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Consider the way bugs set himself up to vote me. Why in the world would bugs require additional information to tell us who he thought was scummier?
On January 21 2013 05:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
This is actually kind of confusing. If I'm wrong about some of my town reads, it makes Lazer the better lynch by far. Everyone has called both players scum but no one is really willing to defend either of them. On meta they both look bad. They're both easily lynched, though Hopeless seems to be resisting the lynch far more.
Lol there's pros and cons to lynching them both.
Convince me to vote. Most swaying arguments for either side will get my vote. I'll be around till deadline.
What the fuck is this? When I flip town, you bastards remember this shit and hold him accountable, especially when Lazer flips scum, and for the love of god, can you please kill him already?
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For justice
## unvote
## vote lazer
I thought hopeless was quitting and I dont think he would do that as town.
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On January 21 2013 08:03 Xatalos wrote:
Scumreads are more useful than townreads, but townreads are more useful than no reads at all. Surely you could understand this if you were town.
ORLY? It sure doesn't seem that way. SS had me as town, see his last list post:
+ Show Spoiler +On January 15 2013 01:10 supersoft wrote:
scumlist scumminess from bottom to top. The higher the townier:
supersoft
thrawn2112
- refused to say he's town
"yes, i wonder this as well" lol. yeah sure. i dont buy it.
"it'd be fun to be a scumteam again, skyping was more fun than posting in the real thread in that game" - pointless -
"no/yes of course, duh"
-votes sloosh
good case on sloosh. +
catches wbgs bad case +
keeps up agressive scumhunting. +
Hapahauli
spammer townie ++
still annoys me with his pointless question about that possible scumslip of zentor. GOTTA READ MORE OF THIS GUY, FLYING UNDER MY RADAR
Hopeless1der §
I am town. + excuse -
First, I'm no longer convinced of my scumread, but here's my explanation for my reasoning +
SS should not have been able to retroactively apply Prom's post to wbg's "scum"read. - that doesnt matter at all, i wanted to give my current thoughts, and not something old. Good catch doesnt mean wbg catched him, it means in general a good catch right now in this particualr moment and not in the past. i didnt want to honor wbg here.
Is also drastically out of place because he's half buddying sloosh while calling him scum and also, Sloosh has never exhibited suspicion towards Zentor, showing SS is not reading the thread. complete meaningless. I just wanted something to talk about with sloosh. My vote never is graved in stone.
= votes me for terrible reasons
okay case against lazer +
MrZentor
"Super, Jay is town. -.-" scumslip ?
is the older cousin. defend is naturally - how does he know he's town, is still the question
says he can read jay because of one post of his --
wrong thought about what scum does and what not.
confuses kush and jay even though jay is his cousin?
makes good jokes and sees that wbg is strange ++
Xatalos
understands me +
actively defending himself +
grush57
I am town. +
"How do you know?
scum with supersoft hmm?" ++
disappeared ----
jaybrundage
zentor says hes town +
Ruuch
newbie
missing -
wherebugsgo
talks to me -/+
decent list +
bad case
terrible scumreads, abandoned prom?! Why on earth
doesnt defend me, even though talks to me all the time.
defends me finally, cares to explain some things ++ as scum he should have lynched me. Probably too risky after zentor thrawn and hapa defended me?
_________________________________________ no lynch d1
i am really undecided yet. I dont like the X-case - really hard to place him in my list.
slOosh
calls my stuff BS, hides behind common opinions --
bad case on easy xatalos -
really bad reasoning accusing me ---
votes prom !!!
reasonable second appearance ++
_________________________________________ no lynch d1
Promethelax §§
pointless questions, didnt read --
terrible case on me, defending his scumbuddy sloosh
case contains one quote of myself. extremely fake or extremely terrible.
Either stupid as shit or scum.
Ay did get his facts about me straight. Actually really read my meta ++
Votes Lazer
Kushm4sta now Lazermonkey §§§
pissed because the host said he'd modkill him if he goes retard. ++
buddys me -
funny guy though +
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after the replacement absolutely ridiculous case against me ------------
He was also wrong about me last game. completely different playstyle compared to his townstyle.
useless vote on Jay for bad reasons, i share hopeless opinion here.
## unvote
right now i am really undecided. just wanted to leave you my updated list here. I won't be able to check the thread for a couple of hours
Prom had me as annoying and trolly but consistent with my town meta
+ Show Spoiler +On January 15 2013 06:15 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2013 05:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
yo hapa, can you give me a list of past games of yours I can read?
