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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
August 26 2011 13:24 GMT
#1641
Well, that push would have succeeded if jangbi choked right there. Jangbi actually lost the engagement but he was able to repel the push overall by reinforcing his battered nat.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
KasPra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Estonia983 Posts
August 26 2011 13:24 GMT
#1642
Jangbi VS Fantasy finals pls. 3:

If that is even possible.
Ermac
Profile Joined June 2011
336 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-26 13:28:29
August 26 2011 13:24 GMT
#1643
Ok so to summarize this game:

P-favored Map(tailored build from JangBi?)
Flash too passive
Good scouting on JangBi's part
=> calculated risk expanding like a madman(still somewhat of a gamble I think!?!?)
Failed Recall into Flash's main somewhere in between
4th very late for Flash(JangBi was already 7base vs 3base when Flash pushed)
200/200 push
Stellar micro from Flash
Decent storms from JangBi
7base toss(or even 8 in the end?) proved to be just too much
"Blind aggressiveness would destroy the attack itself, not the defense." - Carl von Clausewitz
popzags
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland604 Posts
August 26 2011 13:24 GMT
#1644
On August 26 2011 22:22 Denzil wrote:
What's Flash's best match up?

Dunno, but people's worst matchup is against (T)Flash.
What what the the fuck fuck? That blew my mind so much, I doubled every word in the phrase 'What the fuck' to get: 'What what the the fuck fuck my what the the fuck fucking what did the drop dropship medivac where in the what in the hell?' - Day[9]
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
August 26 2011 13:24 GMT
#1645
On August 26 2011 22:22 Vinnesta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 22:21 ShadeR wrote:
On August 26 2011 22:19 NicksonReyes wrote:
GG! The only reason why Flash loses to Ps like Best is because he's too passive :/.

Flash played the same way vs Best didn't he? Opting for a later stronger push. In their last game.


But the timing was excellent in his game against Best. For this game, he just let Jangbi sit around on 7 bases and mass gateways, without any aggression or counter-macro.

I felt rather than Flash's timing it was Best's which determined the game. Best stood around for a while at 200 doing nothing while flash slowly hit 200 as well. Whereas Jangbi struck as soon as he peaked. But anyways enough about that game =/
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2227 Posts
August 26 2011 13:24 GMT
#1646
i really don't want soo vs. jangbi in Ro4, the hell, SoO kid could cheat himself to osl finals...
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
August 26 2011 13:25 GMT
#1647
On August 26 2011 22:22 Klaca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 22:19 NicksonReyes wrote:
GG! The only reason why Flash loses to Ps like Best is because he's too passive :/.
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 22:19 Ermac wrote:
On August 26 2011 22:18 Motivate wrote:
On August 26 2011 22:18 Ermac wrote:
Someone PLEASE explain this game to me!

How did JangBi get away with so many bases!?!?!?

cos flash was playing too passive


Yes, obviously. But how could he expect Flash to be so passive? He took a huge gamble, right?
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 22:19 shadymmj wrote:
nice game. seems like flash had no real plan there, very different from the way he played vs best.
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 22:20 Holgerius wrote:
Flash played too passively. He turtled, didn't harass at all and didn't expand very aggressively either (the 4th was really late IMO).




Nothing passive about it. Its how the current TvP works. Thats the most efficient TvP build known to man. To take 4 bases, then push with 200/200 timing to crush protoss. And yes, flash used the exact same build against best.


And jangbi has found a way to counter it, thus revolutionizing the matchup.

No, that was far from the same build as vs Best.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
August 26 2011 13:25 GMT
#1648
On August 26 2011 22:24 KasPra wrote:
Jangbi VS Fantasy finals pls. 3:

If that is even possible.


lol somewhere,somewhere yellow would be smiling.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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KaZzZz
Profile Joined November 2010
France42 Posts
August 26 2011 13:25 GMT
#1649
JangBi didn't revolutionize anything, it's just the map come on...
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
August 26 2011 13:25 GMT
#1650
JANGBI FIGHTING!!!!!!!
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
August 26 2011 13:25 GMT
#1651
gladiator is pretty good for pvt. interesting game coming up
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
August 26 2011 13:25 GMT
#1652
On August 26 2011 22:21 Cpadolf wrote:
You know, when you see Janbi play a game like this, it's hard to fathom just how he managed to be so fucking bad for so fucking long during his slump.

Absolutely. I always thought he is the most talented protoss besides Kal and Bisu. How he got so bad is beyond me but this game showed why his pvt was once the best in the world
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
August 26 2011 13:25 GMT
#1653
Jangbi 7
Flash 11

i'm using my one time here
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
August 26 2011 13:25 GMT
#1654
gogogogogo jangbi!
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Vuk_91
Profile Joined September 2010
Serbia1690 Posts
August 26 2011 13:25 GMT
#1655
On August 26 2011 22:23 corumjhaelen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 22:23 nomatch353 wrote:
On August 26 2011 22:22 Denzil wrote:
What's Flash's best match up?


Tvz of course

TvT of course !

I still think the only reason why he doesn`t have best stats in TvZ is Jaedong,so I would still have to say TvZ is his best matchup.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
August 26 2011 13:25 GMT
#1656
On August 26 2011 22:24 Ermac wrote:
Ok so to summarize this game:

P-favored Map
Flash too passive
Good scouting on JangBi's part
=> calculated risk expanding like a madman(still somewhat of a gamble I think!?!?)
4th very late for Flash(JangBi was already 7base vs 3base when Flash pushed)
200/200 push
Stellar micro from Flash
Decent storms from JangBi
7base toss(or even 8 in the end?) proved to be just too much


i think the one thing this leaves out is that jangbi's plan was actually very specifically good on this map. you also left out a pretty fail recall by jangbi
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
August 26 2011 13:25 GMT
#1657
WTF LOL
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
August 26 2011 13:25 GMT
#1658
GO FLASH! :D

Show me how to play!
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
August 26 2011 13:25 GMT
#1659
JANGBI HWAITINGGG!!!
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
BloodDrunK
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bangladesh2767 Posts
August 26 2011 13:25 GMT
#1660
Flash @ 11
Jangbi @ 7
You have the power to create your own destiny.
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