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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 21 2013 00:04 GMT
#1581
Writer@WriterYamato
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 21 2013 00:09 GMT
#1582
Sorry guys, I failed there. I was too stubborn and didn't go with my doubts.

Good news though is that, though we have to lynch correctly tomorrow, it's actually quite a bit easier now. We basically have a free lynch in grush IMO and Lazer is still quite likely to flip scum too.

Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 21 2013 00:10 GMT
#1583
Okay...... So that means I have to rethink reads a bit. I was already considering if Hapa could be scum and Hopeless town. That seems like a plausible explanation now. But that still leaves two. grush? Lazer? iamp? For sure this got harder.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 21 2013 00:10 GMT
#1584
On January 21 2013 09:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
Sorry guys, I failed there. I was too stubborn and didn't go with my doubts.

Good news though is that, though we have to lynch correctly tomorrow, it's actually quite a bit easier now. We basically have a free lynch in grush IMO and Lazer is still quite likely to flip scum too.

Bugs, explain how grush is scum?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 21 2013 00:11 GMT
#1585
On January 21 2013 09:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
Sorry guys, I failed there. I was too stubborn and didn't go with my doubts.

Good news though is that, though we have to lynch correctly tomorrow, it's actually quite a bit easier now. We basically have a free lynch in grush IMO and Lazer is still quite likely to flip scum too.



Do you mean grush is 100% Mafia or what?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 21 2013 00:17 GMT
#1586
Wish i could of been here earlier. My internet is hopefully gonna get installed this Tuesday. So given Hopeless flipping town. I am gonna have to do some rereading. This feels like my last game we kept missing scum till LYLO, its so stressful .

Given Hopeless's flip everyone should go back and reread. Try to not have any confirmation bais. Look at other flips and what they said. We need a scum to hang tomorrow guys.

And if we could post more and have more of a thread conversation that would be great. I know its kind of hypocritical to say that but i would contribute more if i could. About the middle of the day coming up i should get the internet installed. I just gotta get someone to be at my house for me cause ill be working when they come.

What are you guys thoughts on Hapa, LM and Grush,

Also Xatalos i want to hear your scum reads.



The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 21 2013 00:18 GMT
#1587
yeah, pretty much. I don't see how he can be town in this situation. He chose to be on the "correct" side of the lynch by not voting Hopeless almost at the last minute. He had very convenient doubts at convenient times.

I'm not convinced Hapa is scum just based on Hopeless flipping town. Townies tunnel each other all the time. I'll reevaluate him but his arguments have been good and he has noticed things I would not expect scum to notice, so I doubt my read will change.

Zentor is 100% town unless someone decided to do something incredibly retarded, and iamp is pretty clearly town I think. That leaves grush and the non-Hapa Hopeless voters. I am town, that leaves you two and jay.

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 21 2013 00:19 GMT
#1588
also that was an incredibly convenient time for jay to come back, lol.

Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 21 2013 00:22 GMT
#1589
I'm going to bed now. Will reevaluate tomorrow.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 21 2013 00:23 GMT
#1590
On January 21 2013 09:19 wherebugsgo wrote:
also that was an incredibly convenient time for jay to come back, lol.


? I said that I would try to get back in time for the lynch. I was catching up on pages. Why is it convenient?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 21 2013 00:25 GMT
#1591
I think I'm going to sleep now and think about the best lynch tomorrow. Btw WBG, I can see your points about grush, but why is iamperfection town and why is Hapa so townish to you?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 21 2013 00:37 GMT
#1592
iamp is more of a gut and feeling read, maybe even auto-read, but Hapa has said stuff like this:

On January 13 2013 10:13 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 10:06 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 13 2013 10:01 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Jay

Please answer my question. Why are you pushing Kush out of one side of your mouth, then proposing a Sloosh RNG lynch out of the other? It reads a lot like you don't give a shit about who dies.


hapa are you serious? I don't see anything fruitful coming from that line of questioning regardless of jay's alignment and/or regardless of why he's suggesting a random vote. his eventual answer in any scenario where he's town/scum is the same, that he's doing it to create discussion. wth are you trying to figure out?


Of course I'm serious - there's something illogical and scummy about his play and I'm going to get answers for it whether you like it or not.

As for the bolded point, that's an incredibly short-sighted views on things. There are many many ways he can respond to my question in terms of activity, tone, frequency, etc. I'm interested in much more than the answer itself.