Also I just noticed you went to school in MI :p cool, I'm a MI native haha. He was scum in LC and Mario mini. Town recently in WC and British. Thrawn. I came into the thread late because of work, I posted a bad post because I felt I had to post and get into the thread. It was dumb. I don't think I am a victim. I didn't want to push the SS wagon hard anymore as I had a scummier scum read, I knew that the wagon would fall apart without me (have you ever seen Hopeless push a wagon well? Or scum Lazer?). I seriously don't understand people who sheep me. Which is why I questioned it. Last game I had you down as somewhat scummy and you kept not presenting the reasons for my play being 'anti-town' this game you just called be scum but without evidence. I can't refute you calling me scum. Now that you have some reasons I can refute those. They are wrong. My first post was bad but nothing I have done is scummy. I changed my mind on SS and Xat because I looked them over more. Sorry. I'm out for the night for real for real this time. I'm going to read dump since you guys might lynch me and I'd like to be somewhat useful to town before I go. Town: SloOsh: early interactions with Bugs and the casual tones in This post Hopeless: too trolly early on for scum hopeless, I don't like his play but it seems consistent with his town play. Grush: STARSENSES Do not lynch yet: Thrawn I had him down as town earlier, he was trying to figure things out. This shitty case on me needs to be looked at again though. Hapa: not enough from Hapa yet for me to call him scum. My gut says scum but I don't have any reason to believe it. Null: MrZ and Jay (I really just ignore them until later) Bugs (me no able to read him) Would lynch: Xat Ruuch SS Scum: LM
Thrawn was not willing to support my wagon:
On January 18 2013 07:26 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2013 07:11 Xatalos wrote:
But talking about Lazermonkey is pretty much off-topic right now. thrawn, why not Hopeless? few things about hopeless that make me not want to vote for him: his exchange with hapa about why either of them voted for ruuch. hopeless was making much more sense, and actually made me more suspicious of hapa. hapa was the one who abandoned his scumread (prom) to vote for ruuch. hopeless was voting for ruuch because ruuch wasn't prom, who hopeless had made it clear he didn't want to get lynch. yet hapa is calling out hopeless for what reason? also the hopeless wagon was/is scummy as hell. first there was wbg+sloosh calling each other scum, then all the sudden there are 4 votes for hopeless including wbg and sloosh. there is no way I'm getting on that wagon.
Also, he seems to remember this being representative of my town play:
On January 18 2013 07:39 thrawn2112 wrote:
my memories of playing with town hopeless is that I yell at him a lot for not scumhunting.
imo LM is such obvious scum, idk how people aren't voting for him. Prom was lynched instead of Lazer (i'm not counting any votes that happened after ruuch's entrance) and LM had 2 confirmed town (sloosh and prom) voting for him. lets lynch LM please
But Hey, you want townreads, because you've made such superior use of them so far, right?
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Conspiracy theories - The retarded ramblings of a madman.
None of the following things are known, they are suspicions that I have.
Scum shot slOosh N1
slOosh shot SS N1
Town has a JK that was used on Hapa N1 and Xata N2
Scum do not have a roleblocker, possibly a Framer
bugs is scum, strongly believes slOsh is SK since he is still alive (remember, I think Hapa was jk'd), Day 2, pushes him hard while keeping me up as an alternative. Scum dont care who dies between me and sloosh, but killing sloosh probably looks better for him in the long run.
Of particular note:
On January 18 2013 09:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
So do you asshats understand why I put those two links?
I couldn't actually determine whether he was the SK or mafia, but I didn't want to speculate. My gut said he was SK but I simply argued that he was scum because it was simpler.
At least I know now I'm not shit at metaing people.
Let's kill Hopeless tomorrow.
slOosh was an ASSASSIN, not a Serial Killer. Completely different. Hell, slOosh handed us strongandbig on a fucking platter in LVII, despite having already caught Toad and being well on his way to his win-con, just for shits and giggles.
WBG takes credit for having this awesome read, when he in fact had it semi-confirmed from setup speculation.
Lazer is setting up to distance himself from bugs because he's likely to follow me to the grave quite swiftly. Force him to push bugs hard.
more for the Hapa/Lazer association, but this takes me back to kushm4sta -
On January 13 2013 12:34 kushm4sta wrote:
hapa you aren't acting townie. You are actively pushing logical falsehoods for some reason and I don't get why. A more spammy version of the dumb or scum conundrum.
I'm just pointing out how your logic is bad. ---->I was useless as scum, i'm useless right now, therefore I must be scum.
Bad reasoning.. one example of many in the thread so far.
@hapa are you saying stupid shit just because you like to talk a lot? why are you using bad logic?
When I ask him to elaborate:
On January 14 2013 04:02 kushm4sta wrote:
@hopeless I'm reluctant to call hapa scum actually, because I actually remember him playing in a very similar way as town in witchcraft.
He immediately gets forced out of the game for being...kush. When lazer flips scum, consider kush's role, however short, in the game as well.
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@Xata, you still want townreads? What are you going to do with them? How about scum reads? Are you going to use those? You haven't done fuckall with the plethora of information swimming in Prom, SS and Thrawn's filters. Why in the hell should I waste my time giving you more shit to ignore?
