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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 25 2013 01:31 GMT
#1741
I want to double lynch Onegu and JJD and I want to vig chezinu......

JJD has no scumreads.... and is throwing away a vote on a replacement slot...
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
November 25 2013 01:33 GMT
#1742
On November 25 2013 10:31 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 10:03 Aquanim wrote:
I've had a thought and I'd like to hear your opinions on this subject.

+ Show Spoiler +

Is it truly plausible that NONE of the initial five on Rayn (Mocsta, Thrawn, myself, Bereft and JJD) were scum? Not so much in the sense of "could a townie want to lynch Rayn" (because clearly we did) but more in the sense of "would scum be comfortable with none of them on the currently going wagon".

I wanted to believe this was plausible because I don't like Rayn. But in hindsight I'm beginning to suspect it's not, and since I have a clear town read on everyone bar JJD on that list...


@Aquanim
I honestly wouldn't consider this a tell. This line of thinking just requires too many assumptions to make analysis on. Even naming any 3 players in this game town I could probably only do with 70% confidence.

I suppose that's fair from your perspective. I'm very, very sure about Mocsta, Thrawn and Bereft, personally.


Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 10:03 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On November 25 2013 08:31 thrawn2112 wrote:
Speaking of JJD's agenda, what is it? What has he done during D2? He has thrown suspicion on you and mocsta but he hasn't pushed either of those lynches.

Yeah, my day 2 has not been good. I've already defended my weekend activity. But it's not just that. I don't like ANY of the cases I've seen. You say I've thrown suspicion on cora and and mocsta but haven't pushed the cases. I wasn't intending to throw suspicion, I was just trying to find scum because I don't have many scumreads right now.

Which is why I want to vote for the Jampi or Rean slot. Preferably Rean. I don't have all that much on them but I already posted my case on Rean. We were all ready to vote him out yesterday when rayn blew up. Has anything changed?

##Vote: Alakaslam


This thought process does not seem townie to me. He didn't like any of the cases in the thread, so therefore lynch a lurker? I dunno. I think the natural townie response when you don't like any of the current cases is to go find scum yourself. There is plenty to go on. Am I really asking too much for him to have one good scumread?

This is why I want to see exactly why he doesn't "like ANY of the cases" he's seen.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 25 2013 01:34 GMT
#1743
Ok

Can anyone please look at the questions I proposed like one or two posts ago about jjd

I actually don't have enough time to filter dive so can't verify.


If those answers are no and yes, I will support a consolidated vote on JJD
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
November 25 2013 01:36 GMT
#1744
On November 25 2013 10:34 Mocsta wrote:
Ok

Can anyone please look at the questions I proposed like one or two posts ago about jjd

I actually don't have enough time to filter dive so can't verify.


If those answers are no and yes, I will support a consolidated vote on JJD

ok I'll get on it
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 25 2013 01:36 GMT
#1745
On November 25 2013 10:31 sciberbia wrote:

This thought process does not seem townie to me. He didn't like any of the cases in the thread, so therefore lynch a lurker? I dunno. I think the natural townie response when you don't like any of the current cases is to go find scum yourself. There is plenty to go on. Am I really asking too much for him to have one good scumread?


To add to this it makes sense that he'd vote for mocsta, who he has spent time posting about this cycle. I am not suggesting that they are both scum but I am suggesting that it's weird that he doesn't want to join a wagon (however unlikely it is to succeed) over joining a wagon that definitely will not succeed. He's throwing away his vote.

##vote: JarJarDrinks

JarJar what is your read on mocsta?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 25 2013 01:37 GMT
#1746
On November 25 2013 10:34 Mocsta wrote:
Ok

Can anyone please look at the questions I proposed like one or two posts ago about jjd

I actually don't have enough time to filter dive so can't verify.


If those answers are no and yes, I will support a consolidated vote on JJD


he just claimed that when he was talking to/at you and corazon earlier this cycle he wasn't pushing for your lynches because he didn't really have reads, but was trying to get them. he just now voted alakaslam.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
November 25 2013 01:38 GMT
#1747
@Mocsta
To answer your questions, JJD by his own admission doesn't really have any scumreads and hasn't really been pushing anything. He wants us to lynch a lurker for lack of a lynch he actually likes.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 25 2013 01:39 GMT
#1748
On November 25 2013 07:16 cDgCorazon wrote:
While I think it is a great case Onegu (and your recent activity has earned my unvote), I'm worried that killing Mocsta will put the thread to a screeching halt like it has been for most of D2. Look how inactive the thread has been with Mocsta's limited time to play this weekend.

In my opinion, Mocsta is one of those players who will either:

a)get killed in the first 2-3 nights
or
b)be lynched due to his behavior

A town Mocsta is a really good asset for town. Scum will be looking to nightkill him ASAP and if they don't do that, then there is a good chance he is one of them.

I'm not disagreeing with you because of my read on your or your points in the case- I just disagree with the principle of lynching Mocsta right now.

Is there anyone outside of Mocsta/Bereft you would be ok with lynching?



My son cried so I woke up read the thread saw this and that cora basicly scum claimed here, then it goes from it was a great case, to it was a bad case just vote onegu.

