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Pyo
United States738 Posts
1. 2. sinani206--------------- RebirthOfLeGenD 3. RebirthOfLeGenD--- Fishball 4. Fishball------------------ RebirthOfLeGenD 5. Sandroba--------------- 6. Pyo----------------------- 7. supersoft--------------- 8. nard---------------------- Sandroba 9. Misder------------------- Fishball Fishball (4) RebirthOfLeGenD (2) Sandroba (2) | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
So if RoL is the vigilante, there is a lying blue among sinani206, Sandroba, supersoft and nard. I'll give RoL benefit of doubt, and take my vote off him for now. That leaves myself, Pyo and Misder claiming green. Unless there is a green who claimed blue (which is stupid if there is any), one out of the three greens are lying; Much better odds than hunting the lying blue. I am putting my vote on Misder, as he was brought up by others earlier, and I don't like the fact that he plain switched his vote onto me right after RoL claimed. Any blues that are still voting for RoL or Sandroba should focus their votes on the greens.VisceraEyes was killed off in RTM, mod killed in Closed Casket since he felt he was being bullied by vets, so he wanted to leave this game since he wasn't in the mood to play anymore. I know I'm green and I'm here trying to convince you. Pyo has been rather helpful and active thus far, and I'm obviously not going to vote for myself, so I'm putting my vote on Misder. ##Unvote ##Vote: Misder | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On July 04 2011 02:17 Pyo wrote: I still think that Misder is the mafia, but mafia last second vote changing to sandroba could really mess with things, so I'm going to change my vote to Fishball to ensure that a townie is lynched tonight. Basically, RoL just claimed vigi, so if he's lying the real vigi will kill him tonight. If he's telling the truth, either Fishball is mafia and we can now focus on DTs or Fishball is town leaving RoL to decide between me or Misder to kill tonight. Even if he for whatever reason decides kills me, town will know who to lynch the following day. ##Unvote ##Vote: Fishball The way I am going to play this is to kill Misder last. From a mafia stand point its a stupid claim, because then once Misder dies sinani is obviously the other scum. So I won't kill Misder, and if I end up being wrong and misder is scum then you know both mafia. Problem solved! | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On July 04 2011 04:51 Fishball wrote: Well, good morning, or afternoon rather. So if RoL is the vigilante, there is a lying blue among sinani206, Sandroba, supersoft and nard. I'll give RoL benefit of doubt, and take my vote off him for now. That leaves myself, Pyo and Misder claiming green. Unless there is a green who claimed blue (which is stupid if there is any), one out of the three greens are lying; Much better odds than hunting the lying blue. I am putting my vote on Misder, as he was brought up by others earlier, and I don't like the fact that he plain switched his vote onto me right after RoL claimed. Any blues that are still voting for RoL or Sandroba should focus their votes on the greens.VisceraEyes was killed off in RTM, mod killed in Closed Casket since he felt he was being bullied by vets, so he wanted to leave this game since he wasn't in the mood to play anymore. I know I'm green and I'm here trying to convince you. Pyo has been rather helpful and active thus far, and I'm obviously not going to vote for myself, so I'm putting my vote on Misder. ##Unvote ##Vote: Misder I have the same thoughts as you on pyo, but I view the only logical way to go about this is killing Misder last, since he is a most likely townie or we win the game by knowing him and sinani are scum. So unfortunately that means lynch or kill you, then lynch or kill Pyo. Pyo looked down, so I opted to try to lynch Viscera and hope for the best case scenario. If you aren't scum then i will vigi Pyo tonight leaving Misder as the only other possible scum, and since he is not a likely "Cover" candidate, or even a check candidate I would assume that Sinani must be lying. | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On July 04 2011 02:17 Pyo wrote: I still think that Misder is the mafia, but mafia last second vote changing to sandroba could really mess with things, so I'm going to change my vote to Fishball to ensure that a townie is lynched tonight. Basically, RoL just claimed vigi, so if he's lying the real vigi will kill him tonight. If he's telling the truth, either Fishball is mafia and we can now focus on DTs or Fishball is town leaving RoL to decide between me or Misder to kill tonight. Even if he for whatever reason decides kills me, town will know who to lynch the following day. ##Unvote ##Vote: Fishball If you think Misder is Mafia, it doesn't make sense to vote for me. Just to prevent Mafia from a last second vote change? There are only 2 Mafia. One of them is very likely among the green and can't easily change his vote; That's like screaming "lynch me please". If the other Mafia wanted to do a last second move, he is basically giving himself out. Like mentioned, everyone should have their votes among the greens now. | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On July 04 2011 05:02 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I have the same thoughts as you on pyo, but I view the only logical way to go about this is killing Misder last, since he is a most likely townie or we win the game by knowing him and sinani are scum. So unfortunately that means lynch or kill you, then lynch or kill Pyo. Pyo looked down, so I opted to try to lynch Viscera and hope for the best case scenario. If you aren't scum then i will vigi Pyo tonight leaving Misder as the only other possible scum, and since he is not a likely "Cover" candidate, or even a check candidate I would assume that Sinani must be lying. That's a rather long route that you choose, and you are assuming that Mafia will let you live. If you are likely to hit one of their own, I'm sure they would rather kill you and waste another lynch to buy another cycle. To me, I would lynch Misder. If he is red, me and Pyo are 99% cleared. If Misder flips green, and if you are still alive, I wouldn't have a problem if you have to hit me, of if Town lynches me then. Regardless, I honestly don't see how Mafia can win this game. After we sort out the lone Mafia among the greens, it's a matter of time before the DT's can figure out the math game and lynch the blue poser. | ||