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On January 21 2013 08:34 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 08:03 Xatalos wrote:
Scumreads are more useful than townreads, but townreads are more useful than no reads at all. Surely you could understand this if you were town. ORLY? It sure doesn't seem that way. SS had me as town, see his last list post: + Show Spoiler +On January 15 2013 01:10 supersoft wrote:
scumlist scumminess from bottom to top. The higher the townier:
supersoft
thrawn2112
- refused to say he's town
"yes, i wonder this as well" lol. yeah sure. i dont buy it.
"it'd be fun to be a scumteam again, skyping was more fun than posting in the real thread in that game" - pointless -
"no/yes of course, duh"
-votes sloosh
good case on sloosh. +
catches wbgs bad case +
keeps up agressive scumhunting. +
Hapahauli
spammer townie ++
still annoys me with his pointless question about that possible scumslip of zentor. GOTTA READ MORE OF THIS GUY, FLYING UNDER MY RADAR
Hopeless1der §
I am town. + excuse -
First, I'm no longer convinced of my scumread, but here's my explanation for my reasoning +
SS should not have been able to retroactively apply Prom's post to wbg's "scum"read. - that doesnt matter at all, i wanted to give my current thoughts, and not something old. Good catch doesnt mean wbg catched him, it means in general a good catch right now in this particualr moment and not in the past. i didnt want to honor wbg here.
Is also drastically out of place because he's half buddying sloosh while calling him scum and also, Sloosh has never exhibited suspicion towards Zentor, showing SS is not reading the thread. complete meaningless. I just wanted something to talk about with sloosh. My vote never is graved in stone.
= votes me for terrible reasons
okay case against lazer +
MrZentor
"Super, Jay is town. -.-" scumslip ?
is the older cousin. defend is naturally - how does he know he's town, is still the question
says he can read jay because of one post of his --
wrong thought about what scum does and what not.
confuses kush and jay even though jay is his cousin?
makes good jokes and sees that wbg is strange ++
Xatalos
understands me +
actively defending himself +
grush57
I am town. +
"How do you know?
scum with supersoft hmm?" ++
disappeared ----
jaybrundage
zentor says hes town +
Ruuch
newbie
missing -
wherebugsgo
talks to me -/+
decent list +
bad case
terrible scumreads, abandoned prom?! Why on earth
doesnt defend me, even though talks to me all the time.
defends me finally, cares to explain some things ++ as scum he should have lynched me. Probably too risky after zentor thrawn and hapa defended me?
_________________________________________ no lynch d1
i am really undecided yet. I dont like the X-case - really hard to place him in my list.
slOosh
calls my stuff BS, hides behind common opinions --
bad case on easy xatalos -
really bad reasoning accusing me ---
votes prom !!!
reasonable second appearance ++
_________________________________________ no lynch d1
Promethelax §§
pointless questions, didnt read --
terrible case on me, defending his scumbuddy sloosh
case contains one quote of myself. extremely fake or extremely terrible.
Either stupid as shit or scum.
Ay did get his facts about me straight. Actually really read my meta ++
Votes Lazer
Kushm4sta now Lazermonkey §§§
pissed because the host said he'd modkill him if he goes retard. ++
buddys me -
funny guy though +
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after the replacement absolutely ridiculous case against me ------------
He was also wrong about me last game. completely different playstyle compared to his townstyle.
useless vote on Jay for bad reasons, i share hopeless opinion here.
## unvote
right now i am really undecided. just wanted to leave you my updated list here. I won't be able to check the thread for a couple of hours Prom had me as annoying and trolly but consistent with my town meta + Show Spoiler +On January 15 2013 06:15 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2013 05:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
yo hapa, can you give me a list of past games of yours I can read?
