United we stand, divided we fall on our road to victory, we shall eradicate all, using our siege tanks, using our spires using our templars from the hearth of Aiur, Striking to your hearth with fire, all you can do is sit and admire The power of the sun will explode like siege Fire
Before we destroy your asses and then you shall retire in shame and people will remember our name,
On April 21 2013 23:39 fabiano wrote: As of now the situation is the following I guess:
Stealth Bunnies: guaranteed in the playoffs.
Sun Khan: guaranteed in the playoffs.
Courage: guaranteed in the playoffs if wins in week 7 and ACE, DeSPA and TAKK lose any of the following matches.
meSija: guaranteed in the playoffs if wins in week 7 and ACE, DeSPA and TAKK lose any of the following matches.
The All Kill Kings: needs to win week 8 and week 9, and hope mSj and/or Courage lose week 7, week 8 and week 9.
DeSPA: needs to win week 8 and hope mSj and/or Courage lose in week 7, 8 and 9.
Air Force Ace of Spades: needs to win week 8 and week 9, and hope mSj and/or Courage lose week 7, week 8 and week 9. Also needs DeSPA to lose week 8.
Phoenix: no chance to get to the playoffs.
SB lost to Sun Khan. I personally think that the new partnership with Samsung Khan is really benefitial to the team practicing with the likes of Stork has really had a great effect on our play (The smurfing helps to!)
On April 22 2013 00:59 pebble444 wrote: SUN KHAN WE DE PEOPLE
United we stand, divided we fall on our road to victory, we shall eradicate all, using our siege tanks, using our spires using our templars from the hearth of Aiur, Striking to your hearth with fire, all you can do is sit and admire The power of the sun will explode like siege Fire
Before we destroy your asses and then you shall retire in shame and people will remember our name,
On April 20 2013 23:10 Ilikestarcraft wrote: Hey, I'm cowboyspc94 on Courage. I know this isn't required but I think it should be the case for all requests for a pp. If you request for one you should give the reason for it. Your opponent has the right to know so they can decide whether they want to accept the pp or not. For me personally if my opponent suddenly requests for a pp without giving a reason it makes me rather reluctant to accept it especially in the case if I can't get in contact with him after by the time we're originally supposed to play. I normally wouldn't care as much but I'm a bit busy at least till the 29th because of school so I like to know ahead of time when to play so I can not only fit in some practice but other stuff too.
Oh and I pmed you my skype. I won't be on till tomorrow afternoon though.
Im irish and saturday is normally a night out. I though i was free up until sat morn when a friend text me hes getting married soon n his other mate organised surprise stag day it was all last minute. Thats why.
Aite can you pm me your skype so we can work out a time.
So what are we going to do with NW Power? Would we grant W/O to those that are going to play NW Power in the future weeks and leave the results in their past games as is? Or would we basically null out the games for every single team that played them, regardless of win/loss?
I feel like there's not gonna be any real fair way of dealing with this, especially to the teams that beat NW Power in past weeks... Just goes to show what a class act Sinedd is.
On April 22 2013 04:01 SynC[gm] wrote: So what are we going to do with NW Power? Would we grant W/O to those that are going to play NW Power in the future weeks and leave the results in their past games as is? Or would we basically null out the games for every single team that played them, regardless of win/loss?
I feel like there's not gonna be any real fair way of dealing with this, especially to the teams that beat NW Power in past weeks... Just goes to show what a class act Sinedd is.
I think the only fair way that would keep the format is to change all results to 5-0 wins over NW. Explanation:
1. The teams that have yet to play them will be receiving this score with no effort put in; it seems logical that the teams that actually went through the trouble of showing up, requesting and managing PPs, winning games, should get the same.
2. This would correct former grievances, such as Maciej's (and maybe Nagla's) questionable participation, which swung the results of at least 1 series in favor of NW. Another example is their taking W/O to win a series.
3. This would benefit both teams who beat and lost to NW, as no team has beaten them 5-0 so far. Perhaps not relative to one another, but it would be a universal shift upwards.
Of course administration has the final say, but a poll can never hurt:
Poll: NW Power?