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Pyo
United States738 Posts
On July 04 2011 05:02 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I have the same thoughts as you on pyo, but I view the only logical way to go about this is killing Misder last, since he is a most likely townie or we win the game by knowing him and sinani are scum. So unfortunately that means lynch or kill you, then lynch or kill Pyo. Pyo looked down, so I opted to try to lynch Viscera and hope for the best case scenario. If you aren't scum then i will vigi Pyo tonight leaving Misder as the only other possible scum, and since he is not a likely "Cover" candidate, or even a check candidate I would assume that Sinani must be lying. I'm actually fine with that since it is grounded in reasonably sound logic (unlike 90% of the ideas/strategies proposed so far). | ||
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sinani206
United States1959 Posts
##Vote: Fishball | ||
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sinani206
United States1959 Posts
On July 04 2011 07:43 sinani206 wrote: Not killing the vig claim... ##Vote: Fishball right... ##Unvote ##Vote: Fishball | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/mbXWvl.jpg) Night 1 After a very tense day, the survivors gathered together in the common room of the bunker. Some had taken an active role in searching for the murderers, and some had taken a much more passive role, more eager to observe others than to generate conflicts themselves. It was time to decide who would be killed to preserve the peace. One by one, the people stepped forward and pronounced a name. There was some variation, but certainly a clear leader. After the first time his name was called, Fishball began chewing nervously on his lip. But as more people added their votes to his name, he nervously started to back away from the group. "Hey now, I've been contributing to this group a lot more than other people... why are you turning on me?" "Hold him!" rang a cry, and Fishball was at once held in place by several pairs of strong hands. They led him to the chamber lock at the entrance to the bunker. "We are not murderers!" cried one of the small mob. "We will simply return you to the outside world." Fishball was flung into the airlock, and the passage was sealed. The survivors crowded around the small viewport as the main entrance was opened. Immediately, they could see that something was not right with what had been their home. The light that shone from the now-opened seal had a faint blue-green tint. Fishball began sweating profusely, and turned to claw at the door. "Let me in! It was the others, they made me! Help!". His movements began to slow, and he began coughing, vomiting up red blood. As the harsh radiation ate at his very cells, the survivors rejoiced! They had found the killer! But one question nagged at the back of their minds. Who were these "others" Fishball had mentioned? He was a known schizophrenic, but he only had two known personalities. Could there possibly be more psychotics among them? The resolved to abide by their preset rules. and re-assess things in the morning. Fishball the Mafia Goon has been killed. Please send in night actions by 8:00 pm EST July 4th. + Show Spoiler + Not to make a pun of Fishball's above post, but he did inherit a shitty situation lol | ||
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Misder
United States1557 Posts
Thinking about whether vig should shoot: I'd like supersoft dead though. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On July 04 2011 05:50 Pyo wrote: I'm actually fine with that since it is grounded in reasonably sound logic (unlike 90% of the ideas/strategies proposed so far). I have decided to not analyze this game at all and approach it on a pure logic basis. On that note, I might end the game with my next post. | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
Original Message From Can a framer frame himself, and can he frame the same person constantly if he so chooses. Yes and Yes. If a framer frames himself, he returns "Town" | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On July 02 2011 01:01 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: 1. 2. sinani206 3. RebirthOfLeGenD 4. VisceraEyes/Fishball 5. Sandroba 6. Pyo 7. supersoft 8. nard 9. Misder Updated. [/quote] Currently we have players left in the game. Misder, myself, and pyo are confirmed 100% innocent. We know there is a liar in the blues. There are currently 4 remaining blues in the game. After tonight there will be 3, since I am obviously going to kill one. Which means we now have 3-2 scenario tomorrow since the mafia has to kill me. There is a 25% chance I hit scum by randomly killing a blue. With the next lynch there is a 33% chance of hitting him, once again based purely off of luck. The next cycle there is now one VT and two blues left. Now there is a straight 50% chance of victory. Statistically the mafia has a mere 4% chance of victory assuming we completely guess at who the scum is, those are odds I would take as town. I could theoretically create a list right now of the lynch order for the next two days and if the town agrees to follow it, regardless of what the mafia does, there is only a 4% chance of victory. Now let's go further into why exactly this mafia is absolutely fucked. Unfortunately we ended up with the framer left, which sucks a bit, but isn't the biggest deal, considering we