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Scamp
United States1086 Posts
On January 16 2012 13:24 GGQ wrote: Do you honestly believe that someone who is wrong about one lynch should just stop trying? Trying? No. Playing the way WBG is playing? Yes. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On January 16 2012 13:30 Toadesstern wrote: I already mentioned that issue and I don't think it is one. What's the reason you wanted to show us the logs now instead of, you know, when we asked you like 24 hours ago? Because day just ended and my masoning with them is now done? I have given the logs and the names of who I mason'd and who mason'd me. The information within is still readable and usable should town desire to use it. The fact that is it is 24 hours after you would like may be annoying to you but it is still here. | ||
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evantrees
Canada497 Posts
Pretty please do what was asked of the hydras in Election and quote that with the hydra for filtering purposes (they were also asked to edit and remove the original but leave that up to the mods), you said you don't want people missing it, posting on the wrong account is a good way to help achieve that. On January 16 2012 12:10 Incognito wrote: evantrees I agree with Foolishness that evantrees is mafia. His first post is so incoherent it begs to be skipped, but this post in particular is bad: Posting a useless list without any opinion? Check. Even worse is that he doesn't even verify that the information is correct, and states that what he wrote is probably useless. This is apathy at its finest. Furthermore, evantrees is lurking hard core. We know he's reading the thread, as he posts a null comment on Palmar's flip before randomly requesting that repalcements are relfected in the OP. The argument that evantrees is just a bored townie doesn't hold here. Bored townies don't ask the mods to indicate replacements in the OP. evantrees is completely apathetic and pretends to contribute to the town when he in fact is not. . got halfway through started expecting to see my name show up given have shown about the same level usefulness as my first game but still, ah well. but this post It's the second post why not say it? Posting a useless list without any opinion? posted a response to a question no on answered. Probably useless given the time the question was asked however posted bit over 2 hours later. Even worse is that he doesn't even verify that the information is correct. I'm sorry trusting my memory to answer a simple question when I just finished reading through a large chuck of the thread bugs you, then I volunteered a little more information about who they said they pmed. apathetic no did get a bit annoyed reading through that mess two days in a row. The argument that evantrees is just a bored townie doesn't hold here. Bored townies don't ask the mods to indicate replacements in the OP. What about annoyed lurkers who have been reading the thread? Also what prompted that request was me wondering who glurio replaced, turns out it was d3_crescentia and boo filter list gone from OP. On January 15 2012 02:56 glurio wrote: Hey I'm the replacement and plan to be active, sadly something came up for tonight, so I can't read up on what happened so far. I'll do it tomorrow and post my thoughts as soon as I'm done, I do have to vote though. So I will vote for whoever has the most votes right now. On January 14 2012 22:08 flamewheel wrote: glurio is replacing d3_crescentia. Now back to those questions I was trying to answer but first food. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On January 16 2012 12:45 Scamp wrote: I was expecting a rash of modkills. I'm highly disappointed. Though the death of Ciryandor is nice. Not really sure why WBG thinks he should still be talking right now. lol you've done a lot too this game, eh? I might have been wrong but I'm not as useless as you are. | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On January 16 2012 12:36 GGQ wrote: lynch protact or cyber_cheese yo Based on? | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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Canada4732 Posts
I'm going to take a sleep and write up my main suspects thusfar when I have a slow period at work. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
And now I sleep. Hopefully town is a merciful town and we won't be at 100 pages when I wake up. | ||
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
But yeah, I can confirm he did target me. However, I have no idea why. May I ask why? | ||
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evantrees
Canada497 Posts
