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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
April 02 2009 00:47 GMT
#1601
I guess I'll save you the hassle by not using my second vote
靈魂交響曲
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
April 02 2009 00:55 GMT
#1602
On April 02 2009 07:29 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2009 07:15 Rice wrote:
I vote for masterofchaos
I vote for ahswtini


same for me

You can't vote like that lol but I bet you know that
doesn't matter I guess
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
April 02 2009 01:52 GMT
#1603
Ahswtini Posting Behavior Evidence:

Day/Night One:

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On March 18 2009 05:36 ahswtini wrote:
Can mafia target their own this game?

This is when plan were being discussed and everyone was poking holes everywhere. This is all ahswtini ever had to say about any of those long pages of arguments. Mafia are the ones who should be most concerned about what mafia can or cannot do.

On March 20 2009 02:39 ahswtini wrote:
LOL nice lynch, still reading up

Though it is not a tell on it’s own it is always more likely for mafia members to make comments like this about deaths that happen throughout the game. Examples of this would be things like ‘Oh, sucks we lost a Medic’ or “Yes, we got one of the Mafia’ and other things like that. To support my claim, already known Mafia Mandalor also made a good lynch post about RebirthofLegend on the First day. They do this to try to appear that they are pro-town, but an actual town member should not need to do this to appear as such. Also on the first lynch, which was reported as random, it would be more common for other to chime in with a nice job sort of post, but as you will see, most of those people do not continue these sorts of posts as the lynches go by, but ahswtini does.

On March 21 2009 04:01 ahswtini wrote:
Morning should be coming soon, I'm pretty lost as to all this vigilante discussion, going to reread everything :S

As stated in the thread already, mafia are the ones most likely to be impatient as it gets close to morning… they want to see which roles they killed.


Day/Night Two and Beyond:

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On March 21 2009 07:37 ahswtini wrote:
What do you mean by 'very opposite their normal abilities'?

This was in regards to some discussion being brought up about mafia activity based upon the first Mafia lynch’s perceived activity in the thread as an observer at the time. He is again curious about the mafia’s abilities/behavior. I think he is looking to get guidance on how he should act to not be seen in the same camp as his dead comrade.

On March 21 2009 20:37 ahswtini wrote:
We've really got nothing else to go on so far The only other thing I have is..
Show nested quote +
Some articles fell from his pocket, torn ticket stubs, old popcorn, a dried up white flower; just trash he had picked up from the ground

are all pretty old things. Of course, that points to SoG, so I have big doubts.

Oh, and also
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It seemed like it was one of the theater attendants he saw on the way in but why would they hit him?

The only real link I can find to theatre is Bockit's rank icon. Nothing solid at all to go on, but I'm still analysing

Seems like a stretch to me in his clue analysis, trying to pick off people who are legitimate threats to Mafia. Hopefully most people realize by now that these are not clues for me and that I am assured to be innocent by now.

On March 21 2009 20:55 ahswtini wrote:
Good find!

This is mostly just a meaningless post that is feigning being supportive. This was also mentioned already and shortly after the post in exhibit here.

On March 22 2009 10:47 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 10:32 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Oh one more idea, "Ver's major arteries were stabbed into and they left him there to bleed out and die."

The pulmonary artery is based at the infundibulum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conus_arteriosus

Good find!

Another “good find” post.

On March 23 2009 02:22 ahswtini wrote:
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Someone who appears pathetic at fighting could be a semi-old-guy, or a LeperKahn (would you expect a leprechaun to appear skilled at fighting)? Those are both weak though.

MrBabyHands would also fit with this clue

This is another way to try and put suspicion on someone who is now perceived as a threat to the mafia (and who might have just been perceived as crazy by some beforehand). He is accusing a lot of the figureheads who have been doing most of the work in scouring the town of mafia.

On March 24 2009 05:01 ahswtini wrote:
Good lynch guys

As for rice, very nicely summed up there. I'm not sure if it's worth a vigi hit on him (we only have 2 left?) so a cluecheck followed by a lynch is the best course of action imo.

Another ‘Good lynch” post. This was explained as being suspicious by me earlier. We knew the lynch was going to be good… no need to comment on it really.

Some analysis of Ahswtini by BloodyC0bbler a few game-days ago + Show Spoiler +
On March 24 2009 17:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
As for Pika Chu's killer on quick look at the fusion blog i noticed
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=ahswtini

Posting the rice analysis there, which to my knowledge has been pushed back a bit, yet he only wanted it mentioned there, as opposed to all the other analysis done.

He has also spent the game being "active" where in he will post as he should, but adds no inherent content to them, merely congrats, or the like. He then tried to convince a vig to use their hit on rice or if nothing else, we lynch him.

