|
On November 22 2011 00:07 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 23:59 Palmar wrote:On November 21 2011 23:51 Forumite wrote:On November 21 2011 23:25 Palmar wrote:On November 21 2011 23:09 Forumite wrote:
Palmar, your defence of prplhz around the sinani206 lynch is that he was uncomfortable defending a player he thought was Town? That´s still Anti-Town and something most Scum would do, so how is this a defence? It isn't a defense. I didn't defend him around the sinani206 case. As I stated, the post was written as I read through prplhz's posts. If I had stopped there I probably would've voted prplhz, because the two things that are really off on him, are what he did around the sinani206 lynch, and what he did to try to discredit me. I didn't stop reading, I went through, and in the end, despite that I think he's town. I have explained what I think about him, and in great detail how I came to that conclusion. I wasn't straight up defending him, because I only decided my conclusion right at the end of that post. So basically I caught his scummyness around the Day 1 lynch, but since he´s been very carefull in his posting and has managed to convince you to overlook the earlier misstep, even though there is no way to defend what he did. Yes. Why do you care? You're probably town too, and no matter how this goes down I'm going to look bad for it. You're not going to be swayed. Do you not want discussion? You asked for my thoughts, these are my thoughts. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm right. You are scum lol. Only mafia ever make that half assumption in an attempt to draw support from a player.
Happy birthday yeah.
And just to make you look a bit more stupid for not reading the thread, just jumping on something to try and paint me scum, here are some quotes I've written about forumite this game:
I have been pretty consistent in my belief forumite is town throughout the game.
|
Sorry! didn't see PMs! EDITING OUT
|
On November 22 2011 00:08 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 00:07 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On November 21 2011 23:59 Palmar wrote:On November 21 2011 23:51 Forumite wrote:On November 21 2011 23:25 Palmar wrote:On November 21 2011 23:09 Forumite wrote:
Palmar, your defence of prplhz around the sinani206 lynch is that he was uncomfortable defending a player he thought was Town? That´s still Anti-Town and something most Scum would do, so how is this a defence? It isn't a defense. I didn't defend him around the sinani206 case. As I stated, the post was written as I read through prplhz's posts. If I had stopped there I probably would've voted prplhz, because the two things that are really off on him, are what he did around the sinani206 lynch, and what he did to try to discredit me. I didn't stop reading, I went through, and in the end, despite that I think he's town. I have explained what I think about him, and in great detail how I came to that conclusion. I wasn't straight up defending him, because I only decided my conclusion right at the end of that post. So basically I caught his scummyness around the Day 1 lynch, but since he´s been very carefull in his posting and has managed to convince you to overlook the earlier misstep, even though there is no way to defend what he did. Yes. Why do you care? You're probably town too, and no matter how this goes down I'm going to look bad for it. You're not going to be swayed. Do you not want discussion? You asked for my thoughts, these are my thoughts. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm right. You are scum lol. Only mafia ever make that half assumption in an attempt to draw support from a player. Hi RoL. You're wrong, but that's okay, you're probably scum.
Alright, I concede. I was wrong to say all but I'd put money on it that you are most probably scum.
And thanks Kitaman.
|
Sorry! didn't see PMs! EDITING OUT
|
On November 21 2011 23:59 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 23:51 Forumite wrote:On November 21 2011 23:25 Palmar wrote:On November 21 2011 23:09 Forumite wrote:
Palmar, your defence of prplhz around the sinani206 lynch is that he was uncomfortable defending a player he thought was Town? That´s still Anti-Town and something most Scum would do, so how is this a defence? It isn't a defense. I didn't defend him around the sinani206 case. As I stated, the post was written as I read through prplhz's posts. If I had stopped there I probably would've voted prplhz, because the two things that are really off on him, are what he did around the sinani206 lynch, and what he did to try to discredit me. I didn't stop reading, I went through, and in the end, despite that I think he's town. I have explained what I think about him, and in great detail how I came to that conclusion. I wasn't straight up defending him, because I only decided my conclusion right at the end of that post. So basically I caught his scummyness around the Day 1 lynch, but since he´s been very carefull in his posting and has managed to convince you to overlook the earlier misstep, even though there is no way to defend what he did. Yes. Why do you care? You're probably town too, and no matter how this goes down I'm going to look bad for it. You're not going to be swayed. Do you not want discussion? You asked for my thoughts, these are my thoughts. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm right.