Rereading some of this sad didn't get this posted preday 2 post, oh well Flicky's bayonetta run a bit too distracting. What are your thoughts on: (cyber_cheese was asking these) Palmars lynch/WBG, is WBG scummy? on the list of people a little suspicious of, was in the consider lynching palmer day 2 camp. Palmars lynch/BC choosing him, did you agree with this? Damned Dissapointed at the palmer lynch happening, don't agree with BC choosing him. BM/BC being the elected pair? Didn't vote for BM due to not being nearly as convinced of sandro's scumminess as some people at the moment I like him as sheriff. Who would you look into lynching next and why? unsure Double Lynch tomorrow? To soon unless we come up with some damned good candidates for lynch. Rereading description sure lets try for a day 3 double lynch should probably wait till day 5 at least for the second one though so we can get information from the first then decide when we want to use the second. Protac and opz. Sandro/zeks/Lanaia interesting choices supersoft. Protac a little suspicious of, one of the 3 main candidates why the hell wouldn't I be. for reference bit more suspicious of BC due to the mason bit and then he goes and just lynches palmer instead of using any of the information the discussion was supposed to generate. ~OpZ~ leaning town Sandro Wasn't convinced of his scumminess enough to vote for BM's lynch him platform. Also yay humor. Zeks neutral read on him, I suppose it depends on your opinion on some support for sandro and BC being in his few posts. Lanaia nothing swaying me much either way. | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
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Scamp
United States1086 Posts
On January 16 2012 13:55 wherebugsgo wrote: lol you've done a lot too this game, eh? I might have been wrong but I'm not as useless as you are. This is not a proper response and you know it. You also know better. Besides, it was your own words that suggest that people won't want to listen to you. What changed your mind? As for the double-lynch people are discussing right now, I don't think it's a good idea to use it right now. We're certainly going to want to use it in the future, but as of right now I don't see how it's necessary. The town is in a good spot right now. We have one scum down and five townies down. While technically that's a losing ratio it's also way better than what town is expected to be at at this point. On top of that we've only lost a mason and a vigilante, so in terms of power roles we're also doing very well. Thus, we shouldn't be in any hurry to use the double-lynches so quickly. The later we use the double-lynches the better, because we'll have more information to go on at that point. Right now we lack solid leadership and information, and there's no guarantee that we'll have solid leads to go on by day three. Of course, there's never any guarantee that we'll have solid leads later in the game too. However, it is certainly true that it is much more likely to have better leads as the game goes on. Combine that with the fact that, again, the town is in a good spot right now and that means there's no reason to rush the double-lynch. | ||
p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
1. kingjames01 - neutral to me, but makes very good points and I'm leaning him as town, but not enough to consider him town yet. 2. Cwave - neutral, but the only significant post he makes is just a restatement of the thread. I know, replacing in can be hard, but... 4. Slardar - neutral, focussed solely on the election. One post in particular really bothers me. On January 16 2012 10:48 Slardar wrote: I'm still awaiting some analysis and opinions from BC our "dear leader" here. As for BM who posted a list, in general I can't say I advocate the "Lynch all veterans" mentality this early in the game without some definitive clues. I'd rather take a shot in the dark than coin-flip on a known experienced player. It feels really bad to me to prefer taking a shot in the dark than trying to scumhunt, even if the person we find is a veteran. No one said "lynch all the veterans" ever so I'm not entirely sure where he got that that is a prevalent mentality in this game thus far. 5. risk.nuke - His campaign basis bothered me. "Always a townie," eh? Right now, I'm null on him. He's active and willing, which is probably good, but is he overeager? If he is overeager, that may be an issue. His post saying "Townies read this" also bothered me as it was a bit contradictory with his play. 7. Cyber_Cheese - I believe he is mafia. Very poor mayoral campaign. Why bother when your main platform initially is how bad you are as scum? Also, you want to lynch someone based on his formatting. That's kind of strange, I feel. 8. Jayjay54 - I have no idea what to say about him. I can't read him worth a damn. Neutral. 10. Munk-E - Three posts in the whole game. He is neutral, but what he's said does not lead me to believe he is town. In that case, though, it is gut. 11. EchelonTee - neutral 12. Adam4167 - neutral 17. ~OpZ~ - I'm neutral-leaning-scum, but that's not really anything more than gut right now. Stats say that probably one of the masons is scum, correct? 19. BrownBear - neutral 22. rgTheSchworz - Leaning scum because of the things he's said. This is gut. 24. Toadesstern - I really cannot read him. 26. glurio - Neutral as we haven't really seen enough to get a good read yet. 30. blahz0r - The case on him is one I really like. I agree that he is probably mafia. 