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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 28 2014 10:01 GMT
#1941
fucking fuck Mocsta wtf?!!!?!
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
February 28 2014 10:02 GMT
#1942
Now that Moc is practically flipped I'm starting to wonder whether Toad and geript have been bussing each other all game long. Cuz I'm running out of alternatives for ppl being scum. I'm basically at gum, geript, Toad, JJD atm and I explained why JJD is somewhat unlikely.

Went back to look at gumshoe cause of his first post which I commented like this:

Me to Mocsta:
Not yet, but it's the scenario where a scum gumshoe is most likely to act that way imo. There's always the chance that suki is also scum (and gum picks your side and throws some soft suspicion onto suki to gain cred). I don't think that a scum gumshoe would act that way if you were scum though.


On the other hand I'm starting to think that geript and Toad might have been bussing each other just to shit up the thread, which is the trademark of Toad scum play. What was the game again where he and I think VE bussed each other while going for the endgame?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 28 2014 10:04 GMT
#1943
Why did they lynch suki over Mocsta?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 28 2014 10:04 GMT
#1944
If geript and Toad were mafia geript is basically planning on playing the endgame all by himself. Do you think he can kill people fast enough before they get "confirmed"?
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
February 28 2014 10:05 GMT
#1945
On February 28 2014 19:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why did they lynch suki over Mocsta?


Well geript and Toad didn't.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
February 28 2014 10:07 GMT
#1946
On February 28 2014 19:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If geript and Toad were mafia geript is basically planning on playing the endgame all by himself. Do you think he can kill people fast enough before they get "confirmed"?


I suppose they hoped to get confirmed by bussing each other like that and then having one of them flipped at some point, theoretically giving the remaining guy a ton of cred.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 28 2014 10:08 GMT
#1947
geript refused to vote suki/Mocsta. On the other hand hmm.. he has been thinking Mocsta is town all game long so he basically could not vote for him.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
February 28 2014 10:08 GMT
#1948
However I can't rule out gumshoe yet. He was so sure of Moc being town and at some point when I was at danger of getting lynched he suddenly put suki on third priority and me at second when before I was only "in the wings".

Only when I claimed he decided to vote for suki.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
February 28 2014 10:17 GMT
#1949
One thing that bugs me about JJD is that he was around pre-deadline but didn't post anything afterwards.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
February 28 2014 10:19 GMT
#1950
That's usually where you should be hyper, post something like "sorry guys my read sucked" or at least form new opinions.

Like, he said this at some point:

On February 28 2014 00:36 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 00:09 Mocsta wrote:

I was wondering whetherh you disappeared or chose to ignore my comment about Thrawn/Shoe.
Guess its the latter

Sorry, Didn't really see that as a question @ first

Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 23:16 Mocsta wrote:
I think the real question should be whether scum gumshoe has any value to insert me as a town read at that point in time. You could argue he used me as a platform to leap onto Suki, but did this really go anywhere?

Well my answer u probably wont like because it involves pre-flip association but here goes:

I'm starting to suspect that suki may be GSs scumbuddy. It would explain why Gumshoe is trying to paint me in such a bad light for giving her a townread. It also explains his entry into the thead.

Like Maybe he sees you jump on her for her posting style and he's all like "Fuck, she's caught already. Lemme go bus a little to try to get something out of this." Like I already pointed out (and you sorta agreed to), your case wasnt very good. And also as you said, nothing seemed to come of it. He threw a vote on her when no one else was voting her and took it off pretty quickly.


Now suki flipped scum and JJD gets his confirmation, but doesn't want to write about it.

Much like geript not popping out and shouting immediately that Toad is scum for being on the Moc wagon.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 28 2014 10:21 GMT
#1951
There is also this:
On February 28 2014 11:08 geript wrote:
The bad news for me is that suki's dig at Toad makes it more likely that he's town. That makes me really sad.

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Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 28 2014 11:05 GMT
#1952
Mocsta has been modkilled. He was a Vanilla Townie.

Do not discuss the modkill until after the game.
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
February 28 2014 11:10 GMT
#1953
I don't have much time today either and I will definitely not be around at deadline.

I was reading the conversaton shortly before the flip and I am curious about Chyz.