Just making things clear. It sounded in your post and the unvote like you had the perfect defence for prplhz, but in the end you didn´t touch on the issue that caused all this.
What I think is suspicious about you is your defence of prplhz, but that only makes you Scum if prplhz is Scum.
|
On November 22 2011 00:16 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 00:08 Palmar wrote:On November 22 2011 00:07 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On November 21 2011 23:59 Palmar wrote:On November 21 2011 23:51 Forumite wrote:On November 21 2011 23:25 Palmar wrote:On November 21 2011 23:09 Forumite wrote:
Palmar, your defence of prplhz around the sinani206 lynch is that he was uncomfortable defending a player he thought was Town? That´s still Anti-Town and something most Scum would do, so how is this a defence? It isn't a defense. I didn't defend him around the sinani206 case. As I stated, the post was written as I read through prplhz's posts. If I had stopped there I probably would've voted prplhz, because the two things that are really off on him, are what he did around the sinani206 lynch, and what he did to try to discredit me. I didn't stop reading, I went through, and in the end, despite that I think he's town. I have explained what I think about him, and in great detail how I came to that conclusion. I wasn't straight up defending him, because I only decided my conclusion right at the end of that post. So basically I caught his scummyness around the Day 1 lynch, but since he´s been very carefull in his posting and has managed to convince you to overlook the earlier misstep, even though there is no way to defend what he did. Yes. Why do you care? You're probably town too, and no matter how this goes down I'm going to look bad for it. You're not going to be swayed. Do you not want discussion? You asked for my thoughts, these are my thoughts. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm right. You are scum lol. Only mafia ever make that half assumption in an attempt to draw support from a player. Hi RoL. You're wrong, but that's okay, you're probably scum. Alright, I concede. I was wrong to say all but I'd put money on it that you are most probably scum. And thanks Kitaman.
It's not what people do, it's how they do it. 
|
On November 22 2011 00:17 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 23:59 Palmar wrote:On November 21 2011 23:51 Forumite wrote:On November 21 2011 23:25 Palmar wrote:On November 21 2011 23:09 Forumite wrote:
Palmar, your defence of prplhz around the sinani206 lynch is that he was uncomfortable defending a player he thought was Town? That´s still Anti-Town and something most Scum would do, so how is this a defence? It isn't a defense. I didn't defend him around the sinani206 case. As I stated, the post was written as I read through prplhz's posts. If I had stopped there I probably would've voted prplhz, because the two things that are really off on him, are what he did around the sinani206 lynch, and what he did to try to discredit me. I didn't stop reading, I went through, and in the end, despite that I think he's town. I have explained what I think about him, and in great detail how I came to that conclusion. I wasn't straight up defending him, because I only decided my conclusion right at the end of that post. So basically I caught his scummyness around the Day 1 lynch, but since he´s been very carefull in his posting and has managed to convince you to overlook the earlier misstep, even though there is no way to defend what he did. Yes. Why do you care? You're probably town too, and no matter how this goes down I'm going to look bad for it. You're not going to be swayed. Do you not want discussion? You asked for my thoughts, these are my thoughts. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm right. Just making things clear. It sounded in your post and the unvote like you had the perfect defence for prplhz, but in the end you didn´t touch on the issue that caused all this. What I think is suspicious about you is your defence of prplhz, but that only makes you Scum if prplhz is Scum.
That's wrong btw. But we won't have to worry about that until prplhz actually flips.
|
On November 22 2011 00:15 chaoser wrote:
while I'm still here:
##vote: prplhz
##vote: palmar
I don´t know if I should thank you for voting prplhz, or vote to get you lynched for voting without explanation... 
|
Chaoser you aren't in the game anymore
|
Sorry! didn't see PMs! EDITING OUT
|
|
|
I'd like wherebugsgo to weigh in on this. He had a correct read on me in PYP:I after interrogating me for a couple of posts, what do you feel about lynching me today? Also, DCLXVI how do you feel about lynching me?
|
On November 21 2011 19:07 Cyber_Cheese wrote:I was on the fence about this one. I still don't feel sure about voting him, and I feel like there are better options for today. ##Unvote: PrplhzI feel like Nisani is much in the same boat as him, with the difference that Prplhz seems to be able to express some form of transparency for things he does. Nisani has shown he is capable of making good posts + Show Spoiler +http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366¤tpage=75#1495 And yet most of his posts are one liners, and votes with minimal explaination, he seems to be deliberately holding information back from the town ##Vote: Nisani
What the fuck? Did you read my analysis on Palmar? You're just eating the bullshit that WBG and Palmar put out that you don't even read my posts because you just think I'm useless.
