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prom1se
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada35 Posts
December 12 2011 21:29 GMT
#1861
Just wondering, what about Slasher? Has he or would be be willing to support this? His show times up nicely and his audience while mostly being Star Craft also extends to others video game communities (ie. people that may not have already voted).
Pred8oar
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany281 Posts
December 12 2011 21:30 GMT
#1862
Holy crap TB seems to have pushed the competition to a new level :D gogogo STAY STRONG, and keep voting :D
chaynesore
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia175 Posts
December 12 2011 21:30 GMT
#1863
On December 13 2011 06:29 prom1se wrote:
Just wondering, what about Slasher? Has he or would be be willing to support this? His show times up nicely and his audience while mostly being Star Craft also extends to others video game communities (ie. people that may not have already voted).

Everyone tweet slasher and ask him to do this!! We need another surge to fuck up her algorithm.
"When things get weird, I'm in my element." - Liquid`TLO
MadChem
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany218 Posts
December 12 2011 21:31 GMT
#1864
On December 13 2011 06:29 prom1se wrote:
Just wondering, what about Slasher? Has he or would be be willing to support this? His show times up nicely and his audience while mostly being Star Craft also extends to others video game communities (ie. people that may not have already voted).


tweeting on slasher might help...
"I am become death, the destroyer of worlds." - Oppenheimer
brachester
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia1786 Posts
December 12 2011 21:31 GMT
#1865
On December 13 2011 06:29 Toriko wrote:
I can't say I'm too confident in Glider winning.. She's catching up FAST. Obvious botting is obvious. No one in their right mind would be impressed by JenniferESL and vote for her. English is my 3rd language and I didn't need her or someone like her to teach me. All I needed was a TV and the internet.

Everyone, we cannot lose to a cheater. Facebook it, Twitter it. Everything counts!

i wouldn't say that it's not possible to be impressed by JenniferESL videos, but i dare say that the no of hardcore fans that would be generated from her channel can never be matched with the fans of husky, TB, day9, sc2 and esport in general.
I hate all this singing
Gin-san
Profile Joined November 2011
Croatia92 Posts
December 12 2011 21:32 GMT
#1866
IdrA could save the day with a tweet. Or even better Koreans, in Korea there are still a lot of unused votes. Victor should call HerO and make the oGs house tweet a round.
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Meiffeltower
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden674 Posts
December 12 2011 21:32 GMT
#1867
we are leading right?...
LEEEEE YOOOUUUUUNG HOOOOOO
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
December 12 2011 21:32 GMT
#1868
I'm telling you guys, it's a stunt by YT to just "equalize" the votes and keep us coming back to the page. I am choosing to believe this, haha.

SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
December 12 2011 21:33 GMT
#1869
On December 13 2011 06:17 caradoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 06:14 Cascade wrote:
On December 13 2011 06:09 chaynesore wrote:
On December 13 2011 06:07 pPingu wrote:
On December 13 2011 06:03 chaynesore wrote:
On December 13 2011 06:00 Ariovist wrote:
we need more graphs...

Ask and ye shall receive..

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I expanded the x axis to show how much time is left.
I find it curious how both votes rates of increase stay in proportion with each other...

EDIT: What I want to see now that I'm tracking, is another giant surge from us, to see if it surges for Jennifer at the same time.. If we can do that. We have solid proof guys. We need day9 or something.


Is it possible for you to provide a 3 days graph or something?

It would be really interesting

It would be, but no. I'm just doing this manually by refreshing every 5 mins while watching movies.. Maybe youtube has those stats...

I'll keep doing this until the comp is over though


Yes, and because of this method, we should be a bit careful before we use this as evidence for bot. Imagine if your reading is a bit early or late, due to caching, you being caught up in movie, youtube page not updating votes perfectly live or something. Then you will see correlated shapes like this. If you accidentally get a too short time interval, both increments will be low, if you accidentally take a too large time, both will be high.

just saying, don't be too hot on the trigger from this graph, as the information goes through a lot of steps, and any flaw will give this signal.


Not technically true--- notice how the lines never cross-- you would predict that they would very likely cross if there was no botting. You would also predict the existence of cases where portrait art inc/5min would increase while esl inc/5min would decrease, again, doesn't happen. What you would NOT predict if this was two organic processes is a tight correlation at 5 minute intervals, which you see here.

The spiky nature of the graph is (partially) related to intervals, but that's all.


umm, what are you talking about? >_> Why would crossing always happen without bots, and never happen with bot? With random (non-bot) influx of votes, the statistical errors would be small at this scale, and large time-errors would dominate and give this kind of behavior as you see. But this kind of arguments are wasted on TL I'm starting to realise, so nm me.

keep voting guys!!
MadChem
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany218 Posts
December 12 2011 21:34 GMT
#1870
MLGFAQ is on try to come through and plug the contest ;-)
"I am become death, the destroyer of worlds." - Oppenheimer
chaynesore
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia175 Posts
December 12 2011 21:35 GMT
#1871
On December 13 2011 06:32 Gin-san wrote:
IdrA could save the day with a tweet. Or even better Koreans, in Korea there are still a lot of unused votes. Victor should call HerO and make the oGs house tweet a round.