We have had better targets than rice, yet he wont get off it, seems odd to not continue with the town.

ALso, if you look in his profile picture, It is an antenna like object with lightning coming from it. and the current could fuck with a phones harddrive. It however also could work with the trident being the weapon of choice in this case as well, the pole goes up, and then has 4 charges breaking off, one of which goes straight down the pole base however, seemingly giving the pole 3 points of electricity, making it look like a trident.


On March 25 2009 03:44 ahswtini wrote:
If you read back, the last time I mentioned Rice was right after redtooth's analysis of him. That's it, I'm hardly going against the town here. Also note that I warned against a vigilante hit on him. There are now much better suspects with the Day 3 clues, and I haven't mentioned Rice again.

This was ahswtini’s response to the above.


On March 27 2009 02:49 ahswtini wrote:
Sweetass lynches :D

I know I’ve seen this before from him.


None of his posts seems to be extremely helpful to the town. T is a lot of supporting other people and piggybacking off what others do, aka trying to blend in. In addition to this as being suspicious on its own, but not entirely incriminating, many of his posts are suspicious actions in themselves.

Coming soon: Ahswtini’s voting history and why it further makes him a mafia suspect.
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semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
April 02 2009 03:03 GMT
#1604
Day One Voting

Before you rabidly click on that first spoiler, let me make a statement. Most mafia will generally not be at the beginning of the bandwagon, because this will make them stand out more. They are more likely to vote when the votes are about three fifths of the way there, after a bandwagon has been established but before they are the last ones to the party. If we look at the mafia we have already caught we find that this generally hold true (go ahead and research other mafia games for this trend as well, you’ll find it to be rather common among less experience players who are playing as mafia).

In addition to this, a lot of newer mafia players will tend to follow what others do. This makes it seem as if they were not the ones to suggest it, that they just went along with everything and can easily redirect and blame that comes their way on the guy they were following.

In a similar vein, many newer mafia members will also follow what the other mafia members are doing. After all, they are on the same team so why shouldn’t they work together. Unfortunately this subtle way of working together, even among large groups like this one, tends to stick out to those who are looking for it.

REMEMBER, none of these are surefire ways to catch a mafia, but when a lot of them stack together it often is more than just coincidence, but a behavior result of a player who is playing a mafia role.

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BloodyC0bbler
Qatol (Bodyguard) (3-17, 12:23)
Fishball (Vigilante) (3-17, 12:51)
Chaoser (3-17, 13:03)
Jyvblamo (3-17, 13:28)
Ver (Vigilante) (3-17, 17:56) (Retracted 3-19, 03:59)
Scaramanga (3-17, 22:44)
Pyrrhuloxia (3-18, 03:44)
Zeks (3-18, 08:28)
Tricode (3-18, 09:41)
CynanMachae (3-18, 10:00) (Retracted 3-18, 12:53)
3 Lions (3-18, 10:17)
Ahswtini (3-19, 01:35)
Scooter (3-19, 04:25)
MasterOfChaos (3-19 06:08)
Ra.Xor.2 (3-19, 06:29)
LeperKhan (3-19, 07:08)

Semioldguy
Phrujbaz (3-17, 19:55)
0cz3c (3-18, 00:39)
Mista (3-18, 00:44)
Pika Chu (3-18, 01:18)
BWdero (3-18, 07:51) (Retracted 3-19, 08:39)
TruthBringer (3-18, 09:03)
Caller (3-18, 09:57) (Retracted 3-19, 06:42)
TranceStorm (3-18, 10:31)
Dreamflower (3-18, 12:32)
CynanMachae (3-18, 12:53)
ZaplinG (3-19, 04:28)
JeeJee (3-19, 04:44)
LucasWoJ (3-19, 05:33)
Redtooth (3-19, 09:55)
Ydg (3-19, 11:17)
MrBabyHands (3-19, 11:25)

Pyrrhuloxia
Fusionsdf (3-17, 23:28)
Mikeymoo (Medic) (3-18, 05:48)
Teejing (3-18, 06:06)
LaXerCannon (3-18, 07:30)
Malongo (3-18, 08:40)
Motbob (3-18, 13:16)
Mandalor (3-19, 04:55)
Naib (3-19, 05:12)
Bumatlarge (3-19, 08:27)
Monoxide (3-19, 08:34)
BWdero (3-19, 08:39)
iLoveKTF (3-19, 10:13)
CompX (3-19, 10:52)

MrBabyHands
Ace (3-18, 10:02)
Ver (Vigilante) (3-19, 03:59)
Caller (3-19, 06:42)
Bockit (3-19, 07:19)
iNfuNdiBuLuM (Vigilante) (3-19, 09:03)
Versatile (Miller) (3-19, 13:37)
Nemy (3-19, 13:53)

Caller
Malongo (3-17, 17:01) (retracted 3-18, 08:40)

Nemy
Ace (3-17, 15:50) (Retracted 3-17, 16:15)

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Votes in order. Just a different view of the timings in how everything falls into place.

