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On February 13 2010 03:58 flamewheel91 wrote: The ones that evolve later are generally stronger! ...Like the dragons. Yay. But yeah it's based on a combination of time registered and post count. Though I've been registered for more than a month and have over 250 posts, so I'm a bit confused right now. [NSFW]+ Show Spoiler + Answer is here, but you have to make it to clazziquai´s post on page 4. http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=83238 | ||
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Waiting for more people running for mayor/pardoner. It is not that i dont like BC but he runs every game -_-! and Chezinu is getting annoying. I dislike Ver´s post about not digging to much on first day clues. With two mafia families pointing everywhere its a lot more likely that we can get something from a wrong or fake analysis anyway. Remember townies: this game is for mafia to win, modkilling assures that mafia wont hide in our inactive base and theyr primary goal is to hit the other family not mass murder the town. Super duper powers to our DTS too this game, if we manage to get one protected in the office that would be awesome. On February 14 2010 09:19 johnnyspazz wrote: Can't get to get started in this game, unfortunately I have family business to attend to and can't do any analysis until I get back later tonight. This made me lol. You mean "mafia family business"? | ||
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On February 14 2010 09:36 Incognito wrote: The game has started. Please DO NOT change your profiles. Then we can start by lynching L or Empyrean both players who wanted to change theyr profile. I mean its going to be a cointoss as always. | ||
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On February 14 2010 12:17 Abenson wrote: L v Ace... Flame war between vets o.o Is this a DEJA VU¿ Now centering on the important matters: So far there is just no plan on the table. I mean literally all the candidates for office are just proposing themselves. So im inclined to think l10f is actually a good man to be on the office. First of all he claimed blue. Second reason is more a personal choice but im just too bored to see the same guys always there: Ver, BC, Ace... we need some new blood, with the added benefit that he is more likely to misstep if he plays red. For the first lynch play i really oppose the general feeling that we should lynch an inactive. Im all in to kill a big name. Three that come inmediatly into my mind are: Caller. Half inactive up to now. Posted defending BC out of nowhere. L: Wanted to change his profile. Not really doing what he does in all games to benefit the town. BC: Already spotted by ver. In fact if you think about it most of the time we lynched an inactive first day we got a town side player. Just lynch someone in the big names. | ||
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On February 16 2010 09:50 Ace wrote: My vote was on redtooth. He claimed Medic. Thats why I took it away. Then I thought about his motive for lying at that point in time and it really didn't matter because Ver wasn't here anyway. So me switching my vote back within a few minutes changed nothing. There's no suspicion there. Maybe you should bother questioning the people that pushed him from Pardoner -> Mayor. Pardoner is more powerful than Mayor anyway. I disagree here Ace. From mafia pov its direct that knowing all the bgs-> confirmed townies or at least few chances of mafia from the other family + 3 votes is huge. Think about this: this game is more likely to go until 20 players remain unless one family is absolutely demolishing the other. In this case having a mafia having 3 votes and clearing up the targets with the bgs list is lot better than 2 pardons overall. Having a mafia mayor is a huge advantage against the other mafia, having a pardoner *may* save one of your foes but its not like the other mafia cant target him anyways next night. As you see pardoner <<<< mayor for a mafia player. So the point is, what is redtooth going to do about his claim¿ The best way to set this up is : Redtooth self claimed medic declares his target for protection before the night. This way the other family /assuming redtooth is mafia/ has the chance to hit that target and unreveal redtooth. It is win for that family because then they force the town to lynch him if he turns nonmedic, and it is win for that family in case the target survives because they can play knowing that redtooth is not in the other mafia. Thoughts¿ | ||
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On February 16 2010 12:36 redtooth wrote: shoot.. on emp... i wish L had released those PMs earlier but what the fuck he's playing terribly too. let me get a bearing on things before i actually start putting out analysis. until then, i think emp being green shows... DAY ONE CLUE ANALYSIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT. You are actually not helping to clear your image. | ||