I'm not going to pressure WBG today because I'm considering the possibility that he's been misguided by Palmar, much like how jcarl and I misguided him in XLV. However he is not off the hook.
Everyone else should be focusing on killing him. He is evil scum and deserves to die.
##Unvote: wherebugsgo
|
On November 21 2011 22:09 risk.nuke wrote:+ Show Spoiler [Posted] +On November 21 2011 18:33 prplhz wrote:
risk.nuke
Since Tyrran's post somehow he became confirmed townie. I don't think he is confirmed townie, I think he is scum.
Ofcourse you do, now that I'm trying to get you lynched...Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 22:40 risk.nuke wrote:On November 16 2011 22:07 prplhz wrote:
You all realize that Palmar is just manipulating you, right? By giving town his reads, You're right lets kill him. Palmar can't manipulate squat unless you count that because he is sharing his reads and that makes him lean more to town. Because sharing reads is a town move which makes his candidates seem more scum. But this goes for everyone who shares his reads. You want to say that sharing your reads are deceitfull and manipulative. It seems like your point in that statement was to alert people not to follow palmar blindly. Which there was really no risk of happening. To me it looks like a way to make a subtile pro-town post and that's mafia maner. FoS prplhz I never said "kill him", You are putting words in my mouth to make me look worse. I think there was a risk of people trusting Palmar more than they should, there are a lot of new faces in this game and at the point I wasn't very sure of Palmar's alignment and I thought he was taking his "don't worry town, I'm immortal and I'm gonna find all scum for you, just wait" to an extreme. So I warned people. Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 02:33 risk.nuke wrote:On November 17 2011 01:37 chaoser wrote:On November 17 2011 01:34 wherebugsgo wrote:
Yeah, chaoser is scum. He called my vote OMGUS. He doesn't remember who he is voting for. Rofl. This is EXACTLY why people should be focusing on one or, at most, two targets.
Chaoser the difference between you and Coagulation is that you are not a lurker right now. You are scum. sure Wbg be mindfull so you don't accidently start tunneling. In this post he is very subtly defending chaoser by telling wherebugsgo not to focus on him. wherebugsgo's tunneling style can be very effective and even chaoser could easily fall to it. I have a slight scum read on chaoser so this makes me think that risk.nuke is more scum. Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 06:32 risk.nuke wrote:
Okey, but isn't this exacly one of those situations where we connected two people and should not lynch both of them incase they are town.
##Vote Kenpachi Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 06:47 risk.nuke wrote:On November 17 2011 06:34 GreYMisT wrote:On November 17 2011 06:32 risk.nuke wrote:
Okey, but isn't this exacly one of those situations where we connected two people and should not lynch both of them incase they are town.
##Vote Kenpachi perhaps, but why choose to lynch kenpachi over the guy who anti-voted him? If kenpachi is green, then lanaia probably isn't scum. If kenpachi is red we got a scumkill even if that doesn't necessarily mean lanaia is his buddy. If lanai is green that means nothing for kenpachis alignment. If lanai is red then kenpachi is scum. I think we learn more from knowing kenpachis alignment. Here risk.nuke votes for Kenpachi while following up with logic that makes his lynch seem like the better option of the two, lynching Kenpachi and lynching lanaia. The scenario he fails to mention is the best scenario, we don't lynch Kenpachi, day2 we will have more information on him and Kenpachi hasn't been scummy at all. He never actually says that Kenpachi is scummy, he just lynches Kenpachi because they are connected and according to his own logic, we hardly even get anything out of Kenpachi's death! Here he votes for bumatlarge because he made half a case on me. He said in his post that he didn't have time to make a full case on me, then he disappears for a while, I guess because he had to tend to some other business outside mafia. Again, this is a very brittle foundation for a vote. Also, if risk.nuke thinks that I'm scum, shouldn't he think that bumatlarge should at least be more townie for making a case on me? Or does he just care about a seemingly easy target? Again, he doesn't say that he actually thinks that bumatlarge is scum, it seems like his votes are mostly because he wants to vote for people. Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 22:28 risk.nuke wrote:These are the people I think need investigation. The people who voted for Kenpachi, Lanaia and Sinani Lemonwalrus, GreYMisT, Zephirdd, Drazerk,On November 17 2011 09:05 Nisani201 wrote:
OK EVERYONE HOLD THE PHONE!