31. VisceraEyes - I really have no idea at this point. He could very well do either way. 32. GGQ - He really hasn't said much at all yet. 33. sandroba - I very much want to think sandro is town, but right now, I can't say I do. I think I'm being led by other people's posts about him in that way, but reading the skype logs makes me feel a bit better about him. 35. zeks - Neutral 37. igabod - Neutral, hasn't really said anything constructive whatsoever imho. 39. hiro protagonist - Straight up null read from him because he's got one post and Erandorr wasn't really much help iirc. 42. evantrees - Neutral on him. 43. Chaosquo - Too little to really read anything. 45. Macpo - cases seem strong, leaning scum. 46. rtgICEMAN - I've felt he's scum for a while. I'm not really sure what else I can say 47. Maxella - Tried to find a filter for this person, but I couldn't even find a post or the person's profile. :/ Extremely neutral. 49. Scamp - I'm neutral-leaning-scum on this guy. On January 16 2012 12:45 Scamp wrote: I was expecting a rash of modkills. I'm highly disappointed. Though the death of Ciryandor is nice. Not really sure why WBG thinks he should still be talking right now. I don't like that he was expecting it and was highly disappointed in it. Proportionately, it was more likely to see a lot of town in there. Him saying that ciry's death was nice felt a bit... unnatural. Also, is that bitterness I see towards WBG? Care to reiterate what you mean by the last line, scamp? How is he playing that is so bad to you? 50. Nisani201 - neutral-leaning-town. I'd be willing to lynch anyone who I've tagged as mafia in this post. I am unsure if I'm fine with a DL at the moment. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
Also, it appears I've been mixing up rtgICEMAN and rgTheSchworz. However, that's okay because they both feel the same to me anyhow. | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On January 16 2012 16:11 Lanaia wrote: 7. Cyber_Cheese - I believe he is mafia. Very poor mayoral campaign. Why bother when your main platform initially is how bad you are as scum? Also, you want to lynch someone based on his formatting. That's kind of strange, I feel. The formatting looks like its copy pasted from a quicktopic, and he refuses to explain it. | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
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blahz0r
3030 Posts
Kenpachi, I don't know who you are, feel free to go into depth about why you think I'm mafia. kingjames01, from your last few posts, it looks like you're hopping around trying to move the discussion in all sorts of directions. I want to refer to BloodyC0bbler's post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716¤tpage=84#1661 . You sound like Mafia to me or some stupid townie just out there pointing fingers. I'd like to also go back to this: On January 16 2012 12:09 kingjames01 wrote: Crap, pressed Enter accidentally. blahz0r, you are attempting to justify your choice for tomorrow's lynch. Since, you as mafia, NEED AN EXCUSE to vote, you just dug around looking for someone, anyone, to cast suspicion on. You're also not doing it very convincingly. mafia: blahz0r I am not justifying anything. Stop putting words in my mouth. Lanaia: Is that it? You like the case on me, cool. All you provided is a list, a list by which you think who is who. Anyone can do that. Noting you down just in case people refer back to this post if I die. I guarantee I am town. If I die, I want everyone to look back on these guys. | ||
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Scamp
United States1086 Posts
On January 16 2012 16:11 Lanaia wrote: 49. Scamp - I'm neutral-leaning-scum on this guy. I don't like that he was expecting it and was highly disappointed in it. Proportionately, it was more likely to see a lot of town in there. Him saying that ciry's death was nice felt a bit... unnatural. Also, is that bitterness I see towards WBG? Care to reiterate what you mean by the last line, scamp? How is he playing that is so bad to you? Were you not expecting a bunch of modkills? I thought that everyone was expecting them. And yes I have bitterness toward WBG. I don't like the way he plays. As for clarifying the last line, how about I let WBG do it himself. On January 15 2012 16:48 wherebugsgo wrote: the problem for me now, of course, is that no one is going to listen to me. And later... On January 16 2012 09:26 wherebugsgo wrote: The thing about the Palmar flip is that it makes people like zeks, opz, and several others look bad. Lanaia looks bad as well; she has not commented on anything concrete and so far has had no scum reads. It looks rather similar to her play from XLVII. He neglects to mention himself in all of this. I'm not ready to make a full-blown case out of this but if you look at WBG's post history it would make a lot of sense if both he and BC are scum. | ||
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