mathematically dominated the mafia as mentioned above. The town has 1 DT we can be reasonably sure is both sane, and innocent. If I extrapolate this one step further, it leads to a 33% chance of victory with my vig hit, a 50% chance of victory with the lynch, and a 100% chance of victory with the following lynch. Wait you say, how could this possibly get worse? Well on top of that we have 3 DTs whose checks are all circle jerking each other, so he can't even risk not framing himself otherwise he could just get nailed as scum off the bat, since all he can do is kill the VT's, because any shooting into his blue group would immediately guarantee our victory. So on that note, I call for the mafia to resign. Statistically you have less than a 4% chance if we ignore all wifom and just randomly do everything. In fact, while I could eliminate sinani from the group because of his DT check on Misder I won't. This would introduce potential mafia Wifom into the equation, meaning a clever/lucky play on Day 1 would of made a guaranteed victory turn into a loss. I'd rather totally ignore it and go with the 96% chance of victory. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5919/lolrolgf7.jpg) sup? | ||
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Pyo
United States738 Posts
Currently we have players left in the game. Misder, myself, and pyo are confirmed 100% innocent. We know there is a liar in the blues. There are currently 4 remaining blues in the game. After tonight there will be 3, since I am obviously going to kill one. Which means we now have 3-2 scenario tomorrow since the mafia has to kill me. There is a 25% chance I hit scum by randomly killing a blue. With the next lynch there is a 33% chance of hitting him, once again based purely off of luck. The next cycle there is now one VT and two blues left. Now there is a straight 50% chance of victory. Statistically the mafia has a mere 4% chance of victory assuming we completely guess at who the scum is, those are odds I would take as town. I could theoretically create a list right now of the lynch order for the next two days and if the town agrees to follow it, regardless of what the mafia does, there is only a 4% chance of victory. Now let's go further into why exactly this mafia is absolutely fucked. Unfortunately we ended up with the framer left, which sucks a bit, but isn't the biggest deal, considering we mathematically dominated the mafia as mentioned above. The town has 1 DT we can be reasonably sure is both sane, and innocent. If I extrapolate this one step further, it leads to a 33% chance of victory with my vig hit, a 50% chance of victory with the lynch, and a 100% chance of victory with the following lynch. Wait you say, how could this possibly get worse? Well on top of that we have 3 DTs whose checks are all circle jerking each other, so he can't even risk not framing himself otherwise he could just get nailed as scum off the bat, since all he can do is kill the VT's, because any shooting into his blue group would immediately guarantee our victory. So on that note, I call for the mafia to resign. Statistically you have less than a 4% chance if we ignore all wifom and just randomly do everything. In fact, while I could eliminate sinani from the group because of his DT check on Misder I won't. This would introduce potential mafia Wifom into the equation, meaning a clever/lucky play on Day 1 would of made a guaranteed victory turn into a loss. I'd rather totally ignore it and go with the 96% chance of victory.[/QUOTE] 4% chance is still greater than 0%. However, depending on how DT's check each other tonight, it could become game over. I mean, if I were mafia, I would still play it out and try to pull something clever out of my butt, so I'll encourage the remaining mafia to go for it. For the sake of ending the game sooner, I would encourage the DT's to check in such a way that would best determine your sanity. As for the vigi kill, I would recommend either nard or sinani since they were the second two to claim their checks. Mafia would have been foolish to claim right away without hearing some of the other claims or he'd risk outting himself right at the get go. | ||
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Pyo
United States738 Posts
The part that was actually me talking was the following: 4% chance is still greater than 0%. However, depending on how DT's check each other tonight, it could become game over. I mean, if I were mafia, I would still play it out and try to pull something clever out of my butt, so I'll encourage the remaining mafia to go for it. For the sake of ending the game sooner, I would encourage the DT's to check in such a way that would best determine your sanity. As for the vigi kill, I would recommend either nard or sinani since they were the second two to claim their checks. Mafia would have been foolish to claim right away without hearing some of the other claims or he'd risk outting himself right at the get go. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On July 04 2011 12:21 Pyo wrote: Damn you RoL and your bad formatting which messed up my post's formatting... The part that was actually me talking was the following: 4% chance is still greater than 0%. However, depending on how DT's check each other tonight, it could become game over. I mean, if I were mafia, I would still play it out and try to pull something clever out of my butt, so I'll encourage the remaining mafia to go for it. For the sake of ending the game sooner, I would encourage the DT's to check in such a way that would best determine your sanity. As for the vigi kill, I would recommend either nard or sinani since they were the second two to claim their checks. Mafia would have been foolish to claim right away without hearing some of the other claims or he'd risk outting himself right at the get go. I will do whatever I want. Quiet you! Also that is the most generic advice I have ever read. | ||
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