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On September 02 2013 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
I was one of the initial pushers on Felkyr and got people off geript for a while until he came back to the thread.
CONTRIBUTION GUYS.
So you're saying "got people off geript" as it would have been a merit, yet your latest opinions state you want him dead?
One of the initial sheeps you mean? I just checked again to be sure, and after seeing at least 3 people before you I stopped reading further back. One of the few people you've pressured a little, yet you haven't seemingly cared about him at all in a while. And you still think it's a merit for you?
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On September 02 2013 02:54 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 02:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
If at obviously least half the people on that list are town why are do you even list them or "mark" them as suspicious. Have you not decided which half yet?????? Since you're around, do you have any opinion on the three players I mentioned?
Actually taking off for a bit, speaking to a friend on skype.
I'd have to read up on them, although I think their filters are quite small. I'll definitely post my thoughts on them before deadline though. From memory: risen seems town. He's playing different from GoT but he seemed pretty upset at the reactions at his opening post there, so I can see the change, and I think the change is for the better. He's not the most active but that's fine.
cakepie: lurker... right? Can't remember anything he's done
bumbum: I think his exchange with dandel seemed genuine but has he done anything since?
I'll let you know a bit later if anything changes.
What are your thoughts on zentor, kita?
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On September 02 2013 02:50 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 02:47 MrZentor wrote:On September 02 2013 02:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
How the fuck can you be extremely suspicious of 7 people for doing the exact same thing.
Can you narrow down the list, maybe? Because you didn't actually... do anything. I'm purposely not narrowing down the list until geript flips scum, because if he ends up not flipping scum, all the time spent narrowing down the list would be wasted. (Obviously at least half of the people on the list are almost certainly town) On September 02 2013 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
MrZentor explain to us how i did "my best" to save geript? Raynpelikeoneet, explain to us how I said that you did your best to save geript. Erm. No it wouldn't. Unless you're saying all 7 of those names are town if geript flips town.... Saying you're extremely suspicious of 7 people is completely useless, it puts no pressure on anyone and it looks like you're just throwing stuff at a wall and seeing what sticks. Please narrow that list down for me, 2/3 names would be cool.
Yes, it would, because most of my theories about who is mafia and who isn't in that list would be founded on the fact that geript is scum. And if it turns out he's town, all that time would have been wasted.
On September 02 2013 02:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
If at obviously least half the people on that list are town why are do you even list them or "mark" them as suspicious. Have you not decided which half yet??????
You're kidding, right? Everybody knows which half it is.
On September 02 2013 02:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 02:33 MrZentor wrote:On September 02 2013 02:20 strongandbig wrote:On September 02 2013 01:54 MrZentor wrote:
I'm extremely suspicious of the following people: Oatsmaster, Dandel Ion, Mr. Cheesecake, Clarity_nl, Koshi, raynpelikoneet, VayneAuthority and their shady attempt to save geript.
We should definitely lynch one of them if a vigilante manages to kill geript. What about me and my completely open attempt to persuade people not to vote geript? Did you read the thread or just the votes? Why would scum try to "save" geript if they knew the votes didnt matter anyway? And isn't trying to "save" geript only scummy if he flips scum? Or do you already know that he will? Yes, obviously there are people who tried to saved geript and didn't vote for felkyr, but they clearly weren't doing their best to save him and therefore not as likely to be scum .So he could wait to use his ability for when it would be much more useful? I should have been clear that I'm assuming geript flips scum. I think it's likely given the circumstances. It's also why I said the some of the people were "extremely suspicious" instead of saying that there were definitely scum in the list. I dunno, from the bolded part i drew the conclusion that the list you gave were people who were doing their best as you find them suspicious. If that's not what you mean, what do you mean with the bolded statement?
I've said this before; that list is simply the people who voted felkyr at any point in time.
What I mean by that statement is that doing your best to save geript is a combination of trying to persuade others to not vote for him and voting felkyr. Just because you voted for felkyr doesn't mean you did your best to save geript, which is why many in the list are likely innocent.
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On September 02 2013 03:02 Cephiro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
I was one of the initial pushers on Felkyr and got people off geript for a while until he came back to the thread.
CONTRIBUTION GUYS.
So you're saying "got people off geript" as it would have been a merit, yet your latest opinions state you want him dead?
One of the initial sheeps you mean? I just checked again to be sure, and after seeing at least 3 people before you I stopped reading further back. One of the few people you've pressured a little, yet you haven't seemingly cared about him at all in a while. And you still think it's a merit for you?
You read my filter. And you didnt see that I think Felkyr town? Yeah bullshit.
It means that I was pushing something rather than you said I was just staying back and not being useful.
ceph scum, Ezpz.
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On September 02 2013 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
EBWOP.