On February 28 2014 08:44 TheChyz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 08:33 Vivax wrote:
Yeah well I'll give you the newbie benefit cause lynching people you don't find helpful is something you would like to do when you're new to the game.

However I don't like that you say you don't mind other people being lynched, since I would expect that you want the person lynched that you DO want to get lynched, and not anybody else you didn't really take a closer look at.

Or did you take a closer look at suki and Moc?

Well I wouldn't mind you or suki getting lynched if I had no choice in the matter. So if it comes to it last minute that somebody other than you three is going to get lynched and I'm able to lynch one of you, I probably will

@Chyz: The first part sounds like you did prefer a Vivax or suki lynch. Why didn't you switch your (wasted) vote from geript to suki to ensure that she would be lynched instead of your lesser scum read Mocsta?
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
February 28 2014 11:15 GMT
#1954
On February 28 2014 18:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 18:29 Vivax wrote:
Well, on the last two first. I found Chyz townie for that comment on wanting to lynch me even if I were a townie. Like, scum knows I'm town and mostly feels like I'm hardly attackable since the claim so they would not put it out there that the claim means jack to them and they would lynch me even knowing I'm town.

Overall the guy has said a few things that can come from newbie town, like lynching who is useless and not who is scum.

The above conclusion is based on the premise that scum is afraid to piss off/draw attention from townies that they can't get lynched anyway.

Cavalinho would need massive balls to do what he did as scum and his post flip reaction was similar to mine, so I went with town for that moment. But I still gotta read his filter with my scumhunting goggles on.

About JarJar I can say however that if he's scum he had massive balls too since gumshoe had been riding on the argument that he's scum for townreading suki all day long. And since suki was a very possible lynch he should have gotten cold feet at some point and reacted to gumshoe's pressure in a way that would be evident for somebody knowing her alignment.

On Chyz that is a really good point actually.

Dunno if i agree about Cavalinho. Do you mean it takes balls to call himself "right" after being on "wrong" lynch? Or what?

Also JJD, why would it take balls? I mean after the argument is on, he can't just go "okay okay, suki is in fact scummy" if he is scum and already decided to not call suki mafia.

@Vivax: Can you explain this again please?
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
February 28 2014 11:19 GMT
#1955
Dunno, I think we got a scared or lazy scum team given that the pre-lynch resistance against suki's lynch comes mostly from people I believe to be town.

Like, if scum had any hope to deflect that lynch it was by pushing Mocsta. Hard and well before suki got all that attention upon her.

JJD preferred gumshoe who was a more unlikely lynch and Mocsta was just kind of a meh vote, so I have my doubts about him being scum.

This is a novel argument btw. The one you want me to touch upon is that I think JJD wouldn't go all out and simply call her town when being poked for it. At least there should be some reasoning cause he would know he'd be called out for it later.

But I prefer the former points as explanation to this one.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
February 28 2014 11:24 GMT
#1956
I'm starting to get friends with the explanation that the Toad and geript shitstorm comes from two scum bussing, but I won't be sure until I'm able to rule out gumshoe somehow.

I guess I'll just shoot him cause no sandwich.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 28 2014 11:25 GMT
#1957
I think shooting the player who's been so far most right is not a good idea.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
February 28 2014 11:25 GMT
#1958
Oh and of course I was a possible counterpush to suki's lynch until I claimed.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 28 2014 11:28 GMT
#1959
On February 28 2014 20:25 Vivax wrote:
Oh and of course I was a possible counterpush to suki's lynch until I claimed.

Well tbh your play before and after the claim is like day and night. heh.--
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
February 28 2014 11:29 GMT
#1960
The other fishy thing about gum is that previously he put me at second place in his lynch priority JJD>Vivax>suki after previously having the priority JJD/suki>Vivax. He pushes me before the claim, votes suki when I claim, and then says this:

On February 28 2014 06:25 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 06:23 Vivax wrote:
Well until mafia knows what role I have, they won't know if it's worth blocking me. I can say that I'm not the doctor, so I can at the very least survive the first night being protected and take two roleblocks out of the game.


So? If your scum, you claim rb. If your town, you get rbed, scum doesnt shoot you, we do. I'm so glad you feel your doing such a service to town, but your claim literally says nothing about your alignment.

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