Also I just noticed you went to school in MI :p cool, I'm a MI native haha. He was scum in LC and Mario mini. Town recently in WC and British. Thrawn. I came into the thread late because of work, I posted a bad post because I felt I had to post and get into the thread. It was dumb. I don't think I am a victim. I didn't want to push the SS wagon hard anymore as I had a scummier scum read, I knew that the wagon would fall apart without me (have you ever seen Hopeless push a wagon well? Or scum Lazer?). I seriously don't understand people who sheep me. Which is why I questioned it. Last game I had you down as somewhat scummy and you kept not presenting the reasons for my play being 'anti-town' this game you just called be scum but without evidence. I can't refute you calling me scum. Now that you have some reasons I can refute those. They are wrong. My first post was bad but nothing I have done is scummy. I changed my mind on SS and Xat because I looked them over more. Sorry. I'm out for the night for real for real this time. I'm going to read dump since you guys might lynch me and I'd like to be somewhat useful to town before I go. Town: SloOsh: early interactions with Bugs and the casual tones in This post Hopeless: too trolly early on for scum hopeless, I don't like his play but it seems consistent with his town play. Grush: STARSENSES Do not lynch yet: Thrawn I had him down as town earlier, he was trying to figure things out. This shitty case on me needs to be looked at again though. Hapa: not enough from Hapa yet for me to call him scum. My gut says scum but I don't have any reason to believe it. Null: MrZ and Jay (I really just ignore them until later) Bugs (me no able to read him) Would lynch: Xat Ruuch SS Scum: LM Thrawn was not willing to support my wagon: Show nested quote +On January 18 2013 07:26 thrawn2112 wrote:On January 18 2013 07:11 Xatalos wrote:
But talking about Lazermonkey is pretty much off-topic right now. thrawn, why not Hopeless? few things about hopeless that make me not want to vote for him: his exchange with hapa about why either of them voted for ruuch. hopeless was making much more sense, and actually made me more suspicious of hapa. hapa was the one who abandoned his scumread (prom) to vote for ruuch. hopeless was voting for ruuch because ruuch wasn't prom, who hopeless had made it clear he didn't want to get lynch. yet hapa is calling out hopeless for what reason? also the hopeless wagon was/is scummy as hell. first there was wbg+sloosh calling each other scum, then all the sudden there are 4 votes for hopeless including wbg and sloosh. there is no way I'm getting on that wagon. Also, he seems to remember this being representative of my town play: Show nested quote +On January 18 2013 07:39 thrawn2112 wrote:
my memories of playing with town hopeless is that I yell at him a lot for not scumhunting.
imo LM is such obvious scum, idk how people aren't voting for him. Prom was lynched instead of Lazer (i'm not counting any votes that happened after ruuch's entrance) and LM had 2 confirmed town (sloosh and prom) voting for him. lets lynch LM please
But Hey, you want townreads, because you've made such superior use of them so far, right?
Scumreads and townreads of dead players are only a small part of the big picture. You should understand, as town, that they can't be the main driving force in lynches, but they can still be helpful. Why don't you just do something that's pretty much certainly helpful for town and at worst has a neutral outcome? Unless it might give away something about your teammates of course.
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Votecount:
Hopeless1der (5): Hapahauli, Xatalos, jaybrundage, Lazermonkey, wherebugsgo
Lazermonkey (3): Hopeless1der, MrZentor, iamperfection
Hapahauli (1): grush57
Currently, Hopeless1der is set to be lynched!
10 minutes remaining until deadline.
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LOL this guy, saying I caught slOosh because I am scum. What the actual fuck?
First of all, most of this latest stuff is WIFOMy and not really alignment indicative. Super had a townish read on you, cool story bro. He also had a scumread on Prom. You had a motherfucking "town read" on Prom and you didn't even bother defending him.
This effort seems townish, but it's too little, too late and simply serves to undermine a good lynch. Let's go through with it now, because I can almost guarantee that if Hopeless lives today we 're gonna have to go through this shit again.
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3 dead townies have effectively called me town, but here you are ready to lynch me. I say again, why the hell should I be bothered?
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Son of a bitch let me get on a comp lol
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Bugs, did you not read the conspiracy theory disclaimer?
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I think Hopeless is probebly town after those posts... But I will obviously not vote swap to myself.
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Lazer, then Hapa, then you'll probably need to solve the game yourselves, but I'm still saying bugs right now
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gg, gl. You're gonna need it at this rate. /obs
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+ Show Spoiler +Hopeless1der (5): Hapahauli, Xatalos, jaybrundage, Lazermonkey, wherebugsgo
Lazermonkey (3): Hopeless1der, MrZentor, iamperfection
Hapahauli (1): grush57
Hopeless1der has been lynched! nightpostz in a sec.
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Night 3![[image loading]](http://fionalikesfood.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/05-09-2010_desserts.jpg)
A Cheesecake corpse was picked up in a remote hallway.
Stabbed multiple times by plants, their bloom mockingly disfiguring it's dead body.
Thick caramel blood running down his deformed body, oozing an accusation to the initiators of this confectionary travesty.
A lone tear ran down Mr. Cheesecake's cheek upon seeing what became of his beloved dessert. "Who is responsible for this...?", he gasped. "The Pies?"
The Cheesecake speaker stepped forward nervously twiddling with his cherry.
"Uh. Noooooo. This one's on us. Thought he was a pie. Sorry 'bout that. hahahaaaaaa...."
Mr. Cheesecake looked at him with a gaze of eternal sadness.
"And those repulsive plants?"
"Yeah, so... Uh... We kinda tortured him. And stuff. Ya know..."
Mr. Cheesecake knew.
Hopeless1der, the Regular Cheesecake, has been lynched!
It is now Night 3. 24 hours to bring in your nightactions to both me and CC.
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