Mr Z has less people to look at to find scum and he can use the main reason of trying to push the lynch to another person other than geript to push these dudes.
Essentially, you're saying that if geript flips scum, it would be bad to be suspicious of the people who tried to save him.
Am I reading this right?
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On September 02 2013 03:11 Oatsmaster wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 02 2013 03:02 Cephiro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
I was one of the initial pushers on Felkyr and got people off geript for a while until he came back to the thread.
CONTRIBUTION GUYS.
So you're saying "got people off geript" as it would have been a merit, yet your latest opinions state you want him dead?
One of the initial sheeps you mean? I just checked again to be sure, and after seeing at least 3 people before you I stopped reading further back. One of the few people you've pressured a little, yet you haven't seemingly cared about him at all in a while. And you still think it's a merit for you? You read my filter. And you didnt see that I think Felkyr town? Yeah bullshit. It means that I was pushing something rather than you said I was just staying back and not being useful. ceph scum, Ezpz.
Oh whoopsie, are you already forgetting who you thought was town and whom scum?
Your latest opinion on geript, whom I was referencing to:
On September 02 2013 01:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
nononono
Geript is playing like a caught scum.
Why else kill the strongest townie in the game?
Your three latest posts about Felkyr, from latest to oldest:
On September 01 2013 04:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
Felkyr seems to be trying his best I feel CC. TOO BAD.
Not geript too man. QUICKLYNCH YAMATO.
I assume this is where you "think Felkyr is town".
And the two before..
On September 01 2013 01:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
Felkyr, why arent you asking anyone questions????
On August 31 2013 21:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also Felkyr is totally scum man. Dont be fooled by newb townie, even any new townplayer wouldve at least done something other than SETUP SPECULATION. Its the easiest thing to pick up on for new scum because the thoughts surrounding them arent fake.
... Yeah. Try again?
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What is the point of the list MrZ? Everybody can see who voted for Felkyr at some point of D1 and who didn't..
It's completely useless contribution and you just said yourself it was a completely useless contribution.
I don't understand what you are trying to do?
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The point of it is to tell everybody that if geript flips scum, we need to lynch somebody in that list.
That's all.
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kitaman27
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MrZentor, you seemed to suggest that you have some sort of lynch rigging ability. Do you suspect that geript has that mafia equivalent of your role? A theme that might be present this game is town/mafia role variants, perhaps similar to hassy/evil twin and one other that I think I noticed.
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And so Oats went very quiet for half an hour. Because he could not respond without seeming even more guilty.
Your reaction was exactly I was expecting, and it confirmed my thoughts about you. I thank thee for co-operating, all that remains is to say, farewell scum.
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On September 02 2013 03:45 kitaman27 wrote:
MrZentor, you seemed to suggest that you have some sort of lynch rigging ability. Do you suspect that geript has that mafia equivalent of your role? A theme that might be present this game is town/mafia role variants, perhaps similar to hassy/evil twin and one other that I think I noticed.
Whhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttttttt
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Oh, my first post.
No, I would have been much more subtle.
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Hey guys
I would like to lynch Dandel after the night be over.
His early trolling with effort shitfest wasn't a typical "townie troll". Whereas in the games where townies troll, they dont' put a lot of effort into their trolling. They troll because they don't want to put in effort, or they don't care. Dandel's early post showed effort and careful thought.
This post especially raises flags
On August 30 2013 22:03 Dandel Ion wrote:
Uhm
I can understand wanting to lynch geript based on absolutely nothing
in fact, that was my second plan for re-entering the thread, but I went with this one.
So
I guess that means it's null to me
Why would town dandel have multiple "plans" for entering the thread? That shows he has some sort of agenda, which, at that point in the game, with his trolling, shouldn't be the case if he were town. With as little scumhunting that was going on early and with all the trolling, having a plan at that point (besides just finding scum) should never have happen if he were town
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On September 02 2013 03:21 MrZentor wrote:
The point of it is to tell everybody that if geript flips scum, we need to lynch somebody in that list.
That's all.
The way you decide to do this is to write out all 7 names and call all seven "extremely suspicious". Instead of just saying "if geript flips red we should look at the people who vote felkyr"
On September 02 2013 02:33 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 02:20 strongandbig wrote:On September 02 2013 01:54 MrZentor wrote:
I'm extremely suspicious of the following people: Oatsmaster, Dandel Ion, Mr. Cheesecake, Clarity_nl, Koshi, raynpelikoneet, VayneAuthority and their shady attempt to save geript.