And since you guys obv didnt read my case, maybe it is to long and you thought you would just get the jist of it let me tl;dr it for you fools.

Mocsta hasnt made a real case all game, his reads jump around all game without any reason given or BS.

NOW LOOK AT HIS REASON TO WANT TO LYNCH JAMP. Because jamp tunneled onto Aqua, but when rayn says that mocsta gives a meta reason that is town for jamp.

Uses the words scumslip for cora and scib, and scum claim for me. Then calls out HF for seeing scum slips.

Also when I make my notes, if its true he can lynch bereft that cycle, doesnt check when he thinks he is out of time, says if I am wrong its not malicious, to he leaves out the most important piece and Im scum for trying to make bereft look bad.

Is scum scum scum on rayn, then right before lynch switches to its a policy vote, then after lynch lies and says he didnt have rayn as scum but was afraid rayn wouldnt get a lynch through.
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 25 2013 01:39 GMT
#1749
On November 25 2013 10:38 sciberbia wrote:
@Mocsta
To answer your questions, JJD by his own admission doesn't really have any scumreads and hasn't really been pushing anything. He wants us to lynch a lurker for lack of a lynch he actually likes.


to be fair he *did* like the rean lynch so this could be an extension of that.. but it's still a very unhelpful vote
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 25 2013 01:40 GMT
#1750
If I "scum claimed" as I have been attested to do so about 15 times this game, why aren't you voting for me?
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 25 2013 01:40 GMT
#1751
Thanks guys for the feedback.
I feel as frantic with the rayyn lynch.

Whereas two cycles in a row he diesnt care.

Why is it that it's all the same people talking at this pivotal time.

I'm confident we are all town, and scum are letting us in fight with each other.

Yes, wagon of justice.

##vote: jarjardrinks

JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
November 25 2013 01:41 GMT
#1752
On November 25 2013 10:31 sciberbia wrote:
This thought process does not seem townie to me. He didn't like any of the cases in the thread, so therefore lynch a lurker? I dunno. I think the natural townie response when you don't like any of the current cases is to go find scum yourself.
Unless scum is all lurkers. I think it's a totally natural thought process that if all the active players are reading town to me that I'd want to lynch one of the lurkers.

And sorry but I just don't have the time to commit on the weekends. I don't really want to say that if you don't lynch me today then I'll be plenty active tomorrow because I know it sounds scummy but it's true. When I'm @ work is when I can commit alot of time.
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 25 2013 01:42 GMT
#1753
How many do we have on JJD/Onegu?
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Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
November 25 2013 01:43 GMT
#1754
On November 25 2013 09:52 Mocsta wrote:
Regarding jarjar
Last night I didn't read his day2

Does anyone know what his top scum reads are and why?

Well he wants to lynch the Rean slot for the same reasons as yesterday. No consideration of the fact that with a replacement we may be able to read the slot better. Still waiting on his reasons why he doesn't want to lynch Onegu or any of the other wagons going today.

Answer: We know who he wants to lynch but don't have any reasons which indicate he's actually thinking about it.


Has he actually pushed anything, or has just gotten into dialogue with holyflare about claiming?

Things JJD has talked about today:
- holyflare claim
- picked up some point I raised earlier about something corazon said, calls it a scumslip. I'd sketched this in already and then dropped it, no evidence of original thought from JJD here
- defends himself to thrawn; doesn't say much useful but thrawn's case was not really the kind of thing which can be argued against in the first place (not because it's good, just because it's mostly interpretation and feelings)
- a bit of suspicion thrown at Mocsta re. Mocsta's suspicions of him
- defending himself now

Answer: no real pushing.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 25 2013 01:44 GMT
#1755
You all better vote me or mocsta.

And when you lynch me actually read the fucking case on mocsta, I stayed up until 5am writeing that thing and all of you dont even read it.

Also cora when he links shit for slam to read he didnt even link my mocsta case.

And I didnt cherrypick anything, read the damn case, then read mocsta filter and tell me what relevant info I left out.

Back to sleep

##lawlaiddown
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Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
November 25 2013 01:44 GMT
#1756
no longer interested in voting onegu today, need to think longer about whether he's sincere

##Unvote
##Vote: JarJarDrinks
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 25 2013 01:45 GMT
#1757
On November 25 2013 10:40 cDgCorazon wrote:
If I "scum claimed" as I have been attested to do so about 15 times this game, why aren't you voting for me?



After mocsta your next dont worry.
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Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
November 25 2013 01:45 GMT
#1758
EBWOP: because my gut says this is sincerity.

+ Show Spoiler +
Onegu's fooled me before though. Which is why I need to think some more.
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 25 2013 01:46 GMT
#1759
Fine. Although Onegu just said I "scum slipped" and then says Mocsta is scum for calling out "scum slips", I'll consolidate.
##unvote:
##Vote: JJD


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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 25 2013 01:46 GMT
#1760
Well I am going to have to leave, I do hope to be more useful tomorrow. Please don't make me lose it!... I don't mind criticism however will not see till tomorrow.

##Vote: Jar Jar Drinks
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