Is Kenpachi dead, or can I unvote him? Nisani claims himelf not to want to lynch kenpachi anymore, but note he doesn't unvote and 3 minutes later... On November 17 2011 09:08 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On November 17 2011 08:58 Kenpachi wrote:On November 17 2011 08:49 Kenpachi wrote:
ill claim when we hit 12!1!11!!! now that i proved that you guys are indeed retards, i have no regrets. implies i have a role On November 17 2011 08:59 Kenpachi wrote:
didnt want to. im against claiming On November 15 2011 13:29 Kenpachi wrote:
real long day ok.
hi i am Kenpachi and i am a Townie
welcome to TL mafia to those who are just starting and i hope you have a good time here.
That is two lies in a game where we should be lynching all liars. ##Unvote: Coagulation##Vote: KenpachiTyping ## and : is a pain. ... Cybercheese nailes Kenpachis coffin. That's a scummy connection worth looking in to On another note. Town (that includes me) are playing like shit and it's going to stop now. The accused defends themselves with arguments like "you're idiots, fuck you". It's your own fucking fault for getting yourself lynched. Period.The only defense I've seen is from Lanaia who explains everything in his thoughtprocess and as result he did not get lynched, not even close. And that is exacly how every fucking one of you are going to defend yourself from now on. Copy? Then we have the accusers. I know it's easy when you feel like you have a gut feeling on someone, you want them lynched and suddenly you've just copied something just so you type a reason to vote. Enough of that lazy shit, sit down and really think why you feel like you feel. That way when asked about it later you can answer truthfully. or maybe you realised you don't actually want the person dead after all. The next person who quotes someone and votes I am going to slap. Because if townies are throwing around votes without explaining an acceptable thoughtprocess mafia can do the same and nobody can tell the difference. In short. Defend yourself by explaining your truthfull thoughtprocess. Accuse someone by explaining your truthfull thoughtprocess. Now read this out loud 3 times. Bolded parts, why does he feel the need to say that he is town too? Why does he say that if you get lynched, even as townie, that is always your own fault? It looks like he is trying to absolve himself of all flak that could come from him voting for townies, which is all he's done this game so far. In the second paragraph he attacks people for being dumb and half arsed, but isn't he half arsed himself? His votes so far have been half arsed and he never pushed for anything so far. Also he attacks Cyber_Cheese that I'm getting a slight townread from.
also Hands up everyone who thinks I'm not pushing for anyone...Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 07:46 risk.nuke wrote:Chaoser has been subject to lynching for a long time, I'm starting to belive he might be town, either way I don't want to lynch him today. Imo I have better candidates for today, wbg and prphlz. I'm almost convinced RoL is town because I find it less likely a scum player would loose interest. I've been unsure on DCLXVI and Lemonwalrus but really they fall into the category as lynchable people which is mostly all you've been going after palmar and right now I'm so incredibly suspicious at you. I'm scared shitless that your role might be a godfather. These last days I've been getting very suspicious against you palmar. And It's not just what you've done I find it very interesting that you've been getting along with wbg, Most importantly none of you have questioned or brought up any of the scummy things the other have done. Imo, if one of these guys are found out to be scum we lynch them both without hesitation unless they got a fucking amazing explaination and I mean amazing and I mean the truth and I want it fast, not a couple of hours for you to cook up something in which case I will assume you've worked out a lie.
My current scumteam.Prplhz
xsksc
Zepphird I'm convinced atleast 1 of these three is scum and potentially all three, my post. this is to odd to be ignored. However that is based on if prphlz is scum. If he flip town they go back to null-read
##Vote: wherebugsgo
Palmar I'm not going to vote for him due to his getting shot claim. I think we'll find out the truth of that later. In this post he defends chaoser by saying the he's starting to believe he might be town, then why did he not want wherebusgo to interrogate him yesterday? He goes on to say that RebirthOfLegend is almost confirmed town just because HiroRuby was replaced. A replacement says absolutely nothing about your alignment, he didn't just lose interest he actually went cold turkey with mafia and dropped the game. He also attacks wherebugsgo and Palmar, neither of whom are giving up on their attacks on chaoser, thus sowing mistrust in their judgment.