We should definitely lynch one of them if a vigilante manages to kill geript. What about me and my completely open attempt to persuade people not to vote geript? Did you read the thread or just the votes? Why would scum try to "save" geript if they knew the votes didnt matter anyway? And isn't trying to "save" geript only scummy if he flips scum? Or do you already know that he will? Yes, obviously there are people who tried to saved geript and didn't vote for felkyr, but they clearly weren't doing their best to save him and therefore not as likely to be scum . So he could wait to use his ability for when it would be much more useful? I should have been clear that I'm assuming geript flips scum. I think it's likely given the circumstances. It's also why I said the some of the people were "extremely suspicious" instead of saying that there were definitely scum in the list.
Alright, let's just buy this explanation that you didn't scumslip and you were simply talking about a scenario where geript flips scum.
How is trying to push a wagon that is not geript fine, but if it is felkyr it is extremely suspicious.
stronganbig has it right. It seems like you haven't even read the game and you just went off the votecount to paint a wide array of people scummy.
Not only did you backtrack from 100% certain geript will flip scum to "I dunno what he'll flip but if he flips scum blabla"
But then there's this:
On September 02 2013 02:47 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 02:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
How the fuck can you be extremely suspicious of 7 people for doing the exact same thing.
Can you narrow down the list, maybe? Because you didn't actually... do anything. I'm purposely not narrowing down the list until geript flips scum, because if he ends up not flipping scum, all the time spent narrowing down the list would be wasted. (Obviously at least half of the people on the list are almost certainly town)
This is some class A bullshit. You just explained why you don't wanna waste a bunch of time narrowing down the list, and then you immediately follow it by saying Obviously at least half of the people on the list are almost certainly town. If it is obvious, why would you have to spend ANY amount of time on it?
If it is obvious, why do you call EVERYONE on that list suspicious??
I try to make him clarify:
On September 02 2013 03:06 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 02:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
If at obviously least half the people on that list are town why are do you even list them or "mark" them as suspicious. Have you not decided which half yet?????? You're kidding, right? Everybody knows which half it is.
Zentor is saying everybody knows which of the people on that list are likely town.
Then WHY DID YOU CALL EVERYONE ON THAT LIST EXTREMELY SUSPICIOUS.
Zentor cannot keep his story straight, which means he's not actually thinking about the game.
His posts (especially this votecount analysis without context) are designed to make it look like he's thinking about the game.
Therefore Zentor is scum.
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I'm not always clear about my ideas, so I'm scum.
Dat logic.
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On September 02 2013 03:02 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 02:54 kitaman27 wrote:On September 02 2013 02:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
If at obviously least half the people on that list are town why are do you even list them or "mark" them as suspicious. Have you not decided which half yet?????? Since you're around, do you have any opinion on the three players I mentioned? Actually taking off for a bit, speaking to a friend on skype. I'd have to read up on them, although I think their filters are quite small. I'll definitely post my thoughts on them before deadline though. From memory: risen seems town. He's playing different from GoT but he seemed pretty upset at the reactions at his opening post there, so I can see the change, and I think the change is for the better. He's not the most active but that's fine. cakepie: lurker... right? Can't remember anything he's done bumbum: I think his exchange with dandel seemed genuine but has he done anything since? I'll let you know a bit later if anything changes. What are your thoughts on zentor, kita?
Alright so after reading up.
I stand by my Risen read.
On August 31 2013 16:13 Risen wrote:
Well I don't really like Cheesecakes case on me, but that's probably just bias against someone attacking me. I don't have a problem with him misinterpreting my read statement, because as it's written that's how I would read it too. I do have a problem with him saying I'm apprehensive about my actions.
I haven't flung any shit this game. I simply pointed something out I thought the thread and WoS should be aware of. Pointing something that is anti-town out isn't flinging shit, or every single case ever made in mafia is flinging shit. So I feel justified thinking that while a town cheesecake wouldn't hyperbolize, a scum cheesecake would. His case on me feels so slimy, like he's trying to twist my words into meaning something they don't.
Feels very genuine.
Cakepie: oh right he's the one that came in with a "placeholder" vote on alakaslam.
Although when I asked for a read on oats he noticed the same things I did...
I like his vote on felkyr, I dislike his announcement of it being a pressure vote.
So yeah, definitely not a lurker, although he has a 1 page filter. Things I like, things I dislike. Null/scummy? Need to see more.
randombum: Another 1 page filter, less to go on than cakepie. I actually want this guy shot now that I've read up on him, but I doubt I could convince people to lynch him... At least cakepie was moving his vote around, trying to make stuff happen, randombum has a 1 page filter and most of it is fluff.
Kita I asked you for your opinion on zentor when I left, I still want it.
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On September 02 2013 04:43 MrZentor wrote:
I'm not always clear about my ideas, so I'm scum.
Dat logic.
It's not that you're not clear, it's that you're inconsistent. Big difference.
If you were town and you had a bunch of townreads in that list of 7 you would not call all 7 extremely suspicious.
Anyway, no need to talk to you anymore, time to die scum.
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Clarity look at my post on dandel dawg
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