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On February 16 2010 12:36 d3_crescentia wrote: Problem with this is if the declared target is in the same family as those that'll be targeting him - unless they're willing to sacrifice him. Ok. Then we force redtooth to protect a target from the town: me. As you see i cant not be in Redtooths family /if im mafia and so is him/ because that would be stupid. I cant be on the others family IM ASKING TO GET HIT and protected. What about that¿ if redtooth claims protection on me and he should be because that way he can prove himself then i will live. /unless there are stacked hits on me wish will be noted in the number of deaths/ If i die redtooth is mafia. THOUGHTS¿¿¿¿ | ||
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On February 16 2010 12:54 789 wrote: Malongo, your plan hinges on everyone going along with it and honestly participating. I mean say redtooth goes along with it ... why would a mafia family sacrifice a hit that may be blocked. Or say in the case that redtooth actually is a medic (yeah no, but let's just say) and BOTH mafia families hit you. It makes redtooth look like a lier. In a perfect world it is a good idea ... but it won't work in a practical application. A Supposing a mafia family suspects redtooth is mafia the will asap hit me to clear him. Its 3 votes + a protected role. They only lose a hit and prove redtooth, wich is useless because bg list is more likely infiltrated. Believe me the other family is liking his chops at this idea. B If hits stack¿ lol if hits stack i die and nothing else happens, redtooth isnt cleared and we have more gamble beetween families. Why wont work¿ i still dont see how can be bad for the town. Worst case scenario: mafia doesnt hit me and redtooth loses a protection that cant be directed to a town townie anyways. We have absolutely nothing to lose. | ||
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THOUGHTS¿¿¿¿ Redtooth where you at¿ | ||
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On February 16 2010 13:03 meeple wrote: Would we be able to tell if it was a double hit by the way the night post is written up? This is more a question for the mods Do you actually think mafia wants to stack hits first day¿ even in that case it will be noted by the number of hits. As long as Redtooth medic and only him protects me we lose absolutely NOTHING. | ||
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On February 16 2010 13:06 Mystlord wrote: I don't think the plan would work since I highly doubt the mafia would waste a hit like that. Remember that the other mafia family has 3 hits and each of them are going to be aimed at a potential mafia. Why would one mafia family waste a hit so early in the game? What do we lose¿ | ||
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On February 16 2010 13:06 Mystlord wrote: I don't think the plan would work since I highly doubt the mafia would waste a hit like that. Remember that the other mafia family has 3 hits and each of them are going to be aimed at a potential mafia. Why would one mafia family waste a hit so early in the game? Also put yourself into this situation: mafia is going to gamble with theyr hits anyway. Im offering a fair gamble: i think redtooth is mafia so by killing me that mafia a)kills a townie b)forces the town to lynch redtooth. | ||
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On February 16 2010 13:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote: What do you mean by what do we lose? Since you're discussing the mafia perspective... The town. I know that im town /and hell yeah if you are not really convinced at this point you are nuts/. What does the town lose. Even better: if i die any townie can come up with this in one or two days asking for self sacrifice to clear redtooth. Im very interested to read RTs reply. | ||
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On February 16 2010 13:12 789 wrote: I still don't see why the mafia would be licking their chops to cooperate. If they wanted to get rid of him they could act like townies and get him lynched. Why would they take a path that potentially wastes a hit and could potentially help the town greatly by giving them a trusted person to organize behind. Sure they know who a medic is if they want to target him - but I would think at least one of the BGs is still town aligned and he'd be protected. If they want to take him out there are other lower risk ways to do it and they wouldn't want to clear him. Mafia has to kill the other mafia to win. Having a guy that is likely to be part of one of the mafias in the mayor spot is clearly a big disadvantage to start with. Sure RT *may* prove himself. Then what¿ trusted BG list¿ he asks all the blues to pm him¿ he asks everyplayer to pm him his role¿ with 20 mafia in the game¿ Think about that for a minute. | ||
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And with all honesty i dont think you can have a good target to protect this night anyways. Last note because im heading bed: Any townie can use this ability in the future nights to prove RT. | ||
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