Set ALL vs. NW matches to 5-0 (20)
80%
Give 5-0 W/O only to the teams yet to play them (4)
16%
Remove them and their games from league, change schedule (1)
4%
Other (please specify) (0)
0%
25 total votes
Your vote: NW Power?
(Vote): Set ALL vs. NW matches to 5-0 (Vote): Give 5-0 W/O only to the teams yet to play them (Vote): Remove them and their games from league, change schedule (Vote): Other (please specify)
EDIT: I want to point out three more things:
1. The biggest "winners" of the 5-0 to all vs. NW would be TAKK who lost 0-5 (+1 win, -1 loss, +5 games won, -5 games lost). The biggest "losers" would be Airforce Ace (+0 win, +0 loss, +2 games won, -2 games lost). I think this would make for some interesting playoff situations xD
2. Phoenix has already received a 5-0 win vs. NW, and DeSPA are slated to do the same.
3. The three remaining teams to get 5-0 are all in the top 4 at the moment (SB, Courage, mSj), by giving the 5-0 to them exclusively it would create what I see as an unfair void between them and the lower 4.
On April 22 2013 04:18 Jealous wrote: 3. The three remaining teams to get 5-0 are all in the top 4 at the moment (SB, Courage, mSj), by giving the 5-0 to them exclusively it would create what I see as an unfair void between them and the lower 4.
It kind of sucks for us since we were the ones who beat the team the big ones didn't :/
Here is my take:
1. Removing NW and rescheduling would be a pain in the ass but the fairest so I would vote for that, however I accidentally voted for ALL vs. NW matches 5-0 2. Giving 5:0 only to mSj and Courage is unfair for all teams in general, especially for ACE. 3. Giving 5:0 to everyone would be fair for everyone except ACE.
I don't think there is an easy way out of this... in the end ACE will always be punished for beating the wrong team.
The only fair way to do it is to give everyone 5-0 over them. It kinda sucks for ACE, since they actually did beat them, but its better to be slightly unfair to them, rather than be very unfair to everyone else.
Maybe we should put in some type of condition so that Ace will benefit from this in some way... Because all the teams will basically get a win added to their record, in case of a tiebreaker even after map win/loss, if Ace is part of the tiebreaker, because they beat NW Power, they hold the tiebreaker?
I dunno, I feel like Ace should be rewarded or at least not come out on the wrong end of this, because like I said, I feel like there's no absolute fair way of resolving this because of Sinedd's ignorance and the Polish players of NW Power wanting to win so badly, they were willing to break the rules.
On April 22 2013 05:11 Sentenal wrote: The only fair way to do it is to give everyone 5-0 over them. It kinda sucks for ACE, since they actually did beat them, but its better to be slightly unfair to them, rather than be very unfair to everyone else.
On April 22 2013 10:48 SynC[gm] wrote: Maybe we should put in some type of condition so that Ace will benefit from this in some way... Because all the teams will basically get a win added to their record, in case of a tiebreaker even after map win/loss, if Ace is part of the tiebreaker, because they beat NW Power, they hold the tiebreaker?
I dunno, I feel like Ace should be rewarded or at least not come out on the wrong end of this, because like I said, I feel like there's no absolute fair way of resolving this because of Sinedd's ignorance and the Polish players of NW Power wanting to win so badly, they were willing to break the rules.
You could annul all the NW matchups and just award ACE with a +1 to map wins.
On April 22 2013 10:48 SynC[gm] wrote: Maybe we should put in some type of condition so that Ace will benefit from this in some way... Because all the teams will basically get a win added to their record, in case of a tiebreaker even after map win/loss, if Ace is part of the tiebreaker, because they beat NW Power, they hold the tiebreaker?
I dunno, I feel like Ace should be rewarded or at least not come out on the wrong end of this, because like I said, I feel like there's no absolute fair way of resolving this because of Sinedd's ignorance and the Polish players of NW Power wanting to win so badly, they were willing to break the rules.
You could annul all the NW matchups and just award ACE with a +1 to map wins.
That's what I was actually proposing. Null out the games of those who played/will play NW Power, play out the rest of the schedule as if two teams have byes, and go on from there. That way, it won't really take away from those that beat NW Power, and won't reward as much as those who lost to NW Power rather than playing it out as if those who lost, beat NW Power 5-0.