I was unsure yesterday but today I'm starting to think that chaoser might be scum, he has been attacked for not doing anything sensible ever since day1 and how does he defend himself? He martyrs and he attacks Palmar and wherebugsgo right back. This is no way to defend yourself.
Also risk.nuke is attacking xsksc whose filter I've been through without finding anything incriminating. As for Zepphird, i dno lole~.
Good lynch for today.
##Vote risk.nuke
Also, even though I'm getting less of a scum vibe from him than I'm getting from risk.nuke:
##Vote chaoser
I'd prefer if we only lynched one today and I'd prefer if that person was risk.nuke.
In conclusion this post is just a huge OMGuS-post. His arguments doesn't hold against a closer check which tells us he is trying to frame me. lynch him!!
Why is your reply mostly in green? Did you not feel townie enough?
|
EPWOP: the "him" in the last statement should be Palmar.
|
On November 22 2011 02:15 Nisani201 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 19:07 Cyber_Cheese wrote:I was on the fence about this one. I still don't feel sure about voting him, and I feel like there are better options for today. ##Unvote: PrplhzI feel like Nisani is much in the same boat as him, with the difference that Prplhz seems to be able to express some form of transparency for things he does. Nisani has shown he is capable of making good posts + Show Spoiler +http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366¤tpage=75#1495 And yet most of his posts are one liners, and votes with minimal explaination, he seems to be deliberately holding information back from the town ##Vote: Nisani What the fuck? Did you read my analysis on Palmar? You're just eating the bullshit that WBG and Palmar put out that you don't even read my posts because you just think I'm useless. I'm not going to pressure WBG today because I'm considering the possibility that he's been misguided by Palmar, much like how jcarl and I misguided him in XLV. However he is not off the hook. Everyone else should be focusing on killing him. He is evil scum and deserves to die. ##Unvote: wherebugsgo
Did you just intentionally ignore the logic in my post there or what?
That post, which I linked and specifically even pointed out, is your only relatively good one all game.
You and Chaoser are the Scum here.
|
I do not think you are mafia prplhz. Though I do think Palmar wants to see you flip town so he looks better.
##Vote Palmar
##Vote Nisani201
I would like to see both die tonight, but i highly doubt palmar will get lynched. I don't believe his claim of being protected, nor do I like the way he argues. His argument on chaoser was forced imo, and he tries too hard to lead the town.
I would write about nisani, but it would just be parroting wbg. Go read wbg's case on him, I agree with most of what he says in regards to nisani except the defending chaoser bit.
|
Ok i've read through the thread and this is what I have.
##Vote: prplhz
Risk.Nuke is completely pro-town and I'm keeping this vote on you until you've removed your vote.
|
Do chaoser's votes go to MrZentor now that he has been replaced?
Also, best wishes for chaoser!
|
Happy Birthday RoL,
Palmar, your reasoning includes too much wifom and too little facts. And considering your facts look like this "he doesn't lose sight of the end goal while he's being scrutinized. He has all the while through defending himself kept calling people out for bullshit and attempted to create cases." I guess it's each mans opinion but that doesn't ring true in my ears.
On November 21 2011 23:25 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 23:09 Forumite wrote:
Palmar, your defence of prplhz around the sinani206 lynch is that he was uncomfortable defending a player he thought was Town? That´s still Anti-Town and something most Scum would do, so how is this a defence? It isn't a defense. I didn't defend him around the sinani206 case. As I stated, the post was written as I read through prplhz's posts. If I had stopped there I probably would've voted prplhz, because the two things that are really off on him, are what he did around the sinani206 lynch, and what he did to try to discredit me. I didn't stop reading, I went through, and in the end, despite that I think he's town. I have explained what I think about him, and in great detail how I came to that conclusion. I wasn't straight up defending him, because I only decided my conclusion right at the end of that post. Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 23:11 Forumite wrote:On November 21 2011 22:29 Palmar wrote:
So yeah, for transparency and people just looking for the verdict (though I would argue that reading the entire thought process is extremely helpful) I'm going to (despite never having voted him)
##Unvote: prplhz That´s not transparency, that´s you trying to trick people into thinking the wagon on prplhz just stopped. If you want transparency, post that you think prplhz is Town with big green letters. Oh no, you saw through my masterplan, I was so sure I would trick people with that! Are you 4real bro? Anyway, if people don't agree with me... just lynch him. I'm not gonna support it because I think he is town.
I really don't like the fact that you're saying go ahead and vote for him but I won't. What is that?
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