That's a brilliant idea.. My top 4 strategies now are:

1) Hoping one of the people in Glider's drawings gets the tweets from us and plugs it for their audience: Up thread : - http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/n9uwi/help_glider_by_tweeting_the_people_he_draws/
2) Day9 saving the day by going live with a special announcement to just plug the fuck out of the poll.
3) Slasher reaching out to the other gaming communities.
4) That idea of getting Hero/Zenio in contact with the Korean fanbase who'll just be waking up now.

Any of these will work for us I think, or at the very least, if the bot still wins, it'll prove that it works in proportion to Glider's incoming votes.
"When things get weird, I'm in my element." - Liquid`TLO
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5500 Posts
December 12 2011 21:36 GMT
#1872
On December 13 2011 06:29 Toriko wrote:
I can't say I'm too confident in Glider winning.. She's catching up FAST. Obvious botting is obvious. No one in their right mind would be impressed by JenniferESL and vote for her. English is my 3rd language and I didn't need her or someone like her to teach me. All I needed was a TV and the internet.

Everyone, we cannot lose to a cheater. Facebook it, Twitter it. Everything counts!

Same and I find it pretty ignorant that she thinks other countries don't have new year's resolutions, lol
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
ribboo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1842 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 21:37:37
December 12 2011 21:37 GMT
#1873
30 minutes ago Glider had a 14,5k lead. 45 minutes before that, it was 16k.
It's now 13,3k.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/edit.php?action=edit&post_id=1823&topic_id=293162&currentpage=92

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EnderCraft
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1746 Posts
December 12 2011 21:37 GMT
#1874
She has only took 1% off of Glider in the past hour or so. I don't think she is going to close at the rate she's going. I predict a win for Glider, Art, Mankind, The universe and ESPORTS!
SC:BW has a higher skill ceiling than SC2? SC 64 is where it's at brah.
Maitolasi
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland441 Posts
December 12 2011 21:37 GMT
#1875
Someone tweet a celebrity he's drawn with a video and maybe they would retweet it for a massive boost
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8313 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 21:38:51
December 12 2011 21:37 GMT
#1876
On December 13 2011 06:23 chaynesore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 06:15 TheDougler wrote:
On December 13 2011 06:06 caradoc wrote:
On December 13 2011 06:03 chaynesore wrote:
On December 13 2011 06:00 Ariovist wrote:
we need more graphs...

Ask and ye shall receive..

[image loading]

I expanded the x axis to show how much time is left.
I find it curious how both votes rates of increase stay in proportion with each other...

EDIT: What I want to see now that I'm tracking, is another giant surge from us, to see if it surges for Jennifer at the same time.. If we can do that. We have solid proof guys. We need day9 or something.



Lol---- absolutely ridiculous, this is so obviously a bot


Can someone extrapolate the first graph to project the numbers at 5:00 please?

(Probably the most bizzare thing I've ever asked, but figured I'd put it out there.)

[image loading]

And as somebody else stated, we do have to take these graphs with a grain of salt. Nevertheless, I'll be recording this information anyway and keeping the information as raw as possible. If we're worried about repeatability, we could have a few other guys keep track as well.

Back to the graph though.. note it's still maintaining proportions. Also kind of funny how close they come together by the end. We should be worried I think....


Thank you so much! My goodness this community is terrific.


Edit: also yeah that's a close finish...
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
MadChem
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany218 Posts
December 12 2011 21:38 GMT
#1877
On December 13 2011 06:37 Maitolasi wrote:
Someone tweet a celebrity he's drawn with a video and maybe they would retweet it for a massive boost


already been done earlier...
"I am become death, the destroyer of worlds." - Oppenheimer
Glider
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1353 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 21:43:19
December 12 2011 21:38 GMT
#1878
On December 13 2011 06:31 brachester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 06:29 Toriko wrote:
I can't say I'm too confident in Glider winning.. She's catching up FAST. Obvious botting is obvious. No one in their right mind would be impressed by JenniferESL and vote for her. English is my 3rd language and I didn't need her or someone like her to teach me. All I needed was a TV and the internet.

Everyone, we cannot lose to a cheater. Facebook it, Twitter it. Everything counts!

i wouldn't say that it's not possible to be impressed by JenniferESL videos, but i dare say that the no of hardcore fans that would be generated from her channel can never be matched with the fans of husky, TB, day9, sc2 and esport in general.


I've mentioned this before but I'll mention again.

as each time there is a new promotion for me, my channel received influx of users and views beyond the norm as expected, real traffic is coming in and votes are cast, completely correlates each other. my channel view gains and subs increases is reflective of this...
http://vidstatsx.com/v/ThePortraitArt


This is competitor channel data... everything is completely flat, no one is going to her channel beyond the norm, watching her video or subscribing... yet this channel's votes is about to surpass us.

http://vidstatsx.com/v/jenniferESL

I would like to emphasize that this is most likely not Jennifer herself's doing, so remain respectful to her.


urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 21:41:30
December 12 2011 21:38 GMT
#1879
I just got a text from my mum (a retired primary school teacher) asking if I could vote for "the teacher on youtube" if I have the time. I think I might know where some of these votes are coming from. And no, my mom isn't a bot.

I hope.

Edit: Yep, I asked about it and she apparently got a newsletter forwarded by teachers from her old school.
Who dat ninja?
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
December 12 2011 21:39 GMT
#1880
i really dont understand where jeniferESL votes come from... i mean her avg viewers are ~30k with the top nouch video is around 100k views... subscribers is 70k... ~_~...
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