On January 17 2013 03:48 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 03:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
well, let's talk about it.

You seem to be "not convinced" that slOosh is scum. Then, we are looking at TWO additional scum, not just one. So, who? I don't want to lynch Hopeless just to have him flip town and then have to start all over again like we had to do today. Chances are strong that if we don't talk now about these types of possibilities we won't be able to later.

ignoring Zentor's activity, what makes him town? What's your opinion on grush? Lazer?


If I had to pick two right now, I'd say SloOsh/Grush

I have reasons to think everyone else is town.
Iamperfection is being active and open, which is indicative of his town-play (especially this early after replacing in). Whether or not he sustains this activity will be how I ultimately read him, but so far he's being townie.
Jay is also more active than I'd expect from his scum-play.
MrZ is also being active and open. The things that people find "scummy" about him (early town reads, lack of pushing reads) are completely normal for his town-play. It's the attention-grabbing in the early-game that really makes me think he's town. The early town-reads, him drawing attention to himself through his activity... these aren't things that scum MrZ does.
Xata is gunning for you WBG, and I find that horrendously brave for a scum to do. Especially for him.
Lazer was pushed by Hopeless for most of the game. Outside his "slip" or whatever, I can't find any reasons that he's scum.
Thrawn's early game voting and attention grabbing is indicative of his town play.

And you WBG have been one of the more active and concerned players in recent days.


that I do not see mafia making. Why would Hapa point out that you were attacking me, which makes you likelier to be town?

I'm not seeing it unless you are both scum together or something weird like that. If he is scum, he's played well, he's played very actively, and quite honestly I'd be hard pressed lynching someone like that when literally everyone else in the game looks worse than him.

Hell, just look at Zentor. He's confirmed town and if it weren't for the mason claim and his early day 1 play I'd probably be calling him scum too.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 21 2013 00:55 GMT
#1593
On January 21 2013 02:54 grush57 wrote:
I'll go for a lazermonkey lynch.

##Unvote
##Vote: lazermonkey

Also Mr. Zentor you are a confirmed town and you are doing absolute jack shit with it.

This post makes me lol a bit. Grush your calling out Zentor for not doing shit.. But what the hell have you done?

You might as well be a vote bot. All you do is vote and never contribute.

I mean FFS this is your scum hunting. You haven't done anything townie. All you do is lurk and vote. You dont push reads you dont help the town get a better read of you. All you have in your defense as town is Starseneses.... Which is ridiculous.
On January 19 2013 11:54 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 10:27 iamperfection wrote:
im pretty sure hapa isnt scum at this point. I thought there was a possibility of him being sk but with that eliminated i think it is likely that he is town.

## Vote hopeless


You can die hopeless you are making no sense because you are scum.


this guy is scum.
Also because hopeless is too...

##Vote: Hopeless1dr


Also you have a plan eh. Lets hear it. I would love to see this plan if it involves some content in your posts.

On January 20 2013 13:26 grush57 wrote:
Also I have a plan


The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 21 2013 00:59 GMT
#1594
Hapa given Hopeless's flips. What are you reads now? How do you plan to proceed.

Also Zentor this is it man LYLO. You are the only confirmed town we have I need you to step it up and give me your reads and thoughts. Given that your confirmed town you might die tonight. You should do your scum hunting now while you still can.
Given Hopeless's flip whats your reads atm. I wanna see that late game Zentor.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 21 2013 01:37 GMT
#1595
Is anyone here I am downloading some update so i can play portal 2 offline. Just got it yesterday :D.

And it would be great to talk to someone with the little time that i have.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 21 2013 01:49 GMT
#1596
Gah fuck me.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 21 2013 01:49 GMT
#1597
I'm around Jay, you still here?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 21 2013 01:51 GMT
#1598
Hapa whats your thoughts given Hopeless's flip? Do you plan to give all your reads in case your shot?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 21 2013 01:56 GMT
#1599
On January 21 2013 10:51 jaybrundage wrote:
Hapa whats your thoughts given Hopeless's flip? Do you plan to give all your reads in case your shot?


A lot of my reads were based around Hopeless flipping red, so I have some re-reading to do. Yes you can expect a read-dump towards the end of the day.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
January 21 2013 02:08 GMT
#1600
Your having a bad game hapa. Wrong about prom,rouch,and hopeless.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
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