Qatol (Bodyguard) (3-17, 12:23) (for BC)
Fishball (Vigilante) (3-17, 12:51) (for BC)
Chaoser (3-17, 13:03) (for BC)
Jyvblamo (3-17, 13:28) (for BC)
Ace (3-17, 15:50) (for NMY) (Retracted 3-17, 16:15)
Malongo (3-17, 17:01) (for CALL) (Retracted 3-18, 08:40)
Ver (Vigilante) (3-17, 17:56) (for BC) (Retracted 3-19, 03:59)
Phrujbaz (3-17, 19:55) (for SOG)
Scaramanga (3-17, 22:44) (for BC)
Fusionsdf (3-17, 23:28) (for PYR)
0cz3c (3-18, 00:39) (for SOG)
Mista (3-18, 00:44) (for SOG)
Pika Chu (3-18, 01:18) (for SOG)
Pyrrhuloxia (3-18, 03:44) (for BC)
Mikeymoo (Medic) (3-18, 05:48) (for PYR)
Teejing (3-18, 06:06) (for PYR)
LaXerCannon (3-18, 07:30) (for PYR)
BWdero (3-18, 07:51) (for SOG) (Retracted 3-19, 08:39)
Zeks (3-18, 08:28) (for BC)
Malongo (3-18, 08:40) (for PYR)
TruthBringer (3-18, 09:03) (for SOG)
Tricode (3-18, 09:41) (for BC)
Caller (3-18, 09:57) (for SOG) (Retracted 3-19, 06:42)
CynanMachae (3-18, 10:00) (for BC) (Retracted 3-18, 12:53)
Ace (3-18, 10:02) (for MBH)
3 Lions (3-18, 10:17) (for BC)
TranceStorm (3-18, 10:31) (for SOG)
Dreamflower (3-18, 12:32) (for SOG)
CynanMachae (3-18, 12:53) (for SOG)
Motbob (3-18, 13:16) (for PYR)
Ahswtini (3-19, 01:35) (for BC)
Ver (Vigilante) (3-19, 03:59) (for MBH)
Scooter (3-19, 04:25) (for BC)
ZaplinG (3-19, 04:28) (for SOG)
JeeJee (3-19, 04:44) (for SOG)
Mandalor (3-19, 04:55) (for PYR)
Naib (3-19, 05:12) (for PYR)
LucasWoJ (3-19, 05:33) (for SOG)
MasterOfChaos (3-19 06:08) (for BC)
Ra.Xor.2 (3-19, 06:29) (for BC)
Caller (3-19, 06:42) (for MBH)
LeperKhan (3-19, 07:08) (for BC)
Bockit (3-19, 07:19) (for MBH)
Bumatlarge (3-19, 08:27) (for PYR)
Monoxide (3-19, 08:34) (for PYR)
BWdero (3-19, 08:39) (for PYR)
iNfuNdiBuLuM (Vigilante) (3-19, 09:03) (for MBH)
Redtooth (3-19, 09:55) (for SOG)
iLoveKTF (3-19, 10:13) (for PYR)
CompX (3-19, 10:52) (for PYR)
Ydg (3-19, 11:17) (for SOG)
MrBabyHands (3-19, 11:25) (for SOG)
Versatile (Miller) (3-19, 13:37) (for MBH)
Nemy (3-19, 13:53) (for MBH)


I didn’t do timestamps for the other days because it was mostly agreed upon who the lynch targets would be for each day… leading to a vast majority of the voters all voting for the same person who has always turned up as mafia so far (and I plan for that trend to continue again today)

Day Two Voting

+ Show Spoiler +

(in order of placing votes)

Mandalor
MrBabyHands
Semioldguy (Detective)
Malongo
Rage
Pyrrhuloxia
Rice
Bockit
LucasWoJ
Redtooth
Dreamflower

Mikeymoo
(Medic)
Monoxide
Fusionsdf
Ahswtini
3 Lions
Aznvaliance
Ra.Xor.2
Chaoser
Tricode
Pika Chu

JeeJee
Zeks
BWdero
LaXerCannon
IcySoul
0cz3c
iNfuNdiBuLuM (Vigilante)
blue_arrow
JL13[/]green]
Motbob
iLoveKTF
Nemy
CynanMachae

Here on Day two Ahswtini was active during the time of my role claim and made several posts in the thread while not placing a vote until much later. By the time he placed his vote mandalor has already come forward to defend himself against MrBabyHands and was brutally defeated in what could only be described as a complete and utter ownage. It is only after this point that ahswtini votes his fellow mafia member out. He didn’t want to jump on too early in case his fellow mafia partner might have been somehow saved, but then didn’t want to jump on too late in an effort to try blending in.

