
All you need is Lahv
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
February 10 2010 07:16 GMT
#11
Can Tarson choose the charity? That would be nice at least.

I would be bummed if I was in his position too
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
February 10 2010 07:17 GMT
#12
On February 10 2010 16:03 Lahv wrote:
I dunno, seems too harsh.

why?
nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
February 10 2010 07:20 GMT
#13
good compromise.
Vaul
Profile Joined January 2008
New Zealand112 Posts
February 10 2010 07:20 GMT
#14
Another spot-on reasonable resolution from TSL organisers imo.
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Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
February 10 2010 07:29 GMT
#15
On February 10 2010 16:16 triangle wrote:
Can Tarson choose the charity? That would be nice at least.

I would be bummed if I was in his position too

Agreed, that way he can at least "pay" for his actions in a good way.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
February 10 2010 07:38 GMT
#16
to charity? screw charity, make a small tsl competition like before, guessing the bracket or best commentary etc
the little money we actually have in the sc scene shouldnt just be given away o,o

Progamerpls no copy pasterino
sword_siege
Profile Joined September 2002
United States624 Posts
February 10 2010 07:39 GMT
#17
On February 10 2010 16:03 Lahv wrote:
I dunno, seems too harsh.

I disagree. This is a professional tournament. If you can't follow the rules and adversely affect the entertainment portion of the product then I think punishment is justified. I'm not happy about it but I fully understand the reasoning and support TL's decision.
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
February 10 2010 07:47 GMT
#18
Very well handled I kinda /facepalmed a bit expecting worse but the resolution surprised me well done
CaptainPlatypus
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States852 Posts
February 10 2010 07:52 GMT
#19
Well done, guys. It's a pity something like this had to happen. And in principle I like MorroW's idea of making it a community prize of some sort, though it may be a little late for that.
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
February 10 2010 08:04 GMT
#20
well played
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