Day Three Voting

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Scooter
Pyrrhuloxia
TruthBringer
JeeJee
aZnvaLiaNce
Fishball (Vigilante)
semioldguy (Detective)
CompX
motbob
Bockit
malongo
RaGe
dreamflower
Night[Mare
BWdero
BloodyC0bbler
Icysoul
blue_arrow
chaoser
0cz3c
ahswtini
Rice
fusionsdf
LucasWoJ
CynanMachae
3 Lions
LaXerCannon
redtooth
iLoveKTF
ydg
nemY
Naib
Ra.Xor.2

LeperKhan
BloodyC0bbler
blue_arrow
Pyrrhuloxia
chaoser
ahswtini
Rice
CynanMachae
3 Lions
LaXerCannon
iLoveKTF
ydg
Caller
malongo
Bockit
RaGe
Naib
Night[Mare
bumatlarge
BWdero
redtooth

Ra.Xor.2

Again he doesn’t hop on right away (Leperkahn was started much later in the day and bth votes were made simultaneously), despite certain confirmation. He waits until the middle again.

Day Four Voting

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Humbug
semioldguy (Detective)
chaoser
Rice
Icysoul
TruthBringer
Caller
[green]BWdero
Ra.Xor.2
BloodyC0bbler
LucasWoJ
Mista
Night[Mare
JeeJee
Pyrrhuloxia
nemY
fusionsdf
ahswtini
aZnvaLiaNce
Ace
LaXerCannon
Bockit
LucasWoJ
bumatlarge
RaGe
ydg
Monoxide
Naib
blue_arrow
MasterOfChaos
3 Lions
TranceStorm
CynanMachae

He is voting by the same pattern again.
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semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
April 02 2009 03:14 GMT
#1605
Also in going through the thread I realize that Ahswtini will likely not be able to defend himself as he is away on vacation or some such until this weekend. He'll be pleasantly surprised at how well the town is doing upon his return :p
Moderator
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-02 03:34:00
April 02 2009 03:28 GMT
#1606
edit: wrong thread
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
April 02 2009 03:30 GMT
#1607
@Pyrrhuloxia
Why am I looking at a game review?
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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
April 02 2009 03:35 GMT
#1608
On April 02 2009 12:30 semioldguy wrote:
@Pyrrhuloxia
Why am I looking at a game review?

Sorry, it was meant for my blog.
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
April 02 2009 05:03 GMT
#1609
Well I guess thats final vote count also...
♞
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
April 02 2009 05:08 GMT
#1610
[image loading]


RED LIGHT. MasterOfChaos. GREEN LIGHT. Ahswtini.
♞
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
April 02 2009 05:09 GMT
#1611
Fuck!!!
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aZnvaLiaNce
Profile Joined June 2007
United States942 Posts
April 02 2009 05:21 GMT
#1612
There's the Godfather.
Isnt that worth fighting for? Isnt that worth dying for? - Morpheus
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
April 02 2009 05:24 GMT
#1613
Yeah... well I knew that much already :p
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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
April 02 2009 05:34 GMT
#1614
Wow they are down to minimum kill power now.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
April 02 2009 05:56 GMT
#1615
Mafia give up?
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
April 02 2009 06:08 GMT
#1616
Never!!!

+ Show Spoiler +
I mean..uh... they shouldn't give up.

Never give up! Never surrender!
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Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
April 02 2009 06:13 GMT
#1617
oh damn... so much for our perfect game R.I.P ahswtini
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
April 02 2009 07:21 GMT
#1618
ahaha. no more perfect game for us. i knew i was right when i didnt change votes. anyway. good job still.
Woo Jung Ho
Mista
Profile Joined January 2009
Singapore1022 Posts
April 02 2009 07:31 GMT
#1619
Lol..Ahswtini was innocent afterall.SoG almost made me change my mind but lucky i didn't.
Time for some Revolution !
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
April 02 2009 12:13 GMT
#1620
On April 02 2009 12:14 semioldguy wrote:
Also in going through the thread I realize that Ahswtini will likely not be able to defend himself as he is away on vacation or some such until this weekend. He'll be pleasantly surprised at how well the town is doing upon his return :p

DIE

gg Mafia anyway
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
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